News Development Update - 15th Jan

[dessnr]

For all of those that continue down this "autopilot" road. Just remember there was never any plans for an autopilot. Not to mention, I am surprised there was even an auto-docking computer, given that it's 15 times faster to dock by ourselves. I can dock my ships on a dime and still sink a beer with the other hand. To implement an autopilot, you might as well not play the game. The whole idea of Elite from what I can tell is to put in the hard labor and earn your dollars. Too many people in these forums are reflecting what we see in society today... LAZINESS! Do your job you lazy commanders! It's not like you're doing much really, besides moving a mouse and pressing keys on a keyboard.

As for Frontier Developments, as far as I am concerned, they are doing a great job. Whilst I am a little annoyed that they got rid of the idea of offline gaming, this game is Freelancer on steroids in my opinion and it's only going to get better. I have a few good ideas as do so many other people, but I know that they will fall on deaf ears given the high demand, so I will just bid FD a hello from Australia and say "keep up the great work".

By the way FD, I tried to explain this some time back but the forum wasn't functioning for me properly at that time. I am running a dual core E8400 at 3Ghz per core. Now normally the game wouldn't run too well if that were only the case but with the Sapphire HD 7790 it helps. But that isn't my secret weapon. My secret weapon is that I run a radio network and for that I have to have a mixer of course. The mixer I am running is the Behringer X1204USB and it takes a HUGE load off the CPU time, because it is it's own sound processor of course. The game runs better on my dual core due to this, than what it does on my quad core with later Nvidia tech for the vid card. Nice huh?

So I am running the game as smooth as silk on a dual core with 4 GIG mem, 7790 HD Sapphire and the mixer mentioned above. I have proven your "minimum requirements" to be futile. Muwhahahahahahahaha!

Enjoy peoples.

Edit: My name in game is Surplusonious should anybody want to shoot at me...

 

[DCello]

For all of those that continue down this "autopilot" road. Just remember there was never any plans for an autopilot. Not to mention, I am surprised there was even an auto-docking computer, given that it's 15 times faster to dock by ourselves. I can dock my ships on a dime and still sink a beer with the other hand. To implement an autopilot, you might as well not play the game. The whole idea of Elite from what I can tell is to put in the hard labor and earn your dollars. Too many people in these forums are reflecting what we see in society today... LAZINESS! Do your job you lazy commanders! It's not like you're doing much really, besides moving a mouse and pressing keys on a keyboard.

As for Frontier Developments, as far as I am concerned, they are doing a great job. Whilst I am a little annoyed that they got rid of the idea of offline gaming, this game is Freelancer on steroids in my opinion and it's only going to get better. I have a few good ideas as do so many other people, but I know that they will fall on deaf ears given the high demand, so I will just bid FD a hello from Australia and say "keep up the great work".

By the way FD, I tried to explain this some time back but the forum wasn't functioning for me properly at that time. I am running a dual core E8400 at 3Ghz per core. Now normally the game wouldn't run too well if that were only the case but with the Sapphire HD 7790 it helps. But that isn't my secret weapon. My secret weapon is that I run a radio network and for that I have to have a mixer of course. The mixer I am running is the Behringer X1204USB and it takes a HUGE load off the CPU time, because it is it's own sound processor of course. The game runs better on my dual core due to this, than what it does on my quad core with later Nvidia tech for the vid card. Nice huh?

So I am running the game as smooth as silk on a dual core with 4 GIG mem, 7790 HD Sapphire and the mixer mentioned above. I have proven your "minimum requirements" to be futile. Muwhahahahahahahaha!

Enjoy peoples.

Edit: My name in game is Surplusonious should anybody want to shoot at me...

Don't talk like you own the facts -- I'm glad you can dock without an issue, as can I and thousands of people. But a lot of other people can not, choose not, or can't be bothered to, and the autodock computer adds that option to them so the game is acessible to everyone. Same thing should be done with an autocruise computer.

