Covert theft

[Northpin]

You need 6 Cover Thefts and 6 Cover Heist. Must be "Cover" type of Theft and Heist, not just Theft or Heist and 6 AND 6. I did it and unlocked that engineer.

Wow...you will argue with me ?? I did it and I know what I did. 6 AND 6. not combination 6 or 6. If that is what customer service person told you then he was wrong. Maybe never played the game.
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It's 6 missions total. Any combination of Covert Thefts and Covert Heists should do it.
But since Covert Thefts are not properly counted, most people prefer to do 6 Covert Heists then a relog and be done with it.

My own experience was not that smooth since for quite a while the station i was based lacked any Covert Heists.
So i started with Covert Thefts, knowing they are not counted properly. Eventually i did 7 Covert Thefts and 3 Covert Heists (the unlock came after handing over the last 2 covert thefts followed by a relog).
So 10 total missions due to the bugged counting of Covert Thefts

Also... check Zac's response below.... 6 missions total.

TERRA VELASQUEZ

Hey all - I'm looking into the stuff with Terra now - it seems like the unlock prerequisites are all working now? Happy to be proved wrong. Can somebody potentially sum up any of the other issues with Terra into one post for me to read please as I'm also seeing stuff about financial projections...

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[SteveWW57]

Well, I was writing them down when I did it and 6 Cover Thefts did not do it, after I finished 6 Cover Heists, I got the message. Maybe he did some of them before and he didn't remembered how many he actually had to do to finish 6 and 6

Did you do the log out to update the files? That has been identified as as a means of updating the system and generating the unlock.

Steve 07.

 

[Tyres O'Flaherty]

If you go to Inara and look at your quest log it will show what missions you have done and whether or not they were successful. I think I may have put a screen shot onto the issue in the tracker

Of course, you need to have an Inara account and to uploaded your logs in the first place

 

[LumpTheNoLeggedDog]

It's 6 missions total. Any combination of Covert Thefts and Covert Heists should do it.
But since Covert Thefts are not properly counted, most people prefer to do 6 Covert Heists then a relog and be done with it.

My own experience was not that smooth since for quite a while the station i was based lacked any Covert Heists.
So i started with Covert Thefts, knowing they are not counted properly. Eventually i did 7 Covert Thefts and 3 Covert Heists (the unlock came after handing over the last 2 covert thefts followed by a relog).
So 10 total missions due to the bugged counting of Covert Thefts

Also... check Zac's response below.... 6 missions total.

TERRA VELASQUEZ

Hey all - I'm looking into the stuff with Terra now - it seems like the unlock prerequisites are all working now? Happy to be proved wrong. Can somebody potentially sum up any of the other issues with Terra into one post for me to read please as I'm also seeing stuff about financial projections...

forums.frontier.co.uk

I was counting, it was 6 and 6 and I finished yesterday, took me 2 days.

 

[LumpTheNoLeggedDog]

Did you do the log out to update the files? That has been identified as as a means of updating the system and generating the unlock.

Steve 07.

I posted log below. I did logged out couple of times to update files.

btw... I'm one of those players who don't use log-off log-in process to collect (a.k.a grinding) stuff.

 

[LumpTheNoLeggedDog]

Why people are so nasty on Frontier Forum. This is not the first time, I wrote solution to someones problem because I did know the answer because I did it and people are just nasty saying I'm wrong. It is like, if I say 2+2=4, someone right away will say NOOOooo.... 2+2=22. Some people need to get a life.

 

[LumpTheNoLeggedDog]

2 Cover Theft missions in Chac Cimih I did as share missions,so I didn't count them. Last Cover Heist on 01 Arp 7:35pm I Failed because I already got the message after finishing my 6th Cover Heist before that one 01 Apr 7:00pm , I just went there to collect some stuff and I wiped out the settlement in process. That is why Failed.

 

[LumpTheNoLeggedDog]

It is 6 and 6. No one will tell me different. I know because I DID IT and I had to do 6 and 6. So, shame on you for saying other ways, I guess Zac was wrong.
I'm done arguing here. It is 6 and 6 !!!

 

[SteveWW57]

It is 6 and 6. No one will tell me different. I know because I DID IT and I had to do 6 and 6. So, shame on you for saying other ways, I guess Zac was wrong.
I'm done arguing here. It is 6 and 6 !!!

You did 6+6 and got the unlock, others did just 6 and got the unlock. Therefore, a minimum six of the non buggy types will do for the unlock. Sometimes, more are required because of problems with the counting/bugs. Even the info from FDev is sometimes misleading. Advising you of this is not being nasty, not should we feel shame for posting what we believe to be correct. It is always possible to be wrong.

Logging off to cause data to update is not grindy, just a solution to a problem that cannot otherwise be fixed.

