“I’ve kept it civil” lolololol
Imagine talking down to someone and then saying “oh I’m being civil” lol My god.
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Imagine talking down to someone and then saying “oh I’m being civil” lol My god.
After all this time of no news and no action, they could have come back with that solution, before making those statements.
Leaving us on Consoles without giving a way out, when everyone knows that there are ways to do that, its not about talking if it easy or not. For sure it is easier to come back with a partial solution at hand and post that kind of statement.
-I also stated a solution if it wasnt that easy.
-Which means, they cannot manage the company or they wont manage the company because they arent allowed, because the company is going under a sale or something relevant.
-Transfer services are easier than coding a whole game into a different platform.
-They could hire people to do that for them, for a price paid by the people using that service.
-If this was done earlier, even less people would complain about that having a price tag on it.
-Whatever the case, speculations are made but the fact that this solution will help the community and keep their faithful console player base does not change.
-Denying a precentage of your player base, means you dont actually wish to recover because of other reasons.
-The percentage that would not accept the paid transfer are the people that dont contribute to the game upkeep on consoles either way, so that is not going to be a loss for the company. The follow up choice for those people is to get E.D @ PC for free, as done in PSN at points for example, for a set period of time, if their account was linked to a console account.
-The best solution however, is a free migration of all progress from console to pc for free, to the player base willing to do so.
Oh this is rich. A game is delayed over and over and over and over. Doomsayers start whispering about whether it'll ever come out. FDev communication is hot garbage. EDO performance on high-end PCs is all over the place. EDO gameplay itself is complained about. Everything about EDO on consoles is cryptic and unclear.I can’t imagine what it must be like to operate with a paramecium for a brain. There were the trailers, dev blogs, and then the PC release - at no point during any of that was there any indication that Odyssey for console would ever get canceled. Delayed? Sure. Canceled? Please show where that was hinted. I implore you since you clearly have a Big Brain
Red flags were everywhere but according to you, "there were no hints!".
You're the one duped and ultimately furious over this change but I'm the big brain? Haha oh boy. I wish you well with your future gaming endeavors!
As far I'm aware of, in theory, we can use a mouse+keyboard on both XBox / PS4 ...
I might be wrong, though...
You are spot on about a keyboard being almost not enough for all the keybinds. Using a TKL one and they are all mapped!!
No hints for a cancellation. None. Delays - absolutely. There was also no sign of them completely halting content updates either. I can dog-walk you through it since you’re having trouble with these simple conceptsOh this is rich. A game is delayed over and over and over and over. Doomsayers start whispering about whether it'll ever come out. FDev communication is hot garbage. EDO performance on high-end PCs is all over the place. EDO gameplay itself is complained about. Everything about EDO on consoles is cryptic and unclear.
Red flags were everywhere but according to you, "there were no hints!".
You're the one duped and ultimately furious over this change but I'm the big brain? Haha oh boy. I wish you well with your future gaming endeavors!
And? Are you new to the internet or something?
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Rubbish, of course it can. I'm playing EDO exclusively with an Xbox One pad. Never have to reach for keyboard or mouse (with the exception of UI bugs of course).
Agree, People do not understand the history of this game going back to the 80s. Braben is not going to cancel or end the development of Elite Dangerous but what they will do is get back on track with their primary platform.No hints for a cancellation. None. Delays - absolutely. There was also no sign of them completely halting content updates either. I can dog-walk you through it since you’re having trouble with these simple concepts
This is Braben's passion project, it is what made him a game developer. I don't see anything in his statement that even comes close to supporting this game-ending theory.
I have no qualms with them ditching us console players - or canceling Odyssey. But it’s ridiculous to suggest by some kids in here that that’s what they were going to do for a year. They should have had a contingency plan for us, but instead it’s “you’ll get critical updates”. Gee, thanks lol
Yeah i play mostly with Xbox 360 Controller on PC but i have some keybinds.
However its not really a surprice they drop developement for Consoles. Look in the past with Macs. This was a way to get more income, but as soon the effort is higher then the income thouse versions get dropped.
Anyway if i look at EDO there are still a lot things to do. Horizons runs so much better with less bugs.
Take alone the darker graphics, delay in loading graphics and sounds when you enter. just the ones you see i dont want to start on other stuff like forgotten Keybinds, modifications on GUI and so on.
Odyssey is still in a very bad shape, yes you can play with it but Horizons plays much better for the space only part.
