cqc should be sold seperately. IMO.

Like a lot of other players I enjoy cqc alot and also like a lot of other players I've experience the frustration of not being able to find a match most of the time. I think it would be benificial for frontier to sell cqc as a standalone game. Let's say they were to sell it for ten bucks and then still charge the full price for elite dangerous. They would be able to basically advertise for the main game by only selling a portion of it. And not only that but it would probably greatly increase the player base of cqc. A lot of people who aren't interested in Elite dangerous might become interested in the game or atleast look into it. If cqc was a stand alone expansion I think a lot of people would want to get it because pvp space battles would appeal to the majority of gamers and even if people only bought the cqc portion instead of the full game frontier would most likely still make a profit.
 
The more FD release you more of the overall plan is revealed. The main game is not worth much now due to the expansions including it. CQC was a fundraiser for the expansions plan. It all ties in and considers all of issues in good time. Even our ideas get taken up. FD do things right and keep it going rather than too much for us to swallow and workout.
BTW matchmaking is better now we can join open games with 2:30 left to run.
 
I clicked on this thread thinking "Of course not. What a stupid idea"

Then read it

OP makes a good point. ED really is a niche game. I love it for what it is but its not everyones cup of tea.

On the other hand.........Crazy space dog fights (done exceedingly well i might add) are a sci fi fans wet dream.

Perhaps starting folks off on the simpler concept of CQC (at a smaller price)may actually help expand the player base of the main game considerably
 

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I would imagine that when C.Q.C is fully developed you will not have the 'match finding' concerns.
It is a great change of pace from the main game, and should always be bundled with it.
As a core feature, it will appeal to a different kind of player than the main game does.
 
Main game should absolutely come with CQC. No doubt about that.

But that doesnt mean CQC cant also be sold separately. Maybe the main game for 30 and cqc for 10. Maybe 35 if you buy both together

Bottom line....i have both. I like both. I think everyone should have both. You shouldnt have to sell them seperately.

But, this game is a hard sell to a lot of people. I think cqc could attract the masses. And the lower price point would seal the deal
 
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Rather than focusing on gimping an already genetically good aspect of the game, I rather they expand on it.

A few short term goals would expand on it.

Private Matches:
Allows the community to train and face off on an equal playing field.
For sure start a match if you know you have 4-8 people.
No exp/money to avoid boosting.

Better match making: of course.

New maps + modes:
Build new maps focused on supporting all ships in the game.
Allow all ships in the game in 4 v 4 v 4 combat, or 8 v 8.

Longer term goals.
Allow players to register for CQC from space ports.
Allow for players to spectator matches via drive in movie. Or in a bar if they ever allow us to roam space ports.
Allow players to bet on matches.
 
Like it was said before the main game should absolutely have cqc in it but at the same time I still think that way, but at the same time it obviously does need the improvements that Kantei has listed above. If they were to add those improvements and sell it separately I think Elite dangerous would become way more popular.
 
I'd pay a five dollar premium to not have CQC and to not have to look at the ugly red thing on my status screen.

So yes, sell it separately, completely separately, if I don't want it, I don't have it, if you want it, you can have it...everyone is happy.
 
no, for the pricetag that is like 40 dollars and 60 dollars for horizons, people should get as much as they can out of the base game, id rather FD keep their scummy attitude towards griefing and murderers and generally not caring for the health of their community (or should i say legitimately playing the game), than fix all that and start putting the game on A CHOPPING BLOCK BEFORE ITS COMPLETELY DONE ( mind you if they did this, selling cqc ALONE, would for 10 dollars be too much, and at 5, not profitable so this makes no sense unless we wanna take it a bit further and sell other pieces of the base game along with it).... if you want to buy pieces of games go play destiny, or COD, FUHQ you for thinking of this, the industry is already plagued by stupid ideas like this.... but on the plus side i think you would be a great employee at EA, or Activision
 
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I'm not saying they should chop the game up. I think cqc should be bundled with elite dangerous. I'm just saying they should also sell cqc as a standalone because it would help ed become more popular.
 