 

[dessnr]

Don't talk like you own the facts -- I'm glad you can dock without an issue, as can I and thousands of people. But a lot of other people can not, choose not, or can't be bothered to, and the autodock computer adds that option to them so the game is acessible to everyone. Same thing should be done with an autocruise computer.

Don't talk like I own the facts? Take a look at your last 5 posts ye old self righteous one. The fact is, practice makes perfect. Stop being an apologist for lazy thinkers. You've just spent god knows how many hours complaining about no-brainer points in the game and you try talking down to me? You say you love the game, yet you scream about them recreating 30 year old ideas. Just go away granny, please. You're here to do nothing but bemoan something great under the guise of "do it my way!"

You can always go back to Freelancer.

 

[Trixi]

Yes, some people are lazy, and what's wrong with that? Cruising is much easier than docking, and we have docking computer, I don't see much logic in that. Adjusting supercruise is not challenging in any way, it's just repetitive. Couldn't they make system check before launch obligatory? And then we could call people wanting to turn if off lazy and advise them to play something easier. Let's go for it.
I can live without autopilot and I won't be angry at all if the devs won't consider making it. Nothing wrong in that, it's their game and I take it as they make it. But it is annoying that the "eleet" players always seem to be offended by sole idea of discussing any change of game not proposed by themselves, expert professional supporters and beta testers.

 

[DCello]

Don't talk like I own the facts? Take a look at your last 5 posts ye old self righteous one. The fact is, practice makes perfect. Stop being an apologist for lazy thinkers. You've just spent god knows how many hours complaining about no-brainer points in the game and you try talking down to me? You say you love the game, yet you scream about them recreating 30 year old ideas. Just go away granny, please. You're here to do nothing but bemoan something great under the guise of "do it my way!"

You can always go back to Freelancer.

Not stooping down to your level.

All the best.

 

[SupremacyNL]

Good job !!!

I normally don't complaint about things.
But i have two that are bugging me big time .
.
You have to balance the things that are in the game right now.
if y make all things you can do equally rewarding, you would have tons of things to do ..

If i want some progress in the game as it is .... i can only go to the communities market! BORING !!!!!!
If y go mining , Bounty hunting , exploring , missions or to a conflict zone the time you spend there is not progress at all if you compare it with the millions of credits you can make with the the communities market.

And secondly:
no working chat in a multyplayer game REALLY :S

 

[DCello]

Good job !!!

I normally don't complaint about things.
But i have two that are bugging me big time .
.
You have to balance the things that are in the game right now.
if y make all things you can do equally rewarding, you would have tons of things to do ..

If i want some progress in the game as it is .... i can only go to the communities market! BORING !!!!!!
If y go mining , Bounty hunting , exploring , missions or to a conflict zone the time you spend there is not progress at all if you compare it with the millions of credits you can make with the the communities market.

And secondly:
no working chat in a multyplayer game REALLY :S

Oh, yes XD that issue been's plaguing a lot of players since the game went Gamma, I hear. I've opened a ticket about it (as I'm sure did a lot of others), but no answer yet. Hopefully one of the next patches will fix it -- they *are* working on multiplayer stuff after all =P

 

[Trixi]

no working chat in a multyplayer game REALLY :S

I like the idea of NO CHAT, working or not. But instead of calling people disagreeing with that stupid and lazy, let me explain, why I like it. The whole idea of any simulator is to give the player an illusion of being someone else and somewhere else. In this case, a starship pilot in huge space. Nothing would shrug off this illusion easier than looking at hundreds of players speaking in their strange gamey language about farming, camping, exping and other gamey stuff, or about real world issues. Yes, the chat could be turned off, probably. But the temptation od turning it on once or twice a day would be probably irresistible and this would ruin my day. I think that devs looked at this in the same way, so they made no chat. Players who REALLY need chat to have fun are not losers, however, they can always use some dedicated chatting software while playing and be happy. So i think everyone can be satisfied with this now. Of course some advanced tool allowing communication between pilots in the same group is another thing, I'm sure such a thing will be essential part of "wings" update.

