Confusion with Discovery and Full System Scanning

[Dr. Smith]

When I frame-shift into a system, and do the Discovery Scanner, sometimes it displays "System Scan Complete". In this case, if I were to throttle down and activate the Full System Scan, it shows 100% complete, as expected.

If the Discovery Scanner does NOT indicate "System Scan Complete", I throttle down and do the Full System Scan. Sometimes this shows 100% complete, meaning I wasted my time throttling down and scanning. Why doesn't the original Discovery Scanner say "System Scan Complete" in this case?

Sometimes while doing the Discovery Scanner, messages will pop up saying "Discovered LPS-133 2 A" or something, and this doesn't seem to relate to whether or not the FSS is 100% or not. Intuitively, I expect the presence of these messages to indicate that I will have non-100% FSS, and something more to scan there.

Any explanations for this? Or is this just buggy?

 

[Northpin]

If the Discovery Scanner does NOT indicate "System Scan Complete", I throttle down and do the Full System Scan. Sometimes this shows 100% complete, meaning I wasted my time throttling down and scanning. Why doesn't the original Discovery Scanner say "System Scan Complete" in this case?

Some systems come pre-discovered. Even if you never been there.

Sometimes while doing the Discovery Scanner, messages will pop up saying "Discovered LPS-133 2 A" or something, and this doesn't seem to relate to whether or not the FSS is 100% or not. Intuitively, I expect the presence of these messages to indicate that I will have non-100% FSS, and something more to scan there.

You will automatically discover a system body if you get closer than 50ls (i think it is 50ls, not sure tho).

So no, dont think you are describing a bug

 

[Dr. Smith]

Some systems come pre-discovered. Even if you never been there.

If the system is pre-discovered, it seems like "System Scan is complete" message is appropriate after doing the initial Discovery Scan. There is no reason to open the FSS if it is pre-discovered.

 

[Northpin]

"System scan is complete" comes up only after you discover all the bodies (asteroid belts do no count)
or
if by Honking, you discover all the undiscovered stellar bodies in that system (and the system has no planetary bodies)*

If the System has planetary bodies or if the system is already discovered, you do not get that message.

*Edit: clarification

 

[Midian Cabal]

When you enter a system, automatic scan is performed ranging 20-25 30 ls. If all objects in the system are within that range, you get the message "System scan is 100% complete".

When you honk, you perform a wider scan (around 40 ls) which establishes positions of objects in the system and scans all stellar objects.

 

[Factabulous]

Entering the system will id all the objects within a short range - if there is, say, a single star in the system then it will be within range (as you drop out at the star), so System Scan Complete

Entering the FSS and honking will id all the stars in the system (and find all the other bodies ready for scanning in the FSS). If the system only consists on stars and one was outside the initial scan range then you get System Scan Complete at this stage.

Simples - working as intended.

 

[Dr. Smith]

Thanks, that explains the confusion. That automatic scan message "System Scan Complete" is presented as I am doing a Discovery Scan, which is misleading.

Is there a recommended way to use the Discovery Scanner (honk) and FSS (throttle down and open the scanner map) so that I avoid sometimes seeing "100%" when I open the FSS? Or is it unavoidable that you will occasionally FSS unnecessarily.

 

[Northpin]

Check navigation panel, if you see Unexplored... you know what to do

 

[Factabulous]

Is there a recommended way to use the Discovery Scanner (honk) and FSS (throttle down and open the scanner map) so that I avoid sometimes seeing "100%" when I open the FSS? Or is it unavoidable that you will occasionally FSS unnecessarily.

In your case simply mutter "Oh the pain" a few times while thinking up another wacky plan - gotta stay in character

 

[Dr. Smith]

Never fear, Smith is here!

 

[Midian Cabal]

My routine when I enter a system:

1. Honk while scooping and aligning myself for the next jump.
2. When I'm aligned and ready to jump, I open the FSS and check if there's anything interesting (ELWs, water, amoniac or metallic objects).
3. If yes, I take some distance from the star and start scanning them.
4. If not, jump to the next system.

 

[Para Handy]

When you enter a system, automatic scan is performed ranging 20-25 ls. If all objects in the system are within that range, you get the message "System scan is 100% complete".

When you honk, you perform a wider scan (around 40 ls) which establishes positions of objects in the system.

Can I just offer a slight correction to that please:

On entering the system anything in the 30ls passive detection range is "discovered" - performing the disco scan "honk" then discovers all stellar bodies in the system. You have to FSS the system to reveal (discover) the other objects (bodies and asteroid belts).

 

[Midian Cabal]

Can I just offer a slight correction to that please:

On entering the system anything in the 30ls passive detection range is "discovered" - performing the disco scan "honk" then discovers all stellar bodies in the system. You have to FSS the system to reveal (discover) the other objects (bodies and asteroid belts).

Corrected, thanks!