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Well, from what I've came to discover, the quasi-totality of people who "stopped playing at the release of EDO" and complain ever since about EDO are console players...
I'm not sure what you are trying to insinuate but my last console was the PlayStation 2 and this is the second time I share my opinion (complain) about the topic.
 
I'm not sure what you are trying to insinuate but my last console was the PlayStation 2 and this is the second time I share my opinion (complain) about the topic.
My point is that from my experience most people who complain about EDO don't actually play EDO, either by choice or because they can't. And they resent it, which I totally understand, but then I don't get why they keep coming to complain about it. They don't like it anymore? Fine, just move on mates.
 
I mean, it's one very specific First-World Problem: Consumer Dissatisfaction.

Is it?
I payed 20 Euro for Elite+Horizons+Commander pack on XB.
And i played and enjoyed the game for more than 3000 hours.

Even if they shut down the servers today, i simply cannot say that i'm not satisfied with the deal i got from those 20 Euros.
But they dont shut down the servers today and i can still get some playtime out of ED.
 
My point is that from my experience most people who complain about EDO don't actually play EDO, either by choice or because they can't. And they resent it, which I totally understand, but then I don't get why they keep coming to complain about it. They don't like it anymore? Fine, just move on mates.
You use words like "they" and "quasi-totality of people", but you are directly arguing with my opinion. Just say "I think you do this because of x" if that's what you're trying to say.
I could also make wild assumptions about why you think what you think but that would be in bad faith.
 
Ok, I've had a couple of days to vent and think through why this announcement made me so emotional. I believe that the reasons for my anger and sadness is that the announcement created an emotional perfect storm by hitting 3 of my soft spots for this game at once:
1. The announcement kind of implies that EDH is not a game worth spending time on.
2. The announcement confirmes the fear that I have discovered this game too late in its lifespan.
3. The announcement will inevitably lead to the great in game community falling apart.

However, the game isn't gone tomorrow. Fingers crossed they will still keep the Horizons servers for a few years. After all, there are PC players who also play Horizons, either because they can't run Ody, or because they don't need Ody.

And I always knew that I was coming late to the party, having discovered ED only a year ago. Since the ED galaxy isn't stored on my Xbox, but rather on a server somewhere, this game has a definite end of life date, even though we don't know when that is yet. Who knows, if we keep playing we might be able to push back this date.

And finally, I will keep playing this game for as long as possible, simply because this is the game I've always wanted to play. I get to venture into space, fly my very own spaceship. I can go outside my house on a cloudless night, look up at the stars, pick one of them, and then fly there in my space ship in ED. Actually, I'm finally able to visit the shoulder of Orion, something I've dreamed about since watching Blade Runner for the first time.

There's still so much I haven't done in this game. I want to go visit the Dynasty sites, I want to fly to Colonia along the Colonia Bridge. Experience Sag A*, and go all the way to Beagle Point. I want to continue defending my squadrons space from any invaders. And I will enjoy every second of every moment of it.
 
im kinda new to elite - found elite on play station store - thought cool it kinda looks like freelancer let me give it a shot - liked it -

Look around on the web i saw that it was on the pc and had more expansion - i bought them all - laptop could barely play them - nd by barley i mean i had skip tyhe launcher to get them to initialy to load - and set graphics to the lowest quality - have since upgraded to a better desktop. so i can play oddesy game looks so much better at ultra .

ive always liked pc games better than console games - if i need to upgrade my pc to met requirments then i iupgrade my pc .


console games - if i need to upgraede my console - well its buy a new playstation. or xbox , or nintendo .........


but back on topic - i saw from day one that the console was not going to get odysey expansion - hence i bought the pc version .
 
You use words like "they" and "quasi-totality of people", but you are directly arguing with my opinion. Just say "I think you do this because of x" if that's what you're trying to say.
I could also make wild assumptions about why you think what you think but that would be in bad faith.
No need to assume, as I will explain: I say what I say because I play EDO from the start. Before EDO even released, I told my girl that obviously the game would be terrible the 2-3 first weeks (I expected countless bugs, kills, connections issues...) and would gradually improve, because you can't expect such a big update to go smoothly, and I was fine with it, especially in the context of the pandemic that caused such mayhem. And guess what, it happened exactly as planned and so I didn't care. Since then, EDO has improved 10 fold, I've updated my computer to keep up wih the real world instead of whining about perf, and I've really enjoyed EDO which is, on every aspect, far superior to EDH (I challenge you to name one important aspect of the game that has not been improved). So I simply say what I say because despite quite a few (real) technical issues and some other things that I would do differently if I was a dev, I'm also a grown-up so I understand sometimes things are what they are, and instead of watching Yamiks videos to childishly convince myself that a game that I don't play anyway is crap, I simply play it. And actually I love the game. You don't? Fine, great! But just move on, man. The mere fact that you and the army of guys who keep on coming here to complain about a game they assure they don't touch anymore don't tells me quite a few things, actually.
 