It has also nothing to do with the hardware its the code itself. Better hardware however performs a little bit better then on less good hardware and i guess thats the main reason for this decition. The EDO Code runs so bad on consoles, they just cant sell it or face a huge storm and refunds again.
I got Edo with LEP but i would be disappointed when i had bought it for 30-50€ and i still wonder why its still in such a bad shape.
It can and should. They definitely do not have the skilled coder base that they used to have.
If I were David with 30% stake in FDev whilst trying to step away from dev (BTW he and his pal were coding Elite into a 32Kb game, in machine code 40 years ago!), I would at this very moment be looking at the possibilities of the next gen of ED with a new team to update the Cobra game engine (ED is dying and not just EDH, EDO is going also, but may last a couple of years more than EDH), so will it be ED2 or EliteV?
(I coded in Assembler and Machine Code from 1978-1990, in case you ask, so I am familiar with the era of 1984 coding).
The point was general, I have also been discussing a brand of YT streamers, and not aimed specifically in regard to the video you posted, though I perhaps should have made that clearer, fair point.
However, putting that small part aside, as I was more focusing on your words, it changes nothing about what I said, and yes, feel free to have no part in it, but trying to also burn it all to the ground for everyone else isn't doing that, and it would be hypocritical to suggest that it is.
It hasn't been lie after lie as you stated. The only thing that Frontier have had to change is the console situation, and that sucks, but frankly if it is the difference between being able to move forward with Elite and its 10 year plan, as you incorrectly said was a lie, then as much as it sucks, and again, I truly feel for those on console, it was a tough decision made for the greater picture of continuing development of Elite. I have to accept that. But it's also fair to point out that if one loves Elite as much as one says, then it stands to reason that it would be preferable for one to see it continue to succeed on a single platform, rather than seeing Elite brought down completely trying to make Odyssey work on, what is now, last generation console hardware. It is the not only the end of development for Elite on the previous console generation but it's also soon going to be the end of development for the console in general as the new generation really starts ramping up, even though it's taken a lot longer than intended due to COVID collateral damage - there's already talk about the current/new generation being the lost console generation.
Look, I actually backed Elite with a view to play on Mac, then it turned out my Mac wasn't high enough spec - this is when the OG base game was considered demanding. So I thought I would just use the PC as I had a PC, but that was still XP and Elite was to launch on Win7 & up. Due to some RL circumstances I had to wait sometime before I got a PC that was able to run it, and that's the way it is. I wasn't happy about it but the choice is either that I could have thrown my toys out of the pram or go where the game was going, and folks have to choose what's more important, a console approaching retirement or Elite moving forward, and that's a personal decision at the end of the day. I wanted to play Elite so I got the hardware I needed to make that happen. I now have upgraded to a laptop that runs Odyssey to mostly my satisfaction, ngl, I'm still looking for improvements in a few areas (settlements), but I'm pretty sure that my original PC would have a very hard time running Odyssey, but what can you do? As time goes on and stuff gets added and graphics improve, specs go up.
I don't know of any circumstances where any company would do that. The best thing I can suggest is, if it becomes possible, to move your more experience CMDR to PC, transfer all monetary assets from your PC CMDR in game via a fleet carrier or something, and then carry on.
EDIT; just so it is clear, as what I wrote above has been misintrepreted by a third party without full context, and it is a very lengthy thread with high emotions... I still advocate FDev providing a full migration path to PC from console. However, @tolm wants to merge two accounts into one; an already existing PC CMDR and the one he wants to move to PC from console. I hope what I wrote above is more clear now.
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So simple, yet so easy to forget after 6+ months away. Thanks for the reminder
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yw, wanna see the list of what I forget at times?So simple, yet so easy to forget after 6+ months away. Thanks for the reminder
It may be the i7 that's holding your performance back, similar spec to you, though on laptop and getting dips to ~45fps ish but mostly more 90-144fps.
No reason Elite cant run on the Series X, flight simulator 2020 runs better than on my PC. i hope at very least we can transfer our console data over to PC with over 2000hrs of grinding and £100's invested into the game to aid it's development, i had my xbox 5yrs before my PC and really dont think i'm going to start from scratch all over again, i've worked right up to a fleet carrier and all the ships since picking the game up in 2015 ..but, is this the beginning of the end? maybe it's time to checkout Star Citizen instead but that will probably go the same way too
It's as true as a lot of what you say but you are right to point it out, nevertheless.