 

[dessnr]

Not stooping down to your level.

All the best.

You already did, with your arrogant and condescending comment toward me earlier.

 

[Minti2]

Guys please keep away from catty remarks to each other, its fine to argue points but no need to get personal, thank-you.

 

[Valeyard]

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[FS3DPete]

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[Avastar]

Does this mean you fixed the explorer's click-here-and-wait-30-seconds-and-repeat-for-multiple-hours mini game that we must play every time we return from out 1,000Ly routes?

bump.

Modifying the explorer's selling mini-game is essential for me to consider the game to be playable. Until then the game is complete broken and unplayable.

 

[Loskene]

Regarding the autopilot drama, why don't you just solve it the easy way and make your pointer soft-lock onto a targeted destination if you're aiming at it?

I mean we know why course drift happens, you can't aim perfectly dead-on at a target 100,000Ls away from you. Being off by the tiniest fraction of a degree would have you aiming millions of kilometres off target by the time you arrive. So course corrections are necessary every now and then to keep you going where you're going. But I find it hard to believe the ship's onboard computer has absolutely no authority to make these tiny course changes by itself as I approach a station, seeing as it already handles the throttle scaling when locked on to something.

Something like that won't change the game in any way, require any more or less attention from the player, interfere with any other game or flight mechanics, and relieve a lot of minor annoyance for everyone. I'm surprised it hasn't been done already.

But don't make us give up a cargo rack for some kind of 1950s vacuum tube spitting supercruise computer either, please?

 

[darshie76]

I am not sure exactly how the wings mechanic would work, when it is quite hard to find people in the same instance.

I was hoping that a major update would translate in considering to improve the plain basic ones that we have now, but I see that it is not the case.

The longer route planner is a nice feature; but I am looking forward in improvements in the overall structure of the missions. Not to make comparison, but other MMO when they release a free upgrade, they usually introduce new regions with quests. Since ED already give access to the whole galaxy; the only improvement may come from new missions/quest chains and major features introduced.

Will look forward to the expansions at this point; keep up the good work.

 

[darshie76]

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2. Never EVER read the OP, thus ensuring most, if not all, of your questions are answered in that very post. Remember - finding page 1 of a thread is a difficult and time consuming task.

4. Never forget that the companies who produce games are charities and should be treated as such. I have found that Ford are very keen to change the specifications of my vehicle after I have bought it and will often offer free upgrades for years after purchase.

5. Always refer to anyone defending the game or explaining the bleeding obvious , in a derogatory fashion as a FANBOI ! Always remember - the majority are never right, you know better than everyone else.



Hope this helps.

Enjoyable list; although, let me point out few things

2: there should be a mandatory lock on the buttons that let you post, unless you go trough the 40 pages of a topic. Once done, a multiple choice questionnaire will be put on screen, to be sure that you can actually post, because you understood exactly what everyone wrote and said.

4: Ford may love to change specs to your vehicles, but a video game company is a bit easier to handle. Ford cannot recall all the cars to change a system, they will release a new car, and you may sell the old one and buy the new one. A car is a physical item, that cannot be altered easily; while a software can be altered in a matter of seconds with a backspace press (if it will work, is another story of course). While Ford loves to do charity and let you choose the next feature on their car, a software company is actually eager to make changes, if they are logic, beneficial for the whole player base and reasonable.

5: Some defend the game by principle; you should know that you must have an opinion about something, to be on internet
Nobody want to cheer for the crappy horse at the race, right? so if I like something it MUST BE the best thing after sliced bread...or my world will fall apart, because I like something that is crappy (hence, that would mine my self confidence; it would be like to admit that I choose the wrong thing).
This happens in most of the cases where an individual is into "something" (a musical group, a game, a book, a movie, a tv series, a brand of deodorant, an electronic device/computer brand, and so on). I am happy thou, that most of the "funboy" are usually easy to identify and to avoid, which leave space to serious and adult conversation, about something that we all love, without being obsessed about it.

