Powerplay Considering returning to PP to exploit the broken mechanics

[Saool]

I spent 11 weeks fighting for Mahon, hearding cats, contributing heavily to the seb-reddit etc, but left after it became apparent how broken and bias the system was.

However after realising just how broken and bias it is (much worse than I thought), I am now considering returning to PP and pledging to Arissa Lavagny-Duval, who I hate. Apparently the most money can be made by expansions due to the massive staking bonuses. So I could just pledge and then hit all the most terrible expansions available. Thus making myself stacks of cash, whilst doing minor damage to power. Of course I can do this is solo as well so can exploit the crap out of PP broken mechanics in peace.

I might even pick up one of the only good PP weapons (both Empire of course) in the process.

Thoughts?

 

[Sire]

Can't understand your post; if you need permission I'm giving mine to you even if I'm convinced you can do whatever you want in your game.
You can pledge, unpledge, exploit, not exploit... does anyone really care?

 

[Saool]

Can't understand your post; if you need permission I'm giving mine to you even if I'm convinced you can do whatever you want in your game.
You can pledge, unpledge, exploit, not exploit... does anyone really care?

And there in lays the problem. It's broken and people don't care.

Least of all F-DEV apparently.

That's my point.

 

[Apos]

Come back to the unbendable Mahon green!

 

[GluttonyFang]

Lol do whatever you want, PP is a ​bad joke.

 

[Vitamin Arrr]

I spent 11 weeks fighting for Mahon, hearding cats, contributing heavily to the seb-reddit etc, but left after it became apparent how broken and bias the system was.

However after realising just how broken and bias it is (much worse than I thought), I am now considering returning to PP and pledging to Arissa Lavagny-Duval, who I hate. Apparently the most money can be made by expansions due to the massive staking bonuses. So I could just pledge and then hit all the most terrible expansions available. Thus making myself stacks of cash, whilst doing minor damage to power. Of course I can do this is solo as well so can exploit the crap out of PP broken mechanics in peace.

I might even pick up one of the only good PP weapons (both Empire of course) in the process.

Thoughts?

How about explaining exactly how it is broken and what you mean by, "the most money can be made by expansions due to the massive staking bonuses. So I could just pledge and then hit all the most terrible expansions available"?

That way I can go write a detailed bug report about it on the appropriate sub, for you.

 

[Saool]

How about explaining exactly how it is broken and what you mean by, "the most money can be made by expansions due to the massive staking bonuses. So I could just pledge and then hit all the most terrible expansions available"?

That way I can go write a detailed bug report about it on the appropriate sub, for you.

You should read this thread.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=180362&page=6

Bug reports have been submitted and apparently ignored. So don't bother. Also I'm pledged to ALD now so I want my share of the easy mode, gravy train pie before anything is balanced.

 

[Apos]

Also I'm pledged to ALD now so I want my share of the pie before anything is balanced.

Why did you let the dark side consume you?

 

[Saool]

Why did you let the dark side consume you?

Oh don't worry. I'm going to totally 5th column. Attacking other Empire targets and undermining systems already undermined. But once I am high enough rank to get good bonuses, say 4, I will just do RES sights and bounty hunt.

I'm going to do nothing actually productive, just milk the silly bias bonuses whilst the last and fill my pockets.

 

[Apos]

Oh don't worry. I'm going to totally 5th column. Attacking other Empire targets and undermining systems already undermined. But once I am high enough rank to get good bonuses, say 4, I will just do RES sights and bounty hunt.

I'm going to do nothing actually productibe, just milk the silly bias bonuses whilst the last and fill my pockets.

5th collumning Arissa only means that they are going to fix it within a week, so I guess it's in everyone's benefit. I'm sure the Aisling supporters are going to give their support in your honorable cause.

 

[JessieColt]

Oh don't worry. I'm going to totally 5th column. Attacking other Empire targets and undermining systems already undermined. But once I am high enough rank to get good bonuses, say 4, I will just do RES sights and bounty hunt.

I'm going to do nothing actually productibe, just milk the silly bias bonuses whilst the last and fill my pockets.

Heh! I am doing basically the same thing.

Doing Crime Sweeps in Expansion systems for Merits. But instead of Res for bounties, I am working CZ's.

Based on the seriously high Expansion Values, I am going to guess that there are a whole lot of us doing the exact same thing.

 

[Vitamin Arrr]

You should read this thread.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=180362&page=6

Bug reports have been submitted and apparently ignored. So don't bother. Also I'm pledged to ALD now so I want my share of the easy mode, gravy train pie before anything is balanced.

Link to the filed bug report thread please? I searched, and could not find it. Maybe you're telling me not to bother since you intend to join her and get the gravy train, eh?

So let me see if I understand this right. The current bug is that there is a math error that increases ALD's bonus for combat bonds and bounties, beyond what it should be, by a large amount? That's pretty crazy.

But I still don't understand what expansions have to do with it. What does "staking expansions" mean? And what are "seriously high Expansion Values"? I don't understand. (I am still pretty of new to this game, BTW, especially to the Power Play side of things.)

 

[GluttonyFang]

How about explaining exactly how it is broken and what you mean by, "the most money can be made by expansions due to the massive staking bonuses. So I could just pledge and then hit all the most terrible expansions available"?

That way I can go write a detailed bug report about it on the appropriate sub, for you.

