Anyone else noticing that the canopy on the Chieftain is a bit weak? I took my hull tank FAS modules and slapped them on the Chieftain to try and get a good comparison and every scrap I get into the canopy gets blown out. I've boost rammed Cutters in my FAS and never had an issue with the canopy.
Chieftain Canopy: A Bit Thin?
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FDev said they wanted to do something about ramming. It may not just be the Chieftain. Ramming has been far, far too good for quite a while, with almost no consequences.
But perhaps it is just the Chieftain...
But perhaps it is just the Chieftain...
Yeah, the big bomber nose canopy, the weakness of all Lakon ships. Great for the view, not much else. When I heard Lakon wanted to make combat ships, I was thinking, "You sure, guys?"
I've had a similar experience with ships that have far forward-mounted cockpits. My DBS gets its canopy blown out about half of the time (I face my enemies like a man!) But my Cobra never had that problem.
If they want to do "something" about ramming then just make it a case of mutually assured destruction, like it would be for real. At the very least massive damage, internal module destruction, pilot G-LOC and power loss needing a reboot to fix. Intensity depending on relative combined velocity.
Making the canopies out of clingfilm is not a suitable replacement and I doubt they did that, but it wouldn't surprise me knowing them.
The only problem is combined velocity isn't the whole equation. One would need to account for momentum as well. Thus, if a Corvette rams a Sidewinder, it should be less of an impact, more of an annihilation.
Yeah, that's the downside of having so much of the front of the ship be canopy.
The FDS/FAS/FGS are pretty exposed as well, but they have less of their forward profile taken up by the canopy.
Where did they say that? Since they reduced collision damage by 3/5ths years ago, the concerns have been C&P related, not problem with ramming being able to do damage.
Ramming is only effective against CMDRs that don't know how to use vertical or lateral thrust and only because it's not damaging enough to make it something to avoid for the attacker.
The system already accounts for mass differences.
Closing velocity, angle of impact (and thus velocity transferred to the target), and relative ship mass, determines damage and the portion of damage each ship takes.
They've done exactly the opposite. Collision damage is much lower than it originally was.
Anyway, I highly doubt the Chieftain canopy is any weaker than the canopy on ships of similar class, just more exposed.
True, but consider the speed a sidewinder can reach compared to a cannon shell in this game (very similar in fact), the momentum of the sidewinder should be comparable to a whole volley of class 4 cannon rounds. Even a corvette shouldn't shrug that off like it were a fly on the windscreen.
Absolutely. As a great saying once said, "If you ever believe you're too small to make a difference, try going to sleep with a mosquito in the room." That is the Sidewinder. It's a bloody mozzy mate! Annoying as hell, but you only have to hit once...
Seems OK while the shields are up.
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