Part of the problem with the forums is out of date or potentially misleading information. Some of which is repeated.

Steve 07.

 

[Northpin]

2 Cover Theft missions in Chac Cimih I did as share missions,so I didn't count them. Last Cover Heist on 01 Arp 7:35pm I Failed because I already got the message after finishing my 6th Cover Heist before that one 01 Apr 7:00pm , I just went there to collect some stuff and I wiped out the settlement in process. That is why Failed.
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It is 6 and 6. No one will tell me different. I know because I DID IT and I had to do 6 and 6. So, shame on you for saying other ways, I guess Zac was wrong.
I'm done arguing here. It is 6 and 6 !!!

What you're posting is just another confirmation that Covert Thefts are not properly Counted.
You unlocked Terra after doing the 5th consecutive Covert Heist with some other Covert Thefts done before

Mind you, the missions do not count as unlocks unless you already got the referral from Jude Navarro


There is also a slight chance that things were indeed changed post U11 so the unlock requires 6+6 missions as opposed to how the unlock used to be before, as in requiring only 6 missions
So yea, i'm looking forward for other post U11 reports related to Terra unlocks.

 

[R4dioS1lence]

I remember back then (U6 or U7, not sure) text was "OR" and having done 6 C.Thefts, with logging out and logging back, and not unlocking. Inara showed journals ok, and individual mission names ok (there was a talk about some specific mission names not being counted by server/BGS). Upon looking up here, heard about C.Thefts not unlocking, and C.Heists working fine, so went with that.

6 C.Heists, logging out, logging back, double checking mission names on journals via Inara, and one of them having a different name than the others. Did one more, logging out, logging back, checking journals, same name. Did not unlock. Did some extra 2 or 3 because I failed one (and thought maybe it was decreasing the counter on fail). Same procedure. Nothing.

Collected journals, screenshots from Inara, helped with Issues Tracker entries, and ended up just contacting Support directly with things in hand. They forced the unlock for me, and it's still kinda buggy on my Engineer screen, because the boxes are ticked, but not greyed out as the other get when everything gets checked. And as far as unlocking with just C.Heists, there were several people on forums back them claiming the same thing: "only did 6 Heists, unlocked ok".

FDev probably changed the text to make people run less into this by just doing both types and more missions, in hope of enough of them counting correctly one way or another.

 

[Tyres O'Flaherty]

The problem is really twofold.

First and foremost, the bug needs to be fixed. Secondly, the wording for the engineer needs to be changed so it is less ambiguous.

"Complete six covert missions of the theft or heist variety. Any combination of the two is viable but it must be six in total".

@LumpTheNoLeggedDog
What you experienced worked for you because you did six theft which were - I imagine - all bugged and didn't count. You then did six heist which always count so the engineer unlocked. If there was no bug, the engineer would have unlocked after the theft missions.

ED sometimes requires a logoff before updates occur and this can be in many guises. Rank promotion is one that I've encountered, planet tagging is another. This may not be true for other CMDRs.

Lastly, no one is "being nasty". Certainly not me, but your comment, quote:

" Wow -you will argue with me??"

Unquote, may have come across as rather strong, rightly or wrongly. You then continued to insist your experiences were correct and, for you, yes they were, completely. However, other CMDRs, including a Dev, have said the unlock is bugged. FDev are aware of the bug and have said so. When I sent my missive to support, I included my journals. The fact they then forced the unlock is recognition that six thefts should have worked

 

[djadjok]

Just to re-confirm: 6 covert heists opens access to engineer (even without relog in my case)

 

[GeorjCostanza]

I did 6 covert heist missions last night (I've never done any covert missions prior), and got the unlock for Terra. So you definitely only need 6 covert heists at this point in time

They were all taken from Heck Dock in BD-17 6172, which has a nice mix of the 3 superpowers (someone mentioned having a mix encourages these sorts of missions to appear)

After each mission I flew back to Heck Dock and cashed it in, and I never did two in a row before heading back to the station. I would nearly always find a new covert heist mission waiting for me in the Procurement section of the mission board - I didn't take any from the dodgey mission givers standing around.

After the 6th hand-in, when I boarded my ship I received an email from Terra asking if I wanted to hang out with her. But when I went to visit, her settlement was missing from the system map, and I had to re-log to make it appear.

Now we're best buds, so all good

 

[Northpin]

I did 6 covert heist missions last night (I've never done any covert missions prior), and got the unlock for Terra. So you definitely only need 6 covert heists at this point in time

Thanks for confirming that nothing changed with Terra unlock post U11

 

[Frop]

Thanks for confirming that nothing changed with Terra unlock post U11

No, but have you seen those new sweet Twitch drops?