DDF Has Ideas
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Gives me a headache. I just use adblock plus to block the page element. That way I can still read the posts. Admittedly I have to do it for every post.... *wanders off*
Hi, forgive me if this has been asked previously. But the Design Decision Forum was something I was particularly really excited about, as the idea, as I understood it, was the community working with Frontier by pouring in really cool, creative ideas to help make the game great. During the Kickstarter I remember people pledging higher specifically to have access to it with the aim of helping to shape the game they all wanted.
Then, somewhere along the way I sort of missed the part when something happened with it, did people stop contributing ideas? Were Frontier were going to use it less? If so what's the reasons? Can someone more in the know clarify what happened and what the current state of affairs is with it? Thanks.
Then, somewhere along the way I sort of missed the part when something happened with it, did people stop contributing ideas? Were Frontier were going to use it less? If so what's the reasons? Can someone more in the know clarify what happened and what the current state of affairs is with it? Thanks.
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FD stopped using it. They just let it die: they stopped putting up subjects for discussion, without explanation, though it was clear they have become less and less interested in contributing for some time. The current state of affairs is an increasingly unhappy DDF forum, frequented by only a few DDF members. Some of those are decidedly unhappy that FD have not implemented the 'near God-like' powers that were used as a carrot to get people to Jonty up to the £300.
As for the DDA (archives): Still full of very good stuff, for the topics that FD did wave at the DDF. And much rumblings of discontent from DDF and non-DDF members that many of the post-release features are not in the DDA, and that much of the DDA has (thus far, anyway) been ignored.
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Hmm, that's rather disheartening. :/ I wonder what the reasoning is for this? My instinct says it's financial/time related, but if that's the case, explaining that to the community would probably help said unhappy DDF members, and the rest of us too. Wasn't it supposed to be one of the main 2 way communication areas? Have there been any requests for comment?
From my perspective, the talk from people about content and things to do seems like it could be obliterated (or at least lessened a great deal) by simply using the rich source of creative ideas already worked out and put forward on the DDF, and if finance/time is the issue, maybe just some of the smaller ideas in the meantime would help. I'm a bit confused about why this key element of the original Kickstarter campaign seems to have taken a backseat, maybe it's that larger foundational parts of the simulation are being worked in first?
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My instinct says they thought it was too much of a resource drain for them to keep feeding us with stuff and/or they had plenty to be going on with. Frankly, it is hard to imagine that things like powerplay would have been so badly received had they passed the details past the DDF first. So another instance (there are more like offline mode, ship models, etc.) of kickstarter promises not necessarily being thought through fully enough, and FD not being prepared to apply resources to sorting them out. Certainly in the period when the DDF was active it was great. No complaints then. But they effectively abandoned it ages ago - over a year. They only declared it dead two or three months ago. Very poor customer care.
Last summer - things changed about then.
You mean 'the new audience'?
You might think that... I couldn't possibly comment! FU
Longer than I waited for X3 Rebirth to become a good game?
Ah, wait-- I uninstalled that and I'm still waiting.
yeh i pre ordered that, and played over 1000 hrs, i actually enjoyed the bug reporting and trying to figure work arounds.
It's actually pretty much all fixed now. Trouble is, now i find it boring too, never play it.
Lets hope this game has a different ending.
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They declared it dead??
I didn't know that at all! I agree with you in running powerplay past the DDF forum first, that would have helped a great deal. I can't understand why this has been abandoned, it seems like a key element in getting it right to me. There must be some other restrictive reasons behind this being done. Even if they can't spare resources in discussing lots of proposals with the community, surely just throwing out 'what about this an that' well in advance of devoting resources to them would help to some degree?
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Only if they are prepared to put a resource into reading and analysing all the comments. Still looks like a no brainer to me, doing that must be far cheaper than releasing something that went down like a brick budgie, and then doing post-release DDF-like stuff on the main forum, and then having to rewrite stuff.They declared it dead??
I agree with you in running powerplay past the DDF forum first, that would have helped a great deal. I can't understand why this has been abandoned, it seems like a key element in getting it right to me. There must be some other restrictive reasons behind this being done. Even if they can't spare resources in discussing lots of proposals with the community, surely just throwing out 'what about his an that' well in advance of devoting resources to them would help to some degree?
To be clear, it is the DDF itself they declared dead. They have not said anything, one way or another, about the designs in the DDA. I suspect some of those are definitely in the pipeline, others have been abandoned, and even more is in the 'we will consider it again some time inthe future' pile, and thus may or may not appear.
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The DDF is the cake...
The cake is a lie...
We got a slice of it and Frontier has been adding toppings (some people like, some people don't), heres to hoping the cake isn't a lie and to my pants being blown clear off my legs when they announce such at Gamescom
Fingers crossed so hard my finger atoms are at Planck length
The cake is a lie...
We got a slice of it and Frontier has been adding toppings (some people like, some people don't), heres to hoping the cake isn't a lie and to my pants being blown clear off my legs when they announce such at Gamescom
Fingers crossed so hard my finger atoms are at Planck length
Agreed, running expensive resource using ideas past the people that will ultimately be playing them, well in advance, seems sensible to me. It's somewhat of a relief that the DDA is still being used tho!
Haha! Fingers crossed indeed!
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Woah there... it was planned but not discussed in the DDF.
Is there a term for Oxymorinic development practices? This would be a textbook case (let us coin a term) "development dissonance". Creating something that was not asked for, then claiming it was planned, but never discussing it in the design discussion.
pfft..
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That would be because of Development Dissonance.
LOLOLOLOL! Ehm .... they are coming bro, SOON™
Right now, step out of that boring simulative mentality and be ready to show your MICRO!!
Holy cow. <taps watch> is it.... 2007?
Who said it was in the vault and forgotten?
Because it isn't here now or isn't announced, doesn't mean it's never going to happen. I think the healthiest attitude with this game is to enjoy what we have now without desperately hoping for any of that DDA content to save the day. With that frame of mind, you only get nice surprises.
If one isn't happy with the game as it is and disappointed at every single updates, chances are that by the time some of those DDA gems finally see the light, it'll be drowned in whatever qualms people will have at that point of development.
We all know nothing is ever perfect but if so many of us recognize the quality and potential of the DDA, surely Frontier does too.
Whether or not all or some of it is implementable in the game is a different matter, though.
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