BTW, think about flies and poo....millions of flies CAN'T be wrong, it must be delicious, because the majority is always right

 

[wstephenson]

Darshie76: there are inaccessible regions of the galaxy "reserved for future expansion" which I understand will be used for the kind of content expansion you know from MMOs.

Mechanics to be worked on are (not a complete list) matchmaking and group comms (1.1), Wings (1.2) and "overhauling missions so we're happy with them" (after 1.2? Although Wings will adapt missions somewhat).

 

[darshie76]

Good job !!!

I normally don't complaint about things.
But i have two that are bugging me big time .
.
You have to balance the things that are in the game right now.
if y make all things you can do equally rewarding, you would have tons of things to do ..

If i want some progress in the game as it is .... i can only go to the communities market! BORING !!!!!!
If y go mining , Bounty hunting , exploring , missions or to a conflict zone the time you spend there is not progress at all if you compare it with the millions of credits you can make with the the communities market.

And secondly:
no working chat in a multyplayer game REALLY :S

Chat is important to coordinate attacks and such; but if it is so important, there are a ton of external programs used just for chat communication. I know, it is another thing to set up, but this is what many people used in many other MMO, so at least it is reliable.

Sadly the game itself came up with such limitations: each "career" is a placeholder for future changes; you get the basics, which means that there is imbalance. Traders will always make a ton of money, because the original game was designed around that concept. ED is a derivative of Elite, so it is natural that the main activity is trading (and it was also the first thing that was implemented in ED, so had more time to be baked).
Exploring is also rewarding; once you get something different from a sidewinder. Tons of good credits, with ease; although the logic behind how the price is calculated is not exposed to you; so you never know how much your effort is worth....you may explore for 30 minutes a system, to the last rock, and make 1200, while you just scan the sun of a system and make 18K.

Some says that mining also is a good deal; but it takes time, is tedious (some say relaxing), and you are a sitting duck for pirates and mad players that does nothing but PK for fun. Some call it the "dangerous" part of ED; I call it rushed implementation; just a matter of personal opinions.

I may suggest you to start trading, get a nice ship, and go explore or bounty kill; which is the progression that I found more enjoyable in this game so far. In the meantime that we wait that ED will stop to be Elite 4.1 and will deliver the original vision, with the expansions planned for who knows when.

 

[Jerakeen]

The keyboard is mightier than the neg-rep button

You're right, but a neg rep button doesn't expand the thread to 35 pages of "yes it is" "no it isn't" "you're a fool" "no, you're a fool" posts and might leave just the relevant and interesting posts.

 

[darshie76]

Darshie76: there are inaccessible regions of the galaxy "reserved for future expansion" which I understand will be used for the kind of content expansion you know from MMOs.

Mechanics to be worked on are (not a complete list) matchmaking and group comms (1.1), Wings (1.2) and "overhauling missions so we're happy with them" (after 1.2? Although Wings will adapt missions somewhat).

True; they are peripherals, so you don't get the feeling of hitting a wall, when you reach the borders of the galaxy. Although let's face the truth: nobody will ever visit 400B stars, so even if half the galaxy is not there, few would notice it. in other games the play area is "smaller", but consider that space has few planets, rocks to mine and stars, in a sector that is incredibly big; while a single map in a regular MMO is full of quests and stuff to do, so the scale cannot be compared easily, due to the different density of each area.

I look forward to join in a group with other players; so far the ED experience has been closer to my solo experience in my room, like when I was 13 We will have to wait for a bit before we can get to the point where we meet on a station, we set up a group and we all take off, navigate to a place, do something and head back. Even more time before we can actually join a carrier and travel with it, as a real group. But who knows...