Is it 1 for starport, 1 for orbital outpost, 1 for planetary outpost and 1 for the planetary city? Or how are these 4 layouts distributed?
Development Update 3 - August
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Which colour scheme a station uses seems to be based on the station type, at least judging from the way they phrased it
Glad to see your considering social spaces for mega ships and such. Might I suggest that one such social space be in one of the domed green spaces? Be nice for Commanders and NPC's to walk among gardens and trees, with perhaps the odd concession here or there to buy consumables (sandwiches, drinks) while on their visit?? Incidentally, that might also be an idea for the large green spaces in the rings of many a station!! Just a thought!!Greetings Commanders,
As we reach the end of the month, we are delighted to share our latest development update with you.
Issue Tracker
To kick things off we would like to update you on the key issues as voted for by our community on the Issue Tracker. Remember you can visit the Issue Tracker any time to vote for your top issues or make a report.
1. Lighting and Illumination in Odyssey
Since Odyssey’s launch we’ve made a large number of updates to in-game lighting to bring the experience more in line with Commander expectations. These changes included relighting ship cockpits, improving all materials and overhauling star light and station exteriors, to call out just a few.
Following the major changes in Update 6 we’ve now, based on your feedback, made additional changes to areas such as Fleet Carriers and exterior station lighting which will be deployed in Update 7.
Whilst we recognise that some Commanders may continue to have feedback around how the game is lit we feel that for the purposes of aiding further development this issue tracker entry, whilst still holding a number of votes, is no longer providing us actionable feedback to improve the game, with recent contributions unrelated to the specifics of the original report.
We will therefore mark this issue as fixed following the update, freeing up those votes to contribute to other issues in issue tracker. Of course if you observe any specific instances of poor lighting, please open a new issue tracker entry giving specific feedback.
2. Degraded terrain textures compared to Horizons
We’ve been monitoring your feedback following Update 6 and we are now satisfied that this issue has been largely resolved. This item will be marked as fixed with the final changes set to arrive in Update 7 - if you see specific instances please contribute to the issue tracker giving specific feedback.
3. FPS performance in Odyssey
Further improvements have been made in this area including optimisations to the Navmesh, lighting system, terrain, NPCs, glass shaders and scatter rock LODs. Our core code team is making good progress on more substantial optimisations, a number of which we expect to be included in Update 8.
4. Nothing to do on long shuttle rides
Update 7 will provide the opportunity for players to redirect Apex shuttles in transit, avoiding instances of players feeling trapped into long journeys. We will look to mark this issue as fixed in line with Update 7, freeing up your votes to contribute to other issues.
5. Invincible Thargoid Heart
We have identified a cause and are deploying a fix for this issue in Update 7, to ensure the fix has worked as intended, we will leave this issue open for a time. We would like to thank you for your patience with this issue and for your support in helping us to resolve it.
6. Frame Rate Drops post update 5
Update 7 will include changes to the games Navmesh which we believe resolves any potential performance impact from update 5. We will therefore be marking this issue as fixed following the release of Update 7 whilst retaining our wider focus on improving Odyssey’s performance.
The following issues will also be resolved in Update 7:
In addition to Odyssey Update 7 we’re pleased to confirm that a number of these fixes and QoL improvements will be deployed to Horizons players on both PC and console in September – we will of course share full patch notes for both around release.
- NHSS signals in Odyssey are Empty
- Fleet Carrier and Module costs not included in overall wealth
- Support missions are not widely available
- Missions and Rewards are not shared with the team
- A previously present codex entry is now missing
- Stolen tritium cannot be donated into a fleet carrier's fuel depot
- Too much CC returned when systems revolt.
- Mission Reward Material Missing
- Deposit fragments stuck inside the rock
- Unable to interact with Comms Panel in head look
- Some rock scatter only visual in right eye in VR
- Seeker and Packhound Missiles do double damage against shields
- Choosing +Influence reward from missions gives no influence
- CZ captain defence incorrectly rewards credit bonds for the enemy faction
Upcoming Updates and Content
Please note: These are at varying stages of progress. This is not an exhaustive list of everything that is being considered. They are not final, so they are subject to change. We will keep you updated with news and details as they progress, and we expect the content to release over the coming few updates. With that said, here’s a look at just some of the features and content in consideration, to go alongside the other development work required for future updates.
