"Console development continues behind the scenes with an Autumn release still on schedule"

[[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_]

There is no question that gaming on consoles is a distant second to mobile gaming e in terms of revenue for game companies but it's silly to assume that Frontier missed the boat because their preferred platform to release games first on is PC.

Their preferred platform to release Elite Dangerous on first is PC - not all of their games.

Sales of all of their games have been underwhelming only on PC, though.

This consoleer would like to posit - based on the proven game sales figures relative to all platforms - that had Frontier targeted console as the lead development platform for Odyssey, it would've not only been delivered in a much more stable, functional and performant state (as you'd eliminate the endless combinations of CPU/GPU/resolution/O/S patch level, driver level,etc. etc. ), it would've also made them more money, in terms of both sales and revenue. Indeed, as the graphs show, XBox alone eclipses PC game sales for most of the major publishers, hence the potential sales opportunity is greater than double on XBox + PlayStation, than it is on PC.

Bearing that in mind, my anticipation is, given the current financial climate at Frontier, they may now have increased impetus to target console as a platform for Odyssey earlier than previously thought, and if they are smart and had the ambition and drive to do so, they would make a strategic decision to make console the lead platform for Elite, and maximise their retail opportunities via console, just as most of the leading software dev and publishing houses do already.

Edit: There, I at least tried to wander back towards the topic of main discussion...

 

[LeoBartlet]

Their preferred platform to release Elite Dangerous on first is PC - not all of their games.

True just three out of their current 5 games were PC first releases.

Sales of all of their games have been underwhelming only on PC, though.

Really you have some stats to verify that all their current releases have had underwhelming sales only on pc?

This consoleer would like to posit - based on the proven game sales figures relative to all platforms - that had Frontier targeted console as the lead development platform for Odyssey, it would've not only been delivered in a much more stable, functional and performant state (as you'd eliminate the endless combinations of CPU/GPU/resolution/O/S patch level, driver level,etc. etc. ), it would've also made them more money, in terms of both sales and revenue. Indeed, as the graphs show, XBox alone eclipses PC game sales for most of the major publishers, hence the potential sales opportunity is greater than double on XBox + PlayStation, than it is on PC.

lol yea because performance was the only thing wrong with Odyssey.

 

[Northpin]

So you're contesting these published sales figures, then?

The Green sections are PC.
Blue, Red and Yellow are console.

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I'm just going to assume you're being contrary for the sake of argument, and will refrain from contributing further to that argument. Don't want another thread diverting into needless "PC vs Console" territory.

No. I'm not contesting those numbers.
What I'm contesting is their relevance to FDev and Elite Dangerous.

So, show me Frontier Developments in those charts and specifically Elite Dangerous. Can you? No?

The point being:
FDev does make games in some niche markets.
For example Elite has it's own personal niche. Planet type games again have their own niche (and i'm including JWE here too)

 

[[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_]

No. I'm not contesting those numbers.
What I'm contesting is their relevance to FDev and Elite Dangerous.

So, show me Frontier Developments in those charts and specifically Elite Dangerous. Can you? No?

The point being:
FDev does make games in some niche markets.
For example Elite has it's own personal niche. Planet type games again have their own niche (and i'm including JWE here too)

Ok so Frontier's games are too 'niche' for console players. A bit of an old fashioned and limited world view IMO and one that I don't agree with. I'll leave it at that.

 

[Factabulous]

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[LeoBartlet]

Something tells me I'm not going to get those stats regarding ALL Frontier titles underwhelming sales only on PC.

 

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"where it needs to be"

Not exactly a quantitative measurement, the statement gives literally no information.

 

[LeoBartlet]

"where it needs to be"

Not exactly a quantitative measurement, the statement gives literally no information.

Business as usual then.

Here's to another six months of but what does it really mean posts/threads

 

[SasaThargoidsHunter]

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what did you try to tell us? That there are already common answer? Sorry but honestly you didn’t get the point, we can explain it to you in every way, you didn’t understand the issues, only to repeat non commutative way as an information. Happy for you that you are in the position to play EDO and didn’t be affected by this CLEAR LACK OF INFORMATION.

and to get it in point this given statements are by far non open communication.

 

[Factabulous]

what did you try to tell us? That there are already common answer? Sorry but honestly you didn’t get the point, we can explain it to you in every way, you didn’t understand the issues, only to repeat non commutative way as an information. Happy for you that you are in the position to play EDO and didn’t be affected by this CLEAR LACK OF INFORMATION.

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Makes really no sense, to explain it to you.

arf is only reapeting what all time was repeated, the information is that we have no information.

it’s like to tell someone where the end of the rainbow is, but didn’t show him the way to the end. Makes no sense

 

[Factabulous]

You should watch again - listen to the words - take them on board. It will start to make sense eventually. Give it a go.

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[LeoBartlet]

what did you try to tell us? That there are already common answer? Sorry but honestly you didn’t get the point, we can explain it to you in every way, you didn’t understand the issues, only to repeat non commutative way as an information. Happy for you that you are in the position to play EDO and didn’t be affected by this CLEAR LACK OF INFORMATION.

and to get it in point this given statements are by far non open communication.

As has been repeated at you for months now there is information but your problem is you just don't like it.

 

[SasaThargoidsHunter]

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So they agreed that is an issue ? We know it! They pass it to the devs ? We know it? That there is no information and they sells it out as an communication? Wow what a lovely and open way to keep the cmdrs on console on track… not.

 

[SasaThargoidsHunter]

As has been repeated at you for months now there is information but your problem is you just don't like it.

Mate honestly, would you see this as an information when you are not triple accounted ? I highly doubt this.

 

[LONA]

Thanks for nothing

 

[SasaThargoidsHunter]

So to be clear for any further reply,

try to sell us no information as an information is totally weird.

the only thing what would give a little hope is, that it’s acknowledged by them at the moment as a huge problem.

 

[LeoBartlet]

Mate honestly, would you see this as an information when you are not triple accounted ? I highly doubt this.

Honestly, I wouldn't be here. I have 80+ years or less on this earth and I sure as hell won't be wasting valuable time whining about a game expansion not being released.

 

[SasaThargoidsHunter]

Honestly, I wouldn't be here. I have 80+ years or less on this earth and I sure as hell won't be wasting valuable time whining about a game expansion not being released.

Hmm, do not get this as a personal hit,

you spend a whole bunch of time into here. It’s just an observation.

but hey it’s the best way to let the potential moneyrain shrinking

lovely to see, that you and other guys are fighting against customer who would like to spend money for the future of the game.

IMO when you are affected too, by this issues and all of us was it in the past, you would start requesting information like us.

no interest to get into another discuss, because it’s reached always a point where you are try to give us eggs.

so I’m afraid guys to dissapointing you, there would be in the same way the question about consoles like the last six month, till there are REAL information, as you did advise us in the past, life with that.

 

[[Cancelled Consoleer] boppa_]

Well, here's to tomorrow's announcement, consoleers