Patch Notes Update CQC Update 1.4

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Abbadon

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Frankfort said:
Why ? should we accept it it has no place n the game including the CQC rank batch .
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If I would know why is it bother you... and why you refer yourself as we...
Let's get this strate... It's not you neither me who dicide what's got place in the game and what's not. It's frontier, and they actually added a pvp module in the game what has little or no effect to u if u dont want to play it. But still, like a child who can't be happy for the others, u cry. Right now, the problem is not in the game, It's in you.
 

S.H.A.D.O

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Frankfort said:
Remove CQC from the game period .

Its dumbing down of the game we where waiting for for almost 30 years. mony and time wasted wich could be used on other parts of the game and expansions.
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I agree with you, sadly I think there is zero chance of them removing it. our best hope is that the awful cqc rank marker is removed from the main game.

I ask again, in 1.4 is the vile cqc rank marker removed or do we have an option to hide it?
 

deMangler

deMangler
tntfoz said:
I'm pretty sure it does. My upgrade from CQC beta to 1.4 downloaded very little before what looked like a mass copy from the existing files. I didn't mess around renaming any folders at all.

Anyone who didn't try the 1.4 beta or stress test is probably having to download much, much more...
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That is good to hear. I am sure it never used to so I just did it by default. My bad.
 

trigg88

trigg88
Same for me I changed nothing and upgrade took all of two minutes, not convinced I have it all yet
 
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tntfoz

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Frankfort said:
Remove CQC from the game period .

Its dumbing down of the game we where waiting for for almost 30 years. mony and time wasted wich could be used on other parts of the game and expansions.
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If CQC as a feature sells many more copies of E: D to players who like it then how is it wasted time and money?

Good sales will result in more money for Frontier to be re-invested into the main game.

Obviously CQC is fairly polarising amongst the existing player base (I like it for example, whereas you do not) - but E: D will just stagnate if Frontier don't keep innovating and adding new stuff (whether you like it or not).
 

o2thaZ

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updating at the sweetest timestamp of the day.
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Ozric

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Ozric
Frankfort said:
Remove CQC from the game period .

Its dumbing down of the game we where waiting for for almost 30 years. mony and time wasted wich could be used on other parts of the game and expansions.
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But you see, once again, you are ignoring the reasons as to why it has been added.

All of the people who enjoy it do not see it as a waste of time and money, as much as you might like it to be the game is not designed around you. We are not in the same situation as we were 30 years ago, times and gaming have changed and continue to change. Have you considered that if CQC brings more people into the game, a game that doesn't have a subscription to keep cash trickling in, it will help to fund future development?
 

GoodGorilla

GoodGorilla
"Retune influence and faction state bucket values from all player actions
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What does this mean? I understand that it's been changed, but how?
 

Hell Razor5543

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I have posted this elsewhere, but here goes; it may be of use.

When I just ran the launcher, I got a message to the effect that it needed upgrading. When I tried to upgrade it, it failed (probably due to the servers being hammered). However, I still have the last launcher upgrade on my PC, so I ran it to see what would happen. What happened was that it upgraded the launcher, and now I am upgrading the main game files (the launcher version matches the new version numbers).

I hope it helps.
 

F1Racer

F1Racer
Abbadon said:
If I would know why is it bother you... and why you refer yourself as we...
Let's get this strate... It's not you neither me who dicide what's got place in the game and what's not. It's frontier, and they actually added a pvp module in the game what has little or no effect to u if u dont want to play it. But still, like a child who can't be happy for the others, u cry. Right now, the problem is not in the game, It's in you.
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"We" means he knows he's not the only one with that opinion. But I bet he can spell 'straight'. :)

CQC is fine where it is, as sub-game from the main menu. That's all good (clearly Frankfort wants it wiped out altogether but I don't see any need for that at all).
What we don't need to see is the CQC Rank displayed in 'in your face' red on the right hand HUD panel. That stat has no place in the main game and should be moved to the CQC game itself.
Some aren't interested in CQC and don't want to see CQC Rank 'Helpless' for the rest of their Elite Dangerous gameplay lives. It simply doesn't belong there and was a bad design idea to put it there.
 