I'm not saying they should chop the game up. I think cqc should be bundled with elite dangerous. I'm just saying they should also sell cqc as a standalone because it would help ed become more popular.

By doing so, the game gets chopped... Cqc alone sold for 5 dollars makes no profit because price is too low for the amount of work they put in, and if the price is too high, we all know it's not worth buying alone.... If people wanna play elite dangerous they will come play elite dangerous, this game will sell itself after horizons hits it's stride, they didn't need to pull gimmicks to get to this point, why would they now?
 
I'm not saying they should chop the game up. I think cqc should be bundled with elite dangerous. I'm just saying they should also sell cqc as a standalone because it would help ed become more popular.

More popular to which particular brand of gamer though?

Personally...I'd rather they stuck to shooting eachother in the face in COD :rolleyes:
 
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because it would make the game more popular I mean it just would. Let's look at the fact that most gamers don't care about elite dangerous they care about starwars battlefront or metal gear solid or battlefield. And not only that but ten bucks is a good price tag for it Most indie games sell for around that much.. It would be nothing but profit for frontier as as well as advertising for their game. The isn't being chopped a part of is just being sold seperately that's literally it. IT would just bring more attention to the game most people don't even know or care that this game exists because it's not seen as a triple A title by most people. So they don't know if they would like it or not.
 
because it would make the game more popular I mean it just would. Let's look at the fact that most gamers don't care about elite dangerous they care about starwars battlefront or metal gear solid or battlefield. And not only that but ten bucks is a good price tag for it Most indie games sell for around that much.. It would be nothing but profit for frontier as as well as advertising for their game. The isn't being chopped a part of is just being sold seperately that's literally it. IT would just bring more attention to the game most people don't even know or care that this game exists because it's not seen as a triple A title by most people. So they don't know if they would like it or not.

Then let them go play those games is the easy answer...I'll certainly be playing Star wars battlefront when it's out... same as I play BF4, Destiny and the Witcher3 :)

ED? I'd rather those with the attention span of a wasp stay clear to be honest ;)
 
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As good as CQC is, it does not have the legs to stand on it's own. Furthermore, it's not like this game is expensive and a prohibitive factor in acquisition. Especially considering most new games are launching with 65-70 pound bundles.
 
Yeah, CqC isn't worth it as a stand alone.

I mean, the combat in this game is kinda garbage. It would be a risky move to sell a game based on the worst part of it.

Then again they are selling this as an MMO and look at this community.
 
Like a lot of other players I enjoy cqc alot and also like a lot of other players I've experience the frustration of not being able to find a match most of the time. I think it would be benificial for frontier to sell cqc as a standalone game. Let's say they were to sell it for ten bucks and then still charge the full price for elite dangerous. They would be able to basically advertise for the main game by only selling a portion of it. And not only that but it would probably greatly increase the player base of cqc. A lot of people who aren't interested in Elite dangerous might become interested in the game or atleast look into it. If cqc was a stand alone expansion I think a lot of people would want to get it because pvp space battles would appeal to the majority of gamers and even if people only bought the cqc portion instead of the full game frontier would most likely still make a profit.


Like some others at first I felt this would be a bad idea, but I think you have a point.
FD could still decide to sell it as a separate game for an attractive price, but at the same time include it in the full game as well.
If people later decided they wanted to buy the full game FD could give them a discount.

I do feel that CQC needs to get at least a dozen more maps before it is sold separately.
And they should add some extensive visual customization options like Unreal Tournament has for example.
 
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Now, that's just wrong. It's ok though. I know you're just getting preemptive excuses out of the way for the day I find you.

You know what I am doing, nor will you stop me.

For real, though, terrible combat in this game, why are there so many topics surrounding it?

And why do we keep comparing the combat to CoD level, when it is barely State of Decay level as far as single player shooters go.

I'm all up for debate, but to compare the subpar mechanics surrounding combat in this game, to the best of the best? Pure insanity.
 
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