News David Braben Guest Blog - on Xbox One and CQC

[NeilF]

The whole thing assumes 1920x1080 with your browser maximised for the layout to function properly. And no, its not detecting my resolution. I have tested it on other lower resolution machines. As a web developer I find this a very poor decision and quite amateurish to be honest.

It does scale down but as you say.. not only are margins non existent but the entire layout breaks.

If Edward is responsible for this he really needs to sort it out.

Also interesting some of the pages aren't even working well. The "READ MORE" links don't work here for me either - https://community.elitedangerous.com/community-blog (I've reported this by a post on forum support)

 

[illage2]

Throwing our core supporters and most dedicated customers under the bus in 3... 2... 1...

Pretty much this. Its a huge slap in the face to the people who backed this game on Kickstarter. Not to mention that if it were not for the people who backed this, the game probably wouldn't have exisited. Sadly this is what happens when people get in bed with Microsoft.

 

[illage2]

Just spent an hour in the Xbox version. Its the same exact game besides the controller setup, which works pretty good. No substantial graphics setting as was suspected due to it being on xbox. It still awsome like the PC just cannot tweak graphics. Some bugs but nothing bad. Only thing is lag in the starting system but I left to go trade far away and the lag went away. No option to import a PC Commander so fresh starts for everyone. That hurts but no real learning curve for PC veterans. Starting money is 100,000 cr. good to upgrade to a hauler and set off trading to make the big bucks back.

why do they get more credits to start with?

 

[CMDR Pugwash]

I don't what's really wrong with this. Xone player having to playtest a feature we never have heard of, which sounds like an Arena (commander) mode, which sounds like a portion scaled down for consoles limitations? No big deal...

Elite Dangerous needs a lot more content, true. Truer is that expansions should be their main focus. Now, embracing other platforms is a good and natural move in game development to gather more money that would allow more devtime safer to these.

It's always the same down here: FDEV opens mouth, raging customers make a mountain out of a molehill. Boredom. But yeah, keep whinning like whimsical kids, keep sending the same "you're treacheous scammers FDEV!", keep trying hard enough to incept in FDEV brains the idea that "after all, why should we keep trying to make a game they stopped trusting a long time ago, let's focus on a less toxic target". So, you could finally say "told ya!".

When customers behave worse than the most greedy publisher. Shame on you.

Careful, you're being reasonable. + rep.

 

[Wellington]

You know what? I am actually sitting here with a massive grin on my face I can remember being labelled a troll for stating my opinion about the off-line fiasco and clearly remember sayin that I would sit and laugh when FD does a u-turn on the name callers lol Well lads, WELCOME TO OUR WORLD! Where you really do find out that our custom means little to these companies apart from numbers in an accountants ledger I saw the whole thing coming, and I cant believe others didnt. Why are people SO surprised, FD is performing true to type.

 

[Marc Alexander]

You know what? I am actually sitting here with a massive grin on my face I can remember being labelled a troll for stating my opinion about the off-line fiasco and clearly remember sayin that I would sit and laugh when FD does a u-turn on the name callers lol Well lads, WELCOME TO OUR WORLD! Where you really do find out that our custom means little to these companies apart from numbers in an accountants ledger I saw the whole thing coming, and I cant believe others didnt. Why are people SO surprised, FD is performing true to type.

What u-turn? Please enlighten me.

 

[rootsrat]

Just spent an hour in the Xbox version. /snip

Starting money is 100,000 cr. good to upgrade to a hauler and set off trading to make the big bucks back.

What? Is this in the live, full version or the preview one?

If it's the latter, then I'd love to know the reasoning behind this... It doesn't really bother me, but it just doesn't feel right fort he players to have a head start on other platforms.

 

[OriginalBadBoy]

I'm sick of the whole thing, all the lies, secrets, and deceptive behaviour. If I could get a refund I would. Haven't played since 1.2 other than the beta test coz I'm bored stupid and now feeling insulted (again), I've packed away the joystick and head tracker for the first time in over a year, and playing Witcher 3 instead & backing Rogue System. Barring a miracle and a huge shift in content delivery I'm unlikely to bother playing ED again.

So leave then ... If you think you have been treated sooo badly why are you still here?

 

[Lazerus Artificial]

What? Is this in the live, full version or the preview one?

If it's the latter, then I'd love to know the reasoning behind this... It doesn't really bother me, but it just doesn't feel right fort he players to have a head start on other platforms.

it was mentioned somewhere, its simply a beta.
i read that they start with 100k and ships cost 100cr
so...like our betas i guess.

 

[rootsrat]

it was mentioned somewhere, its simply a beta.
i read that they start with 100k and ships cost 100cr
so...like our betas i guess.

Thanks for clarification. I was a bit surprised to see that and the OP didn't mention whether it was the release or beta.

Cheers, Cmdr!

 

[Alien]

I'm sick of the whole thing, all the lies, secrets, and deceptive behaviour. If I could get a refund I would. Haven't played since 1.2 other than the beta test coz I'm bored stupid and now feeling insulted (again), I've packed away the joystick and head tracker for the first time in over a year, and playing Witcher 3 instead & backing Rogue System. Barring a miracle and a huge shift in content delivery I'm unlikely to bother playing ED again.