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No need to assume, as I will explain: I say what I say because I play EDO from the start. Before EDO even released, I told my girl that obviously the game would be terrible the 2-3 first weeks (I expected countless bugs, kills, connections issues...) and would gradually improve, because you can't expect such a big update to go smoothly, and I was fine with it, especially in the context of the pandemic that caused such mayhem. And guess what, it happened exactly as planned and so I didn't care. Since then, EDO has improved 10 fold, I've updated my computer to keep up wih the real world instead of whining about perf, and I've really enjoyed EDO which is, on every aspect, far superior to EDH (I challenge you to name one important aspect of the game that has not improved). So I simply say what I say because despite quite a few (real) technical issues and some other things that I would do differently if I was a dev, I'm also a grown-up so I understand sometimes things are what they are, and instead of watching Yamiks videos to childishly convince myself that a game that I don't play anyway is crap, I simply play it. And actually I love the game. You don't? Fine, great! But just move on, man. The mere fact that you don't tells me quite a few things, actually.
I'm not sure why you are so hostile and argumentative towards me. I just shared my thoughts on the topic, you're free to disagree or not even respond at all. I'll leave it at that, take it easy and have a good day.
 
I'm not sure why you are so hostile and argumentative towards me. I just shared my thoughts on the topic, you're free to disagree or not even respond at all. I'll leave it at that, take it easy and have a good day.
I'm not hostile, I simply don't understand? Can you tell me what the problem is with EDO, in plain words? I'm really asking.
 
unless they're straight up pulling console/horizons support entirely, they should just enable crossplay for them at this point. why the hell not? as far as horizons is concerned unless sony/ms has a dumb say about it (which they might tbh) then not having crossplay is just stupid.

as a pc player i'm not getting odyssey until certain glaring problems get addressed anyway. horizons, engine-wise, works pretty alright as it is and the story will move on regardless of what i or anyone does. BGS works independent of whatever platform anyone plays on, and if they're focusing on fixing that and odyssey up (which they both desperately need) then i'm all for it. BGS fixes help everyone anyway.

also +1 for everyone saying that console migration should be a thing. should've been a thing already anyway, and the other way around too because, again, why the hell not?
 
unless they're straight up pulling console/horizons support entirely, they should just enable crossplay for them at this point. why the hell not? as far as horizons is concerned unless sony/ms has a dumb say about it (which they might tbh) then not having crossplay is just stupid.

as a pc player i'm not getting odyssey until certain glaring problems get addressed anyway. horizons, engine-wise, works pretty alright as it is and the story will move on regardless of what i or anyone does. BGS works independent of whatever platform anyone plays on, and if they're focusing on fixing that and odyssey up (which they both desperately need) then i'm all for it. BGS fixes help everyone anyway.

also +1 for everyone saying that console migration should be a thing. should've been a thing already anyway, and the other way around too because, again, why the hell not?
I imagine the merge of pc horizons and odyssey UI/galaxy/graphics will now be back on the roadmap, ie you will be running the EDO version even when using horizons.
 
Yeah, I wasn't really talking about my experience in game. You can have an educated opinion on a product without using it. I've never played SC either but I have a good idea of why I don't want to.
It was an educated opinion, but I'd say it's a bit stale now. I don't speak to SC because I've only second hand knowledge, but I also stopped playing Odyssey after launch because it WAS bad. But around update 8 I tried it again and found the vast majority of my grievances had been addressed.
 
Some can criticize without needing to try to burn it all down to prove whatever it is they are actually trying to prove, and frankly when criticism gets into that territory then they're on their own and I'll have no part in it. Though I hear it can lead to great adsense profit, viewer engagement if discussed on certain a video platform, especially if you can't make it by providing constructive content.


And some people actually argue against the criticism instead of attempting a failed ad hominem... and they'd be on their own as I'll have no part in it...

That video is from Frontier Development... on their own Elite: Dangerous channel... not mine. And it's their CEO, David Braben, discussing all the content that WILL be in the game.

Nice try though, champ.
 
It was an educated opinion, but I'd say it's a bit stale now. I don't speak to SC because I've only second hand knowledge, but I also stopped playing Odyssey after launch because it WAS bad. But around update 8 I tried it again and found the vast majority of my grievances had been addressed.
Fair enough. It's likely we have different thresholds of accepting bugs / wonkiness / performance issues. I'm still skeptical about it, but the only way for me to test would be to buy the product I'm skeptical about which is a no go. The core gameplay of Odyssey also doesn't interest me (without a true Battlefield 1942 - like triangle of combat) which is probably the bigger issue now that I reflect more on it.
But I see your point, I've been hearing similar things from other people.
 
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