Colossal announcement at Gamescom in two weeks' time

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Well we know they, in fact, want to keep building on the base game. But, when I buy games that aren't subscription based I wouldn't normally presume that the developers are dedicating 100+ people to adding more to whatever I bought at the time of purchase. Otherwise developers would be stuck perpetually adding to the title until they ran out of cash.

Or they would just start to sell off virtual assets and in-game gold/cash

 

[Roybe]

'zero tolerance for bugs'

 

[Patrick_68000]

My guess is it will be full damage models implemented on ships, to support salvage and loot drops.

Original idea, but not colossal and fundamental

 

[lysan]

When PL comes, it will sell for sure. I just hope that is will be done right as said by DB.

 

[Patrick_68000]

I just hope that is will be done right as said by DB.

No doubt about it

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

My guess is it will be full damage models implemented on ships, to support salvage and loot drops.

That's my third on top 5 list. Will be psyched if this happen.

 

[Space Fan]

Another galaxy; somewhere to play CQC.

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Btw, is it me or there's Twitch QA with Sandro and David planned on Tuesday, 3PM BST already?

 

[Hospel]

I hope this will be planetary landings, and this will be this !

A seemless landing on a full open planets with life on a video game it's one of my dreams.
A landing on planets without atmosphere is the first step for that.

Sorri if I have bad english, i am not english ^^

 

[Cody]

Fluffy? What sort of forum rank is Fluffy, Pecisk?

 

[Sandmann]

How many other retail price games have you bought where you expect the developer to deliver you more than the value proposition at the time of purchase? It is an odd attitude and unreasonable to expect Frontier to run a business that way. It's little wonder so few open world space games get off the ground

I bought witcher 3 and I don't expect anything more from it other than bug fixes... but this is because the game was actually finished before release. It wasn't kickstarted based on a bunch of promises, then released with only 1/3 of them met, then development resources expended on two new large features that hadn't previously been mentioned and which were largely unwanted.

Expectations in this case are a direct result of unmet promises.

 

[Sandmann]

Original idea, but not colossal and fundamental

Neither were PP nor CQC, but it didn't stop them hyping them to the max. I'm making pessimistic assumptions about this, so that I'll either be right or it'll be better than I expect. All done with being hopeful, that's a losing game.

 

[Armour]

Raspberry Pi 2 release. Calling it now.

 

[Poy]

I'm very afraid that they used colossal wrong, like people use amazing/awesome when talking about their instagram pictures...

 

[Philip Foster]

It has to be the first expansion, so as they've ruled out First Person, I'm thinking planetary landings with an intended release in December 2016.

I am am looking forward to planetary landings of course but if I can't get out of the ship and explore on foot I'd feel like I was missing something pretty important.

 

[Globusdiablo]

... But, when I buy games that aren't subscription based I wouldn't normally presume that the developers are dedicating 100+ people to adding more to whatever I bought at the time of purchase. Otherwise developers would be stuck perpetually adding to the title until they ran out of cash.

Conundrum indeed.

I bought witcher 3 and I don't expect anything more from it other than bug fixes... but this is because the game was actually finished before release. It wasn't kickstarted based on a bunch of promises, then released with only 1/3 of them met, then development resources expended on two new large features that hadn't previously been mentioned and which were largely unwanted.

Expectations in this case are a direct result of unmet promises.

And the answer. Well said. Emphasis mine.

 

[ZeeWolf]

I bought witcher 3 and I don't expect anything more from it other than bug fixes... but this is because the game was actually finished before release. It wasn't kickstarted based on a bunch of promises, then released with only 1/3 of them met, then development resources expended on two new large features that hadn't previously been mentioned and which were largely unwanted.

Expectations in this case are a direct result of unmet promises.

I think some people have mixed up "promises" with open design discussion.

It's easier to stand back from a game like the Witcher and say it's finished because the design corrals the player down a particular narrative with a far more finite number of things which need to be expanded and tested.

When you crowd-fund something you have to accept you are taking a risk and shouldn't be jumping to preconceptions about what the delivered product will be like.

Otherwise you should take the option to purchase the title on release day at which point there are reviews/documents available which indicate what has been delivered up to that point.

As a fourth game in the Elite series I don't feel that it's particularly incomplete, as an open world online space game I'd say it delivers more than most. I guess I just don't feel any developer will deliver what every person wants in one open world game in this genre in one release. Past games have demonstrated the difficulty. The expansions are part of the funding model that keeps this game going but the base game continues to get build along the way. If Frontier have no business plan beyond unit sales I can't see them making the game everyone wants.

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Sandmann, ED was kickstarted on very few promises as FD could deliver. They didn't even promise OR support, despite crowdfunding projects doing so left and right. What followed afterwards has never been promised. It has been hinted.