The following items are planned to be included in Update 7 which is scheduled for mid-September:
Conflict Zone Anti-Air Defence and Dogfighting
Since the launch of Odyssey, many brave Commanders have dropped into Odyssey’s Conflict Zones to support their chosen faction in ongoing conflicts throughout the bubble. With Update 7 we’re taking Conflict Zones to the next level by rebalancing the sphere of combat, increasing the risk for airborne Commanders and introducing new gameplay for those on the ground.
Each active Conflict Zone will have new anti-air turrets to defend against airborne attack. Commanders in the air will need to work with those on the ground to disable them. In addition, AI ships will also be deployed to Conflict Zones for the first time, allowing Commanders to experience exhilarating in-atmosphere dogfights as the battle rages below.
You can see both of these in action in the video below:
Enforcer units coming to Conflict Zones
Following the deployment of Enforcer units to Odyssey’s military installations, we’ll be introducing rocket launcher equipped infantry to active Conflict Zones, increasing the risk for any Commanders hoping to pick off easy prey from the comfort of their SRV.
New Social Hub styles
These screenshots show some of the variation added for Update 7, making station interiors more clearly linked to their installation type. Changes include elements such as swapping out railings with alternatives, replacing crates and planters with other props to better suit the theme, using different partitions and wall pieces, swapping beams and roof sections, and adding pipes or more industrial looking geometry.
In addition, wealthy services and high tech stations now show less rubbish and junk on the floors, while the agricultural, industrial and asteroid stations are progressively more untidy.
Apex Redirect
You’ll soon be able to redirect your Apex shuttle mid-flight. Our UI team have been hard at work to make this a seamless experience with redirection options from the Navigation list, Galaxy and System Maps
Increased stored modules and bookmarks
Stored module and Bookmark limits will be increased from their previous limits to 200. We are pleased to be able to deliver this community request.
AMD Fidelity FX CAS
By popular demand, AMD Fidelity FX CAS will be reintroduced as an option in Update 7. This is mutually exclusive to FSR which has its own integrated RCAS system.
Here is a selection of the other features currently in development. As mentioned above, this is not an exhaustive list of everything that is being considered. They are not final, so they are subject to change. As we get closer to their release we will announce which of these will be included in each Update:
Horizons Cosmetics in Odyssey
Our character team have been hard at work overhauling Horizon’s flight suit cosmetics to make them compatible with Odyssey’s EVA suits. While we still have a little way still to go, you can see some of the results which we plan to bring to the game soon, below.
Four Player Multicrew
We’re pleased to share that we are making great progress on this feature, with a number of ships now in test with four Commanders on the bridge. More details will be released closer to release.
New Odyssey Engineers in Colonia
We’d like to introduce Rosa Dayette, one of Odyssey’s upcoming new Engineers based out in Colonia.
Born and raised in a starport within a feudalist system, Rosa had few obvious skills in her youth. She was an average student, suffered from stage fright and found athletic competition dull. But she did have a passion for mechanical things, fascinated by the constant stream of ships outside her apartment window. With a combination of donated, swapped and refurbished tools, she began to tinker on the gadgets in her home, looking to reverse engineer them to learn how the various components work.
Her natural talent blossomed, and over time she started working on her neighbour's technology, patching up suits or manual equipment. This became helping out friends of friends, then distant acquaintances; as Rosa approached adulthood people from across the station would turn up at her door with things to fix. Her family apartment eventually resembled a workshop.
And yet she would rarely charge people credits for her time. Her enjoyment of the work and tendency to trade skills led her to accept favours instead of credits. A fixed datapad in exchange for homecooked meals. An upgraded power coupling for free apartment cleaning. Word of Rosa's talents reached a local businessman who operated a suit supply store. An experienced mechanic himself, he offered Rosa an opportunity to help out at his shop in return for some second-hand suits, weapons and other equipment. Rosa accepted, drawn by the chance to examine far more interesting gear than the home appliances and commercial technology she was used to.
After many happy years of this arrangement, her mentor passed away. What little he had to bequeath was given to Rosa, along with a hand-written note asking Rosa to leave the starport and pursue her dream of a full workshop. Rosa did so, announcing to her friends that she would seek employment with an engineer. As word spread throughout the community, a collection was held to fund this new venture; the many Rosa had helped so selflessly, for so long, gladly contributed. To Rosa's astonishment, it was just enough to establish her own workshop in Colonia.
Rosa found her local celebrity discomforting, having felt that helping the community was a responsibility rather than something notable. Yet deep down she recognises that she could have made a comfortable living from her talents, but chose to remain true to her principles. Now she enjoys total autonomy in a new community, excited by the opportunity while missing her friends dearly.
