Yes, it seems so far to be additive when it occurs. Which is a problem, of course, for those wanting exports since every other economy consumes Agri outputs ... and almost every economy produces lots of things that Agri consumes.
"Development Level >>"? Figuring out what all these numbers do.
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I mostly agree, but people have some set aims, like yourself, but are more vulnerable to this change. Many of us where trying to build hub systems, where you can source the materials needed to go deeper without returning to the bubble. Those are now very much affected by this change, unless already complete and we don't touch them.
Icy = industry
Icy +atmo (or P) = industry+ agri
But there still are unknowns. Like the unlandable icy body I'm building a primary station on (in orbit) has helium atmo and major water geysers. Your guess is as good as mine as to what the station economy will be like.
And that's not even the real test body in the system
Cmdr Nowski´s tool for Colonization - I love it although its still Beta
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Right, yeah, so that's what i meant. I think player visions of systems are definitely ruined (my own plans for some systems are now quite jeopardised)... but my point is i don't think that necessarily makes them "completely unusable for anything", which is my read on the term "wrecked".I mostly agree, but people have some set aims, like yourself, but are more vulnerable to this change. Many of us where trying to build hub systems, where you can source the materials needed to go deeper without returning to the bubble. Those are now very much affected by this change, unless already complete and we don't touch them.
from my todays test with a Scientific Hub (pre planting a mil settlement 1.15 Hightec, after as well plus 0.15 Mil) I´d guess no, seems that the body influence doesn´t apply to pre-demermined stations - but go and test, the more data-points we get, the better
From reports so far - too few to be fully conclusive - it seems that the stations with an intrinsic economy might be immune to planetary effects.
So in that case you might - since some planets seem to give more than 1.15 - get more industrial by building a non-industrial station and letting the planet convert it...
Still too many unknowns.
It should, as long as it has no atmo. But the only real way is to tes....wait a minute. I already have an industrial outpost over an icy planet! Lemme check...
Ok, I've got an industrial outpost in my first system orbiting a rocky ice world. Got to double check the logs quick!
Ok, I've got an industrial outpost in my first system orbiting a rocky ice world. Got to double check the logs quick!
Still at 85% industrial, very inconclusive alas.
For me, this ruins everything. 95% of the planets and moons in my system are rocky bodies. In other words, my system will be exclusively refinery.
I could put more ground installations on it, but it won't change anything.
Honestly, with this new meta, I no longer feel like developing my system.
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Hi
it's my daily question before I waste a load of time.
I want an asteroid base in my system. I also want a refinery for steel and titanium.
also I am thinking a refinery contact would be fab so I could buy the ore (because asteroid base has inherent extraction so will have ore) then convert that using the refinery contact to metal, then top off my ship with the refinery made metals.
all in the same base
my ringed (ice ring but from what I have read that won't affect what is in the market?) has 3 orbital positions. 1 will be for the station the 2 to give it some refining supply
is this doable or do I need to rethink. I really want a refinery as there are none local to me, but at the same time I also want an icesteroid base because they are cool.
my error was making my initial coriolis extraction but it's too late for that now.
TLDR
is an icesteroid ring base a refinery one when I only have a total of 3 slots around the gas giant.
is it likely to have a refinery contact to allow me to refine my ore as well as but metals on the same base
thanks
it's my daily question before I waste a load of time.
I want an asteroid base in my system. I also want a refinery for steel and titanium.
also I am thinking a refinery contact would be fab so I could buy the ore (because asteroid base has inherent extraction so will have ore) then convert that using the refinery contact to metal, then top off my ship with the refinery made metals.
all in the same base
my ringed (ice ring but from what I have read that won't affect what is in the market?) has 3 orbital positions. 1 will be for the station the 2 to give it some refining supply
is this doable or do I need to rethink. I really want a refinery as there are none local to me, but at the same time I also want an icesteroid base because they are cool.
my error was making my initial coriolis extraction but it's too late for that now.
TLDR
is an icesteroid ring base a refinery one when I only have a total of 3 slots around the gas giant.
is it likely to have a refinery contact to allow me to refine my ore as well as but metals on the same base
thanks
guess you first have to build some additional stuff on that rock to activate the influence?
What I mean is systems with either minimal development or hodgepodge economies that (partially) cancel out and are abandoned in that state as there is little chance to salvage them.
My second system is on the fringe of the current expansion and it's around 100ly to the next systems that have feasible stocks for further expansion. It's not a big deal if you have a carrier. Those who don't might be factually excluded from the colonization gameplay loop though. Maybe it's hyperbole, but it was a thought that crossed my mind.
Too afraid to screw up my first system which I've been very careful with. But the second system has a rocky ice world - with an ammonia atmosphere. So that's a possibility
well, that fits only if you are thinking L-Pads - with the pre-determined Scientific- (Hightec) and Industry-Outposts as well as a Commercial- or Civil-Outpost around a Rocky Body you still should be able to get decent quantity-outputs for a Hub-System ?
Finished the mining outpost. Coriolis turned to .85 refinery. It has tritium, aluminum, steel, and titanium. ~2k supply of each.
"StationEconomy":"$economy_Refinery;", "StationEconomy_Localised":"Refinery", "StationEconomies":[ { "Name":"$economy_Refinery;", "Name_Localised":"Refinery", "Proportion":0.850000 } ]
"StationEconomy":"$economy_Refinery;", "StationEconomy_Localised":"Refinery", "StationEconomies":[ { "Name":"$economy_Refinery;", "Name_Localised":"Refinery", "Proportion":0.850000 } ]
I'm guessing the orbits around the planet will not affect the coriolis?
Ah right, so your concern is there's some systems that architects whipped together to do something, and now they're dysfunctional, but they're also ultimately abandoned by the architect who's either moved on or just doesn't do it anymore.... or words to that effect.
I think i get that... though equally, if these things don't change unless you build more stuff... if these systems are truly abandoned, then they should at least hold their original vision still. But yeah, I think I get what you're saying now.