Combat Deadly to Elite with NPCs?
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Actually no NPCs can engineer like players can do with mats and engineering. High end NPCs just use the best that non-engineering can provide. Many players miss this going for the engineered weapons bypassing what the non-engineered weapons can actually do.
I may be wrong, but it's my understanding that only NPC kills count towards the combat rating. So anyone scanning you and awed by your Elite rating should already know it's not based on your level of PvP skill. And as we all probably know by now, killing NPCs, even Thargoid scouts, is just a joke compared to fighting live human players.
I got the percentage surprisingly quick up by doing delivery (both delivery & fetch) missions, fought those mission spawned enemies quite often. Mixed that with a few assasinations.
Scouts are fastest way and easy to kill. Grab some gimballed mcs, a bottle of scotch and have fun.
But while it took you longer developing a pilot it was probably a lot more fun...or very upsetting if they get killed. I may have to quit firing my pilots and take chance.
In real life I have three dogs that totally love me. I cannot go to the bathroom without an entourage. But I know that I will outlive them all so the best that I can do is give them a great life while they are here. Then I made their life complete.
Some players in ED probably has the same emotions developing a fighter pilot. Should they die in the game pet your dog or cat. If you don't have one get one. You'll be OK.
Regards
Does Bud Light work as well?
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Yes, that is the defining feature of CNBs, they are all high ranked ships. That's why I and a lot of others recommended it.
You'll see what I mean about gimbals, don't worry. I pvp at a decent level with fixed weapons, and most pve as well, but do I take them to a CNB? Nope, because that would be stupid.
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I think you missed his point. The crew steals half your rank not just the profits. Your progression from Deadly to Elite is half pace as a result. It will take you twice as long to get to Elite using the SLF.
Yes, that is the defining feature of CNBs, they are all high ranked ships. That's why I and a lot of others recommended it.
You'll see what I mean about gimbals, don't worry. I pvp at a decent level with fixed weapons, and most pve as well, but do I take them to a CNB? Nope, because that would be stupid.
You may be right knowing a lot more than me. I'll check it out. Thanks.
Well said, if I'd noticed that comment I would have said the same, it's one of my biggest issues with the game. When two pilots go out on CAP do they learn less because they're working as a team? I would guess they learn more! Grrr /fistshake
When you get your first elite diamondback scout, you'll curse, then you'll chuckle and think of me.
...When you get your first elite diamondback scout, you'll curse, then you'll chuckle and think of me.
I already own the DB Explorer. You will not like my comments. A great ship coming up the combat ranks with the Viper, Vulture and to the DB. They all fly the same. But they will miss out on the FAS and the Gunship preparing a player for heavier ships starting with the Python. But this is all combat related. If exploring is the conversation a DB Explorer is hard to beat less an engineered Asp X. Many all ready there in Colonia. Just my opinion.
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The DB Explorer has nothing to do with the DB scout, but we're talking about NPCs, not what you're flying. Trust me, the first ELITE Diamondback scout you face in a CNB will give you a good ol time, you'll remember this conversation.
I look forward to your feedback. The DB Explorer has nothing to do with the DB scout, but we're talking about NPCs, not what you're flying. Trust me, the first ELITE Diamondback scout you face in a CNB will give you a good ol time, you'll remember this conversation.
I look forward to that event. Seriously. The Elite ones Scout or otherwise in my REZ site seem to die quickly. But with a live pilot? I might be in trouble! Never underestimate your opponent NPC or live!
My combat rank is only Expert. I've been hitting up a CNB that I found. I sometimes see Expert or Master, but I only kill Deadly, or Elite. Still, the progress seems agonizingly slow.
I don't have the rank (or the money) for a vette or a cutter. I have an engineered anaconda and a chieftan that I switch between. Either ship is sufficient to kill the NPCs I encounter, but it's still so, so slow. I'm just trying to unlock Jamison so that I could get lightweight sensors for an exploration build, but it's taking forever!
They why do I keep getting warnings about "thermal attack" and "trajectory disruption"
I don't have the rank (or the money) for a vette or a cutter. I have an engineered anaconda and a chieftan that I switch between. Either ship is sufficient to kill the NPCs I encounter, but it's still so, so slow. I'm just trying to unlock Jamison so that I could get lightweight sensors for an exploration build, but it's taking forever!
They why do I keep getting warnings about "thermal attack" and "trajectory disruption"
It has been a while since I did the combat grind (pre-aliens). Back then, CNBs gave me the highest number of elite NPCs per hour. I used my Corvette, tagged everything in site and kept blowing them up until they were gone. Wait for the respawn, rinse, and repeat.
The NPCs encountered were mostly small and medium ships, which can make it a bit boring sometimes, but I managed to get it done.
Deadly and Elite NPCs can be engineered to some extent, but to what level I don't know. Wait until you encounter the little Cobra that just...won't...die.
^ This.
Don't bring an NPC slf. Bring an easy mode conda with turreted lasers, kill all little elite ships. Focus on cobras and smaller. Goes fast.
Thargoids are always counted as elite.
Combat experience just takes a long time, it will eventually happen.
Going to res sites or beacons might be easier but most of what you meet won't give full xp due to only elite ranked opponents giving credit at that stage.
Scouts aren't too hard. There will be hull damage regardless of shield strength. There will be corrosive damage, but you can scrub that off for free by getting back to a station or you can buy some decontamination limpets and remove it yourself. Alternatively you can burn yourself up to >200% and hope you don't kill a necessary module.
Right now, the safest ones are NHSS 4 and less? They contain 4 scouts. Usually not special kinds. The higher the threat the more chance for more scouts AND interceptors.
Regular weapons can hurt scouts, ax multicannon turreted work just about like normal turreted weapons and kill them much faster. Pick a target, start firing and they'll be gone quick.
I have had my shields peeled off completely in a large cloud of scouts but that was a higher NHSS threat that had inciters. Inciters scream and every scout in the zone fires a missile (at you). There were a lot of scouts. Not a typical situation.
Combat experience just takes a long time, it will eventually happen.
Going to res sites or beacons might be easier but most of what you meet won't give full xp due to only elite ranked opponents giving credit at that stage.
Scouts aren't too hard. There will be hull damage regardless of shield strength. There will be corrosive damage, but you can scrub that off for free by getting back to a station or you can buy some decontamination limpets and remove it yourself. Alternatively you can burn yourself up to >200% and hope you don't kill a necessary module.
Right now, the safest ones are NHSS 4 and less? They contain 4 scouts. Usually not special kinds. The higher the threat the more chance for more scouts AND interceptors.
Regular weapons can hurt scouts, ax multicannon turreted work just about like normal turreted weapons and kill them much faster. Pick a target, start firing and they'll be gone quick.
I have had my shields peeled off completely in a large cloud of scouts but that was a higher NHSS threat that had inciters. Inciters scream and every scout in the zone fires a missile (at you). There were a lot of scouts. Not a typical situation.
Because you're attacked with plasma and rail guns, not with engineered weapons.