Cobra Gold Wireframe is a kick in the teeth for us early backers.

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Personal opinion: people should be kicked in the teeth occasionally to remind them what being kicked in the teeth feels like. Might cut down on the forum drama a bit. ;)

Happy x-mas! :p

Seriously. It's ship skin, dude.

Merry Christmas!

P.S. Frontier. Horizons pre-order here. If you want to give everyone access to the Cobra Mk IV, I'm down.

Good little ship - it got me through quite a bit of my early game.
 
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Seriously. It's ship skin, dude.

Merry Christmas!

P.S. Frontier. Horizons pre-order here. If you want to give everyone access to the Cobra Mk IV, I'm down.

Good little ship - it got me through quite a bit of my early game.

Spot-on on both counts. Also pre-ordered both ED and Horizons, and I'm cool with giving access to the Cobra Mk4 and Freagle to everyone too. I get enjoyment out of stuff I have, not out of stuff others don't have. Honestly, its way too ironic to post a 'I dont want others to even have someting that resembles what I have' OP on Christmas-eve...
 

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Spot-on on both counts. Also pre-ordered both ED and Horizons, and I'm cool with giving access to the Cobra Mk4 and Freagle to everyone too. I get enjoyment out of stuff I have, not out of stuff others don't have. Honestly, its way too ironic to post a 'I dont want others to even have someting that resembles what I have' OP on Christmas-eve...

lol - it really is...
 
I have access to the Cobra Mk. IV and don't use it. I don't care for it and personally wouldn't mind if others had access to it either.

However, I respect Frontier enough as a professional, honest, and competent company to assume that they won't offer it, and for that reason alone, I hope that they don't offer it.

Thankfully, it isn't like it provides any unfair advantage in the game or anything either, so it isn't something people are missing out on really to get along just fine in the game otherwise.

If they want to offer a Golden Model B or something like that though... ;) I mean, I still wouldn't use it, but hey. :p
 
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As someone who bought the original white wireframe paint for the Cobra, I disagree with the original post in this thread.

It is not a kick in the teeth for those of us who own the white wireframe - the white wireframe is better anyway because it was a throwback to the original wireframe ships from earlier versions of Elite. The gold version is nice, but it's not the white version.

Also, Frontier cannot put the white wireframe paintjob for the Cobra Mk.III back on sale, because...

It was marketed at the time specifically and exclusively as the 30th Anniversary Cobra Mk.III Wireframe Paint Job, and thus was priced at a very premium 10 UK pounds. The wording of the marketing for this at the time was very specific, and as its description suggests, was put on sale for the 30th anniversary since the first Elite game.

All the other Limited Time paintjobs were worded differently, which means they could be put back on sale at a later date. This specific one, cannot. I bought it in full knowledge of this fact, and this is the one paintjob which cannot be put back on sale - it is sacrosanct.

I'm pleased for others though who can buy a version of it in a different colour - I actually like the black and gold combination, those two always go well together.

Even if this year's paint jobs were, in my opinion, "low effort".

Perhaps 2018 will see us start to see paint jobs which take a bit more effort than just getting a can of Airfix metallic silver and spewing that all over a ship, or taking something like the white wireframe paint jobs and selecting Gold from a menu. :rolleyes:
 
Some people need reminding that Scrooge is not someone to be emulated. The galaxy will be a much better place when the entire concept of "I got mine, the rest of you can sweary-noise off" is utterly banished and forgotten. Wanting something for it's exclusivity, especially when the scarcity is artificial, is selfish and despicable -at best. peace, prosperity, lots of everything nice for EVERYBODY, this holiday on!
 
I'm not a fan of any of the wireframe paintjobs, but that's OK. I like that FD (1) only sells cosmetics in the store and (2) they are keeping their word. The white wireframe paintjob is still exclusive.

Personally, I'd rather they drop the exclusivity and limited time offers and sell all the paintjobs all the time. However, if they say that it's exclusive, they should honor that promise.
 
Theres a lot of early backers who have grievances.. That includes myself, I am still waiting for Braben to honour what I paid for.. The familiars will no doubt remind me how I'm entitled. Funny how unreasonable its become to only receive what one paid for.

The skin is the least of the problem, its the [money] thats seems to be the over riding factor. I guess rich people like to be richer.. And a certain CEO just pulled out tens of millions, but hey the game has limited resources..

In b4 the apologists get a grip on the thread..

Doom! Doooooooooom!
 
Spot-on on both counts. Also pre-ordered both ED and Horizons, and I'm cool with giving access to the Cobra Mk4 and Freagle to everyone too. I get enjoyment out of stuff I have, not out of stuff others don't have. Honestly, its way too ironic to post a 'I dont want others to even have someting that resembles what I have' OP on Christmas-eve...

For me, it's not about what I have and others don't .. it's about integrity and being true to one's word; if Frontier release the CM4, they not only render Braben's thank you to us meaningless, but because he said the CM4 would be exclusive, forever, they'd be making a liar out of him as well.

Delayed releases, and bug-ridden content I can deal with, I'm a developer I'm used to it.. but lying? That's a naughty list entry in my book.

Like the hat. :D
 
For me, it's not about what I have and others don't .. it's about integrity and being true to one's word; if Frontier release the CM4, they not only render Braben's thank you to us meaningless, but because he said the CM4 would be exclusive, forever, they'd be making a liar out of him as well.

Delayed releases, and bug-ridden content I can deal with, I'm a developer I'm used to it.. but lying? That's a naughty list entry in my book.


Like the hat. :D

No obligation, but:

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Apart from the fact they are different, I am completely staggered that someone could possess such levels of entitlement. If I were the OP I'd ask to have this thread removed so patent an advert it is for an ugliness of character that unfortunately pervades this world.

"If I can exercise a right to prevent other people having things that I have, I'll do it!" Lovely Christmas sentiment, people should be ashamed. I am (to be human).
 
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I think they've thought it through pretty well. Firstly though, lets correct something, its not FD, its Braben, coz he is Frontier. He's doing very well to from what I understand which really wouldnt bother me but for the shady behavior over the years, the taking of money, and not delivering on his promises for the game.

Of course he appears happy, he has made a fortune out of us and his workforce. I know I know, I've no doubt been a naughty boy for expressing an opinion, let laughable claims of 'employee harassment' flow in...

[haha]


You should google Ian Bell (one of the original creators of elite) he does not paint a pretty picture concerning Mr Braben and elite.

But heck Merry Christmas everyone
 
For me, it's not about what I have and others don't .. it's about integrity and being true to one's word; if Frontier release the CM4, they not only render Braben's thank you to us meaningless, but because he said the CM4 would be exclusive, forever, they'd be making a liar out of him as well.
The intent was, if I recall, as a reward to players supporting the game / Horizons launching. So if they release it to PS4 players (only) would that be making them liars, or rewarding players supporting them on a new platform?

Also the gold wireframe does lack that certain classic look of the original, but it'll do: :D

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