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Abbadon

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Frankfort said:
Remove CQC from the game period .

Its dumbing down of the game we where waiting for for almost 30 years. mony and time wasted wich could be used on other parts of the game and expansions.
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And how do you imagine that part when they got back their invested money by deleting from the game? Can you tell yourself these senteces in front of a mirror? It sometimes helps realize stupidity and dangerous level of ignorance.
 

DaSucker

DaSucker
Ozric said:
But you see, once again, you are ignoring the reasons as to why it has been added.

All of the people who enjoy it do not see it as a waste of time and money, as much as you might like it to be the game is not designed around you. We are not in the same situation as we were 30 years ago, times and gaming have changed and continue to change. Have you considered that if CQC brings more people into the game, a game that doesn't have a subscription to keep cash trickling in, it will help to fund future development?
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+1
Thats the point!
 

wstephenson

wstephenson
Eewec said:
Wow, now that's a list and a bit.

However, just reading through them and there are 2 lines that directly contradict each other;

- Allow NPCs to start interdicting the player while they are charging for a hyperspace jump (but not once the countdown has started)
- Don't allow NPCs to interdict if the target is charging their hyperspace drive - previously only blocked the interdiction during the actual countdown

Which of those is actually true?
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There was a bug report explaining this - which I can't find because the 1.4 CQC Beta/Stress Tests bug reports have been archived without trace.

Summarizing: The second line was in the initial CQC Beta changelog, preventing NPC interdictions while the hyperspace drive is charging. Then someone (raise your hand if you're reading this) realised that by flying around in Supercruise with your hyperspace drive charged, but preventing a jump from happening by keeping out of alignment with the destination system, you could suppress all NPC interdictions. I guess that the first changelog line came after that report, and means that they reverted to the previous behaviour.

A more wicked fix would have been to limit the amount of time you can sit with a fully charged hyperdrive by constantly dumping a lot of heat into the ship once the charge reaches 100%, but I guess this would have required testing across all ships to make sure we didn't go back to the 'Toasty Hauler' times of Beta.
 

Imrus76

Imrus76
After the update Steam asked for update the game, but always error.
Steam uninstalled, game reinstalled, solved :)
 

Trickle

Trickle
Frankfort said:
Remove CQC from the game period .

Its dumbing down of the game we where waiting for for almost 30 years. mony and time wasted wich could be used on other parts of the game and expansions.
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Got to disagree.

I think they have to adjust their pitch to the Xbox crowd. A lot of money to be made from console sales. Chances are that the cqc addition will be a benefit to console review scores directly resulting in more sales.

Console games sales bring in so much more for most game genres that I find it unlikely that the side game won't end up paying for itself. I don't see anything in CQC that looks like it took large amounts of extra resources to develop.
 

F1Racer

F1Racer
Abbadon said:
And how do you imagine that part when they got back their invested money by deleting from the game? Can you tell yourself these senteces in front of a mirror? It sometimes helps realize stupidity and dangerous level of ignorance.
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Can't you disagree with someone without insulting them or calling them ignorant and stupid ? He's entitled to his opinion and if you can't disagree without being a troll about it then that doesn't say a lot about you.
 

Ozric

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Ozric
F1Racer said:
"We" means he knows he's not the only one with that opinion. But I bet he can spell 'straight'. :)

CQC is fine where it is, as sub-game from the main menu. That's all good (clearly Frankfort wants it wiped out altogether but I don't see any need for that at all).
What we don't need to see is the CQC Rank displayed in 'in your face' red on the right hand HUD panel. That stat has no place in the main game and should be moved to the CQC game itself.
Some aren't interested in CQC and don't want to see CQC Rank 'Helpless' for the rest of their Elite Dangerous gameplay lives. It simply doesn't belong there and was a bad design idea to put it there.
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I can't remove my Mostly Harmless Combat ranking, which has been there since Gamma.

Once again, whether you like it or not, CQC is part of the overall Elite game and the fact that you can gain access to a station in the main game once you reach prestige in CQC makes it more so. People should be careful about chucking insults such as bad design around, just because they don't agree with something.
 
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