I appreciate the enthusiasm... but when the FD itself gives no crap about the issue... no amount of bug report is going to override the "working as intended" bull crap certain people like to pull.

 

[Vitamin Arrr]

I appreciate the enthusiasm... but when the FD itself gives no crap about the issue... no amount of bug report is going to override the "working as intended" bull crap certain people like to pull.

If I didn't know better I'd think you didn't *want* the issue known about or fixed, because it's an exploit and you can sit there making a ton of money from it. And what makes you say they don't care about the issue? I'm just curious. Is it because it hasn't been fixed after 90 days of PowerPlay being out? Also is it possible that there's something you don't know?

 

[Roybe]

I spent 11 weeks fighting for Mahon, hearding cats, contributing heavily to the seb-reddit etc, but left after it became apparent how broken and bias the system was.

However after realising just how broken and bias it is (much worse than I thought), I am now considering returning to PP and pledging to Arissa Lavagny-Duval, who I hate. Apparently the most money can be made by expansions due to the massive staking bonuses. So I could just pledge and then hit all the most terrible expansions available. Thus making myself stacks of cash, whilst doing minor damage to power. Of course I can do this is solo as well so can exploit the crap out of PP broken mechanics in peace.

I might even pick up one of the only good PP weapons (both Empire of course) in the process.

Thoughts?

If it's as broken as everyone says...go for it. I would suggest advertising for a group of players to help you...publicly announce exactly what you are all doing week to week and show everyone how broken this part of the game actually is. Be loud, be public, be precise.

 

[GluttonyFang]

If I didn't know better I'd think you didn't *want* the issue known about or fixed, because it's an exploit and you can sit there making a ton of money from it. And what makes you say they don't care about the issue? I'm just curious. Is it because it hasn't been fixed after 90 days of PowerPlay being out? Also is it possible that there's something you don't know?

I don't know how much you know about me and my presence on the forum, but I follow PP closely and pretty much know almost every problem about it. I follow other subjects about the game in general, as well.

From experience, I can tell you they don't care unless they're forced into a corner, then they'll pretend they care.

Ever since the beginning, people were bounty exploiting for an extensive period of time, so early players have extreme amount of money. During it, the seeking good exploit was abused.

Then what has persisted since the beginning of the game, instant trading never got fixed even now. Infinite shield and memory value manipulation can still be done for infinite shield, instant kill, and so on.

There's so many things broken that I can't finish listing them all but list the prominent ones.

In the end, I have mix feelings about FD. One side I really want to bash its face in for the things it has done, on the other hand I'm genuinely pitying FD for its inexperience in managing a MMO community.

So the former makes me want to rage quit and the latter makes me want to have faith in FD and have patience.

I am and have been stuck in between the two for quite a while, occasionally leaning toward one side and another. Overall it's been relatively negative for me. I'm not playing this game because I support or like FD, I'm playing it for the friends I made and the friendships I intend to maintain.

I'm just waiting for FD to either push me over the edge or do something that will make me play this game out of appreciation of FD and throw massively amount of money at it for its dedication to the community.

The latter has been lacking, improving slightly, but lacking.

 

[Roybe]

I don't know how much you know about me and my presence on the forum, but I follow PP closely and pretty much know almost every problem about it. I follow other subjects about the game in general, as well.

From experience, I can tell you they don't care unless they're forced into a corner, then they'll pretend they care.

Ever since the beginning, people were bounty exploiting for an extensive period of time, so early players have extreme amount of money. During it, the seeking good exploit was abused.

Then what has persisted since the beginning of the game, instant trading never got fixed even now. Infinite shield and memory value manipulation can still be done for infinite shield, instant kill, and so on.

There's so many things broken that I can't finish listing them all but list the prominent ones.

As I told Saool...(I am not disagreeing with you) recruit some players, publicly state what is broken and publicly play the broken mechanic to the detriment of the game. From what you are stating this should work.

 

[GluttonyFang]

As I told Saool...(I am not disagreeing with you) recruit some players, publicly state what is broken and publicly play the broken mechanic to the detriment of the game. From what you are stating this should work.

I and many old forum users did that already, and nope, FD gives no crap. We aren't lazy, but just disappointed and tired.

What's further insulting is that when we explain an exploit in the open, we'll get banned for discussing it. So the only way is to submit private bug supports, and guess where those end up...

You guessed it, the trash can.

Ex.

7 different player groups submit video evidence of a single cheater who publicly admit to cheating on twitch only receives two "stern warnings."

I'm not kidding, btw. Ask any old players and they will nod with a bitter grin.

 

[Rubellen]

And there in lays the problem. It's broken and people don't care.

Least of all F-DEV apparently.

That's my point.

You hit the nail on the head... No one really cares cause it is illogical and not immerging... They are only in it for the money/ rewards. Let FD say something like 'log in, get out of the station and fly for 12 hours uninterrupted in and out of the space station and you will get an über plasma particle prop shooter' - well you would be surprised how many commanders would be doing this...

 

[Acceleratio]

You know what Saool? I'm going to do the same. Fought for the Alliance/mahon all the time, the reward is laughable (no own ship, no ranks, Mahon is boring etc).
I did it out of idealism but why shouldnt I go full total 5th and hurt the empire alot more by simply joining it. So see you there CMDR, I was going to rank up for the clipper anyway.