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Voz

Voz
Not a bug but a question - Why do some entries record against the "System" and others against the "StarSystem". Wouldn't it make sense to standardise?
 

jgm

jgm
Voz said:
Not a bug but a question - Why do some entries record against the "System" and others against the "StarSystem". Wouldn't it make sense to standardise?
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A key is a key, and any changes would have a knock-on effect on existing tools.
 

madbilly

M
hchalkley said:
We're getting close to the end of the beta schedule, so I do not expect any further changes to the player journal unless it is to fix a serious bug.
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Thanks for the update, I can see there's been lots of improvements for all play styles. I'm disappointed that we don't yet have the star luminosity class in the journal as part of the scan data, as requested in this thread a few times and also here, I really hope that this can be added in the next update, ideally before 2.4 since we don't know when that will be.
 

AnthorNet

AnthorNet
madbilly said:
Thanks for the update, I can see there's been lots of improvements for all play styles. I'm disappointed that we don't yet have the star luminosity class in the journal as part of the scan data, as requested in this thread a few times and also here, I really hope that this can be added in the next update, ideally before 2.4 since we don't know when that will be.
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Take a look at how the Belt are thrown, that needs to be fixed too!
 

jgm

jgm
Voz said:
Yep, including mine. But better to bite the bullet now than in a years time when making the changes gets harder.
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Why does the change need to be made though? Having StarSystem in one place and System in another has no impact on functionality, doesn't make parsing the journal appreciably more difficult, and is backed by details in the manual to avoid developer confusion. What benefit is there to doing this?
 

Voz

Voz
jgm said:
Why does the change need to be made though? Having StarSystem in one place and System in another has no impact on functionality, doesn't make parsing the journal appreciably more difficult, and is backed by details in the manual to avoid developer confusion. What benefit is there to doing this?
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I just like things to be neat and tidy :D
 

robbyp

robbyp
Voz said:
Not a bug but a question - Why do some entries record against the "System" and others against the "StarSystem". Wouldn't it make sense to standardise?
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Please don't do this.. code has been written to match the current behaviour. Please keep the events constant unless there is a bug.

Think of WIN32 API.. lots of inconsistencies, but you can't fix them now. It's out in the wild.
 
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Shemuev

Shemuev
For months I have been making a request that is being repeatedly ignored, what is the way for my request to be considered?
 

hchalkley

Senior Programmer
Frontier
I have had a report of some lines in the journal being incorrectly formatted: one entry runs on immediately after the end of another, without the newline separating the json records, causing a parsing failure.
I would like some more examples of this, as I can't currently work out how or why it's happening. If you have experienced this problem, please send me a private message.
 

Andargor

Andargor
hchalkley said:
I have had a report of some lines in the journal being incorrectly formatted: one entry runs on immediately after the end of another, without the newline separating the json records, causing a parsing failure.
I would like some more examples of this, as I can't currently work out how or why it's happening. If you have experienced this problem, please send me a private message.
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Hi Howard, hijacking your question slightly, but do you have any news about engineering mod stats not appearing in the journal? Since they were removed from the Companion API, there are no longer any automated ways of retrieving engineered module info. The bug report is here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/342408-Companion-API-stopped-having-Engineering-Data
 

hchalkley

Senior Programmer
Frontier
Hi Andagor, I am aware of that bug report. At present our priority is fixing critical issues such as any crashes, tha galaxy map gui problem, server performance spikes (which affect its ability to respond promptly, causing some disconnects) and a dozen or so other such issues. I have been able to convince production that any journal syntax bugs that might break 3rd party tools are also critical. (Note, Scanning an asteroid cluster may currently give a "RotationPeriod":inf value, as the double-precision number was bigger than FLT_MAX)
Adding further info to the journal will have to wait for a scheduled update, not an emergency patch.
It's likely to be easier and quicker to fix the engineering info in the companion api, as Webserver fixes don't need a game update, but it may still take a little time.
 

Andargor

Andargor
hchalkley said:
Hi Andagor, I am aware of that bug report. At present our priority is fixing critical issues such as any crashes, tha galaxy map gui problem, server performance spikes (which affect its ability to respond promptly, causing some disconnects) and a dozen or so other such issues. I have been able to convince production that any journal syntax bugs that might break 3rd party tools are also critical. (Note, Scanning an asteroid cluster may currently give a "RotationPeriod":inf value, as the double-precision number was bigger than FLT_MAX)
Adding further info to the journal will have to wait for a scheduled update, not an emergency patch.
It's likely to be easier and quicker to fix the engineering info in the companion api, as Webserver fixes don't need a game update, but it may still take a little time.
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Thanks for the response, I'll keep an eye out for bugs.
 

hchalkley

Senior Programmer
Frontier
Hi Shemuev, your request is on my todo list, but I have not yet determined how much of the info is easily available in the targeting code, and it needs approval from the design team to make sure it doesn't affect balance by exposing any info that's not normally in game gui. It's also affected by priorities. There's a good chance it will be in 2.4, maybe sooner.
 

madbilly

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Hi Howard,
Thanks for keeping us up to date and giving us the bigger picture, much appreciated.

I've requested that the star type and luminosity classification that is shown in the galaxy map be added to the journal API for star scans. Can you tell us if this is possible? Then tell us if it is likely to happen or not? I appreciate you get a lot of requests, I'd like to gauge my expectations.

I'll check my journals tomorrow for that bug you mentioned above.

Cheers :)
 
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