Cobra Mk IV

Mephane

Mephane
Bieltan said:
Conversely, should there be absolutely zero benefit to those who are supporting the product from the get go, spending significantly more than the Johnny-Come-Latelys who will probably get the game at a knockdown price? Its the early adopters who, after all, keep things afloat. I'm playing devils advocate here btw, I totally understand the frustration with incentivization. However, this is in no way limited to gaming, its a very rife practise anywhere things are sold. And where the 'incentive' in question is a decidedly average ship (sorry Alicorn plz no hate meh) in a tier that is very quickly passed by newer players, I dont see the big whoop to be honest.

As I said, I am not without sympathy to your side, so please keep any retorts/rebuttals polite. Its an interesting subject to me :)
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The benefit of buying earlier is, of course, being able to play earlier.

Also, I am absolutely fine with things like beta access or some small cosmetic thing like a bobblehead as a preorder/early purchase bonus. The black paintjobs were already a grey area in my view - because black is widely desired and they are the only true pitch black paintjob option. I hope here that every season will renew this, with black paintjobs for all ships existing at that point in time; so if you buy season 3 before date X, you get the black paintjobs for all ships added in all prior seasons, too, including the ones from the season 2 offer.
 

JeffRyan

JeffRyan
Mephane said:
why is it game developers/publishers only ever live in the now and never think of people who buy their game in 5 years
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They must think of the now, because unless the now goes well, there is no game in 5 years. I'm sure Frontier ARE considering the future, that's why the exclusive ship is so... mid-range.
 
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Mephane

Mephane
JeffRyan said:
They must think of the now, because unless the now goes well, there is no game in 5 years. I'm sure Frontier ARE considering the future, that's why the exclusive ship is so... mid-range.
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Things would be very dire already if the future of the game hinged on whether they can squeeze a few extra sales of the expansion pack out of people who are on the fence and might just buy immediately because of the time-limited MK IV deal.
 

Zac Antonaci

Head of Communications
Frontier
Mephane said:
Things would be very dire already if the future of the game hinged on whether they can squeeze a few extra sales of the expansion pack out of people who are on the fence and might just buy immediately because of the time-limited MK IV deal.
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Hey Mephane,

I understand the statement you're making and the feedback is valued. However, to be clear, if we didn't make this available for Xbox players it would have then become unfair to them (as they couldn't have purchased at that time).

Ultimately this should be a positive thing, for the Xbox Community answering the questions they have been asking about the Cobra MK IV but instead seems to be slipping into a debate about the finer points of shorter term promotional offers.
 

CliveW

CliveW
Just brought Horizons and should be downloaded to my XB1 for when I get home from work, then I will be going and trying out the Mk IV Cobra, I tend to get bored with ships and keep chopping and changing them, perhaps the Mk IV might change that ?
 

NMS

NMS
Mephane said:
You mean the same limitation. I understand this is not your decision so I am trying not to shoot the messenger, and while it is great (but not unexpected) to hear that XB1 player will also be able to get a MK IV, the tactic is still the same, and still as immoral. Imagine if a game like WoW would lock an entire character class behind buying a specific expansion before a deadline. The backlash would be enormous. But somehow doing the same to a ship in ED (let's face it: a ship is the closest equivalent to a character class) is fine?

The only reason there hasn't been a bigger outcry about this is that the MK IV is not an unmitigated upgrade, and is technically superceded by the Python anyway (unlike the MK III, which remains extremely useful due to its speed). If the MKIV were a top tier ship, the threads would alternate between "nerf MK IV", "MK IV = P2W" and "Bought Horizons last week. Why u not let me buy MK IV?"

Last but not least: why is it game developers/publishers only ever live in the now and never think of people who buy their game in 5 years, only to find themselves presented with a list of stuff that they can never get because they arrived too late to the scene. Before anyone says "their fault for not coming earlier" - in 5 years that game may be the birthday present for the then - 12 year old who was only 7 in 2016 and had no chance whatsoever to know about this scheme and buy into it in order to not miss out on a game they may be interested when they are a bit older.

(Wow, I think this is the first time ever, like really ever, I made a "think of the children" argument, without initially intending to. :D)
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Excellent. Straight to the point.

And it's really sad to see this practice going on, for any justification.
 
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