David Braben: a Steve Jobs of video gaming industry?

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Steve was salesman, David has been gaming/science/sci-fi down to earth geek trough and trough.

If someone is Apple of gaming industry, it's Valve. And it means both good and bad things.

 

[Crudzilla]

Oh God what a horrible thing to say!

Braben seems like a genuinely nice guy. Steve Jobs was a pretty nasty piece of work. I see where you are coming from with his amazing 'indie' start though.

Also, should note that Braben is building his game in the UK (not sure how much outsourcing is going on) and making a very big mark on the UK games industry.

As an Expat myself I really have to applaud him for this. I think there is a very 'British' component to Elite, Alien Isolation and, No Man's Sky. And not in a corny 'I work for Lionhead guvna" kind of way. Hard to put your finger on it but it seems like magic!

If he was Steve Jobs the game would be being built in China by horribly oppressed and exploited workers. He would also be an 'orrible yank (I jest).

Braben will of course have nothing like the global impact that Jobs had too.

 

[tnxgalaxy]

We don't want dumbed down iDocking!

There is a difference between simplified = without useless complexity
and dumbed down.
There is a point to docking complexity, this is a part of the gaming experience.
If you cut through any gaming experience, here is the source code of the most simplified game you can get:

#include <stdio.h>

int main(void) {
printf("you win!\n");
return 0;
}

 

[jabokai]

If you cut through any gaming experience, here is the source code of the most simplified game you can get:

#include <stdio.h>

int main(void) {
printf("you win!\n");
return 0;
}

Wow, best game eva! You should get that idea on Kickstarter, you'd make trillions! Needs more lazorz though... and elves.

 

[tnxgalaxy]

Wow, best game eva! You should get that idea on Kickstarter, you'd make trillions! Needs more lazorz though... and elves.

I prefer not to as I wouldn't know what to do with all the money

 

[Severian]

Bit rude comparing that nice young man, Mr. Braben to such a nasty piece of work as Jobs Gods, that would be the last comparison you want in the computer world...

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

Wow, best game eva! You should get that idea on Kickstarter, you'd make trillions! Needs more lazorz though... and elves.

It lacks cutscenes. Just sayin

 

[Stachel]

It lacks cutscenes. Just sayin

Not enough PvP. Or bacon.

 

[Tacheel]

here is the source code of the most simplified game you can get:

#include <stdio.h>

int main(void) {
printf("Pew pew lazers - Die Griefing Elvish Carebear!\n");
printf("Big Baddaboom!!\n");
printf("you win!\n");
return 0;
}

Wow, best game eva! You should get that idea on Kickstarter, you'd make trillions! Needs more lazorz though... and elves.

It lacks cutscenes. Just sayin

Fixed.

 

[stephen_usher]

If he was Steve Jobs the game would be being built in China by horribly oppressed and exploited workers. He would also be an 'orrible yank (I jest).

Sorry, that's unfair to Steve Jobs. Whatever else you think of him and his companies trying to do the right thing for the manufacturing workers and the environment (despite the suppliers' best efforts to subvert it) is/was the best in the industry, whatever Greenpeace try to make out.

 

[n0ahg]

There is a difference between simplified = without useless complexity
and dumbed down.
There is a point to docking complexity, this is a part of the gaming experience.
If you cut through any gaming experience, here is the source code of the most simplified game you can get:

#include <stdio.h>

int main(void) {
printf("you win!\n");
return 0;
}

Exactly and we don't need docking to be made easier otherwise what's the point of the docking computer (iDock or should it be iWin?). Not enough JJ Abrams type effects and some people wouldn't be able to cope with the command line :->

 

[Asmodi]

Best Troll post so far on the Forum.

David Braben more visionary than Stave Jobs...

Seriously...Steve Jobs was at the very pinnacle of his field when he sadly passed away.

David Braben isn't even in the Top 100 and even after ED is complete still wont.

If you are indeed serious then there is nothing wrong with your opinion. But that's all it is.
Although if you look up to this person as a role model and take something from that then that's great but as for being remotely visionary I think you are to coin a Sheldon Cooper phrase "Bat Crap Crazy"

 

[jabokai]

Sorry, that's unfair to Steve Jobs. Whatever else you think of him and his companies trying to do the right thing for the manufacturing workers and the environment (despite the suppliers' best efforts to subvert it) is/was the best in the industry, whatever Greenpeace try to make out.

Not unfair in the least! The company raked in silly profits from the gullible and if they really wanted to, they could have ended all those issues in a heartbeat. Like most companies of that type, profit comes first however you try and spin it. Jobs himself was a mean-spirited man, there's plenty of documented evidence of that at least.

 

[ElGuappo]

I feel sorry for David Braben. It's a miracle he gets anything done with so many lips suctioned to his backside.

 

[Steve O B Have]

Speaking from a personal perspective (this is not the view of Frontier)

I hold very little regard for Steve Jobs - his talent was in seeing other peoples creations and marketing their potential but in the process he also applied a very low and ill conceived moral profile to not only his actions but also in dealing with his own people. Steve Jobs was not a nice person nor was he a creative visionary IMO - he was more a marketing specialist with a high level of business acumen that saw his customers as a source of money and did what he could to corral them into spending more and more. Marketing genius yes, creative genius no.

DB is IMO someone that is realising a dream that was birthed way back in the 80's and had developed over the years constantly hindered by technological limitations. That dream is unfolding in front of us and is in no way a borrowed or 'remastered' imagining. ED is fundamentally a new thing made up of years of imagination and visualisation.

 

[kvmetternich]

Steve jobs was JUST a good Business man. So David Braben on his own scale.

/THREAD.

 

[Theaghan Black]

Speaking from a personal perspective (this is not the view of Frontier)

I hold very little regard for Steve Jobs - his talent was in seeing other peoples creations and marketing their potential but in the process he also applied a very low and ill conceived moral profile to not only his actions but also in dealing with his own people. Steve Jobs was not a nice person nor was he a creative visionary IMO - he was more a marketing specialist with a high level of business acumen that saw his customers as a source of money and did what he could to corral them into spending more and more. Marketing genius yes, creative genius no.

DB is IMO someone that is realising a dream that was birthed way back in the 80's and had developed over the years constantly hindered by technological limitations. That dream is unfolding in front of us and is in no way a borrowed or 'remastered' imagining. ED is fundamentally a new thing made up of years of imagination and visualisation.

I totally agree.

 

[baskila]

Why are you insulting David Braben OP???

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

I feel sorry for David Braben. It's a miracle he gets anything done with so many lips suctioned to his backside.

So you must be that objective nemesis critic every hero needs? I haven't seen lot of praise for David every day, so sometimes that just needs to be said. You can of course disagree.

 

[exioce]

Steve Jobs was a . David is not.