I'm not asking for a refund. Frontier promised free expansions for life, and I'm going to hold them to that, and I expect others in the Elite community to do the same.

 

[Rafe Zetter]

The gaming industry has always been about money. The clue is in the name. Why this is a shock to some people amazes me.

Wrong, when pc game software first started it was mostly made by guys in their mom's basements / or student lets. Just like how DB and Ian Bell made Elite. They had no idea how big Elite was to become, and how it would become the father of a genre. Big money sales for games simply didn't exist, it had never happened yet. Games were sold on cassette tapes and a lot of them were only made a few at a time, I've still got game cassettes somewhere that have a handwritten game name and a photograph (yes an actual photo) stuck on the case of the game running on a TV screen.

That's how DB got started. He wanted to make games for gamers, because he liked playing them.

DB sold the Kickstarter as "Elite 4; the way I've always wanted to make it - without outside interference from publishers or other money men".

And the core supporters rejoiced, because many (most) of them knew how Elite 1 got made, the commitment to virtual perfection that went in to making a game that should have been bigger than 32k fit inside a 32k memory block (you should read it one day, some extremely clever coding took place) and the thoughts that without outside publisher pressure; because every adult gamer knows how publishers can really mess up a good game, that DB may well just create another pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, especially as he's invited people to help him design the game in the DDF.

That's the truth to how this game got funded in the first place, and why.

However DB has already gotten into bed with one or more advertising companies and now Microsoft. Maybe this was the plan all along and he lied because he knew telling his core followers this would mean he doesn't get the money; or maybe he simply didn't really get just how hard it was going to be to make that "pot of gold at the end of a rainbow" to fit todays more discerning gamers and completely overreached himself and his team.... We'll never know because even if it's the latter DB isn't big on fessing up he made a mistake and he'll put it right, somehow.

*banhammer incoming* My personal opinion is that the "entitlement" that the PC backers feel although utterly justified, will continue to be overlooked in favor of the money. I'd love to say that DB is still the guy he was 30 years ago with the same ideals for game software, but judging by what's been going on at companies house, and FDev. I doubt it.

Mark my words, the PC crowd aren't going to get the game as laid out. Not this year, or the next, or ever.

 

[Lazerus Artificial]

Thanks for clarification. I was a bit surprised to see that and the OP didn't mention whether it was the release or beta.

Cheers, Cmdr!

also:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=157457

weird is, that some say that the ships are full priced, and some say that they are 100cr.
so either its beta, or its bugged

atleast here they say

When you buy the game you’ll be asked to create a Frontier account or link an existing one. Once you’ve logged in you'll be able to take flight in our beta galaxy. We call it a ‘beta’ galaxy, but this is already the complete Elite: Dangerous experience without compromise. You’ll be set loose in an open space, with 400 billion star systems to explore and a massively multiplayer galaxy where players have real control over the background simulation.

also in the previous

We’re proud to be leading the way on the Game Preview Program, and we wouldn’t be able to do it without our amazing community. Elite: Dangerous Game Preview is a true beta test on a console, and the first ever “early access” console game. Of course we’ll be optimizing the game further over the course of the Game Preview Program.

 

[SpitTheDog]

So leave then ... If you think you have been treated sooo badly why are you still here?

Perhaps he feels that he is still entitled to voice his opinions and concerns. You seem to feel you can so why shouldn't he?

 

[Alien]

Mark my words, the PC crowd aren't going to get the game as laid out. Not this year, or the next, or ever.

You might want to edit your post so this is the last line.
Ian is not my favourite person in the world right now, but even I find what you said a little unacceptable.

EDIT: Yaffle beat you to it.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Pls excuse my ignorance and if i am wrong please tell me so


but I read somewhere buried in these forums that if you buy ED for the XB1, you get it for PC as well.... is this true? it is not for me but a mate of mine is considering getting it, and if it is true it is the crazy scenario that it will be better to buy it for the xbox 1 even though he does not have an xbox1 - and then play on his pc.

thanks

 

[Kiblams]

Pls excuse my ignorance and if i am wrong please tell me so


but I read somewhere buried in these forums that if you buy ED for the XB1, you get it for PC as well.... is this true? it is not for me but a mate of mine is considering getting it, and if it is true it is the crazy scenario that it will be better to buy it for the xbox 1 even though he does not have an xbox1 - and then play on his pc.

thanks

Nope sorry mate.

 

[Lazerus Artificial]

Pls excuse my ignorance and if i am wrong please tell me so


but I read somewhere buried in these forums that if you buy ED for the XB1, you get it for PC as well.... is this true? it is not for me but a mate of mine is considering getting it, and if it is true it is the crazy scenario that it will be better to buy it for the xbox 1 even though he does not have an xbox1 - and then play on his pc.

thanks

they should be separate.
if you buy the xbox version, you get a 5$ coupon for the shop.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

cool, that makes sense thanks guys.

it was something I read on the forums somewhere and I thought it seemed a little nuts

 

[CMDR MAIN SEQUENCE]

Thanks for clarification. I was a bit surprised to see that and the OP didn't mention whether it was the release or beta.

Cheers, Cmdr!

There is no release version. Only the GPP (e.g. beta) version.