Just out of curiosity - those of you who live in "firstworld" countries, do you ever experience "transaction server" or "matchmaking server" errors? If so, how often, roughly?
Combat Loggers... how many are there!!!! What kind of punishment do they receive and when?
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No clue, I'm in the UK (near FD in fact), which as far as internet connectivity for home users is concerned, is somewhere between 4th and 5th world. My mobile 3g connection is faster than my so called broadband (which is incidentally the best possible for where I live).
Well you will insist on living in the stix
Well I do admit that on a clear day, you can see the Styx from here.
Yes, because it's a problem at Frontier. Doesn't matter where you are.
Depends on what they do, sometimes you can play reliably for weeks, sometimes you get dozens of errors per hour, leaving you unable to play.
After much criticism, it seems that server issues have been toned down a bit.
That's no way to talk about Ed's shiny hair....
But, we i.e. the Mod team have had to do some cleaning up on the thread again.
Please remember to discuss the post not the poster and knock off the insults and baiting.
If not. the infractions will start to be handed out.
Play nice folks.
As a programmer, I shudder at the very thought of ideas like "disabling task manager" or "randomly renaming the .exe". These things may sound like clever ideas from the outside, but they are a) hell to implement and b) run counter to dozens of established best practices in the profession. The only good thing coming out of this would be the stuff to appear on The Daily WT Eff.
And yes, btw, any third party software that somehow manages to disable the task manager is absolutely, 100% malware. I don't think you can even do that without using techniques that would otherwise occur only in computer viruses (and thus it'd be likely that the game would be automatically flagged as a virus, and rightfully so).
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most games you character or wahtever stays when disconnected suddenly. All those great games dont have a playerbase crying that the power was disconnected or other weird excuses.
ofcourse after playing for years its bound to happen just when you are on a pvp fight , well bad luck then. its way better then cheating.
and tey have no solo mode either. you play multiplayer games with other human beings , having a very bad connection is very selfish to keep playing and causing lag or that you use it as excuse to alt f4 the moment your underwear is getting brown
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Not true. Most games you get disconnected and you are just gone.
Selfish to play if you don't have a first world internet connection? Ermmm ok buddy wharever you say.
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Yeah, the running man? Jesus pose? Everybody rubberbanding? Then you get the message player xy disconnected? And on a bad day the other guys disconnect as well, so the team is even more screwed.
You know THAT is annoying, because those games are team based.
And there is an objective - there is a "match". There is a winner determined. There are rules according to the mode played. There is team-balancing,
Lol, anything of that in ED? Not really comparable. CQC is a much better PvP experience than Open.
I have gigabit FTTH. few are worthy of sharing an instance with me.Not true. Most games you get disconnected and you are just gone.
Selfish to play if you don't have a first world internet connection? Ermmm ok buddy wharever you say.
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I have gigabit FTTH. few are worthy of sharing an instance with me.
obviously my lowly 100mbit FTTH connection does not compare.... <bows low and backs away while keeping one eye on the 100th monkey>
Where did you get this notion from? If you leave through the menu you'll take damage for 15 seconds. Damage that is visible to the other players. If you combat log you'll be invincible for some time until their client figures out it hasn't received a pong from you for some time, and all that time you'll take no damage, something that gets very obvious.
The only ones who can't tell a CL from a 'graceful' exit are the actual pirates asking you to drop cargo, since they don't shoot first and therefore have no visual clue as to what you're doing (and that's why I tend to report all the players logging off before we came to blows, I leave it to support to sort out the wheat from the chaff, it's obviously not too much work for them or they'd lobby the devs to add an actual indicator that somebody is using the menu exit to lessen the amount of reports).
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Yup. There doesn't actually seem to be much 'combat' involved in these so-called 'combat-logging' incidents, since the initiator seems to not want a fair fight (which should be easy enough to arrange with willing participants), and the other person involved doesn't want to fight at all. Actual in-game combat in any game worth participating in has clear objectives, and a clear distinction between allies and opponents. Without those, it is just playground stuff.
There are rules.
There is also etiquette.
Now it appears to me that there are definitely two perspectives to this.
On the one hand we have players who shamelessly admit that they interdict only soft targets that have absolutely no chance in the ensuing combat. These players are up in arms demanding that their victim be trapped to their inevitable fate - lobbying for high wake to suffer mass lock, on top of FSD cool down time and lobbying for legal game exit to be extended to unreasonable time lengths just so they can harvest the tears of their victims. Which is demonstrably lacking any etiquette whatsoever. Those players have engineered their own "invincibility God mode" by using a strong ship to prey on weaker ships. Effectively invincibility in any ensuing combat. Demanding that high wake is needed and demanding that exit timer be increased in these conditions is just the mark of an unreasonable bully.
On the other hand we have players who experience being effectively trapped into a no win situation by another player who has invincibility mode switched on.
One of these players may well be classified as a cheat. The other may well feel forced to CL as a direct consequence of that cheating.
Cheerz
Mark H
Edit - there is precious little PvP combat in E: D due to the simple fact that fans of PvP appear to not want a fair fight.
I would propose a new term: PvV combat. Player versus Victim.
There is also etiquette.
Now it appears to me that there are definitely two perspectives to this.
On the one hand we have players who shamelessly admit that they interdict only soft targets that have absolutely no chance in the ensuing combat. These players are up in arms demanding that their victim be trapped to their inevitable fate - lobbying for high wake to suffer mass lock, on top of FSD cool down time and lobbying for legal game exit to be extended to unreasonable time lengths just so they can harvest the tears of their victims. Which is demonstrably lacking any etiquette whatsoever. Those players have engineered their own "invincibility God mode" by using a strong ship to prey on weaker ships. Effectively invincibility in any ensuing combat. Demanding that high wake is needed and demanding that exit timer be increased in these conditions is just the mark of an unreasonable bully.
On the other hand we have players who experience being effectively trapped into a no win situation by another player who has invincibility mode switched on.
One of these players may well be classified as a cheat. The other may well feel forced to CL as a direct consequence of that cheating.
Cheerz
Mark H
Edit - there is precious little PvP combat in E: D due to the simple fact that fans of PvP appear to not want a fair fight.
I would propose a new term: PvV combat. Player versus Victim.
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I just stopped inviting them to dinner by eating solo. Maybe they'll change their behaviour when they get hungry. Or maybe not, it's their problem.
Very true. But honestly, most of them wouldn't care. Since they would eat each other.
Only a few of them would be complaining. So don't read too much into it.
As you said. Go eat solo. Most of them wouldn't care either way.
Doubt you guys will want to invite the cannibal to the party.
They would love to join you though.
Send an invite?
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