Mission feature extensions
Work is still ongoing to expand mission features for Odyssey with the aim to increase mission diversity and create stronger links between the in-cockpit and on foot gameplay. We hope to share more on this soon.
Megaship Social Spaces
Last but not least, we’re excited to share that work is now underway to bring social spaces to Megaships. This will allow us to position a base for on-foot services, such as Vista Genomics and Pioneer Supplies, anywhere in the galaxy.
As with previous development updates, what we’ve shared today is just a snapshot of what we’re working on. We will be sharing more details on the content mentioned above, further bug fixes, performance improvements and of course more as-yet-unannounced content in further monthly development updates and across our other channels.
Thank you as always for your continued feedback and support.
Arf
I don't know if you get much thanks for the work your all doing in these trying times, but can I thank you for both Horizons and Odyssey?
Respectfully Yours, R
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I find the comments in the OP around the lighting particularly disheartening - if the game is virtually unchanged in update 7 apart from FC lighting (I have a fair idea what this is about... the magic light sources on the landing pads presumably?) and station exteriors (noticed some glitches around those, but not the biggest issue I had in mind when it comes to lighting) that means that cockpits, asteroid belt god ray flickering, ship light brightness, dynamic contrast/lighting glitches, weird shadows cast or missing, lighting in concourses and settlements, game being too bright in some areas, and still too dark in others... just from the top of my head, are all by design then? I feel the artistic direction the game's taking is on a rather different trajectory compared to what I loved about Horizons.
Let's hope I'm wrong and they'll sneak in a few surprises.
And about those CZ updates - they sound great on paper (if you play with others that is) though it'll be interesting how this will impact performance. Strange to make the worst performing areas even more busy before addressing existing performance issues unless they're significant enough in this patch that it works out well. We'll see in a few weeks I guess.
Let's hope I'm wrong and they'll sneak in a few surprises.
And about those CZ updates - they sound great on paper (if you play with others that is) though it'll be interesting how this will impact performance. Strange to make the worst performing areas even more busy before addressing existing performance issues unless they're significant enough in this patch that it works out well. We'll see in a few weeks I guess.
That would require detailed models for those domes, and fully redesigning them, as well as adding them to all of the landable megaships. Not gonna happen.
PLAYERS: We want something to do during long shuttle rides
FDEV: You can divert your shuttle back to where you came from.
PLAYERS: But that's not what we -
FDEV: - Resolved.
I still think that APEX shuttles shouldn't stop flying if you decide to do CQC while they're going. Give us a big CQC button and an alert when the APEX reaches its destination and CQC could be a great time-waster during transit. Kill two birds with one stone.
This, or really just let the taxi travel while you aren't loaded in, same thing really.
10 PRINT "Is it in the patch notes?"; Input A$
20 IF A$="YES" THEN GOTO 40
30 IF A$="NO" THEN GOTO 40
40 PRINT A$
50 PRINT "Congratulations, you answered your own question"
60 PRINT "Do you need to ask again?";INPUT B$
70 IF B$="YES" THEN GOTO 10
80 IF B$="NO" THEN GOTO 90
90 PRINT "o7";END
Well we don't have patch notes yet do we
Good point.
One solution could be to force players to head back to their ships if a carrier is jumping, with an enforced fade-to-black for commanders who run down the clock.
A similar fade is currently used (optionally) at the end of surface conflict zones, (non-optionally) when loitering in a turbolift, or even when transferring to the SRV from the ship.
Apex won't take you to a fleet carrier, so unlike starports, everyone on a carrier should have a personal ship on hand to be hustled off to.
This would mean, at the moment of the jump, there's no social space to worry about, just commanders neatly stowed in their ships as happens currently.
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So nothing about fixing the galmap so it's working when you're closer to the center of the galaxy? I'd like to be able to play Odyssey in my exploration ship near SagA*. Galmap hangs when I plot routes, but it works fine in Horizons, so... Odyssey is not much of an odyssey experience to me unless that works.
This new one is based in Colonia, which doesn’t have any on foot engineers. At least now players based out there won’t have to make the 22500 light year trip back to the bubble to upgrade their suits and guns.
Absolutely this.
FDev, you still have some goodwill. I am sure there are some players willing to test for you if you do not subject them to grind and give free engineering unlocks and mats. If you release this "improvement" with too many game breaking bugs and crashes, your words re: "improvements" will be rendered more meaningless.
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Can we have social spaces on fleet carriers?
"No we'll put them on megaships though.. you'll like that won't ya!? eyyyyy"
Dude, that's seriously not what anyone asked for, we all asked for them on Carriers..
"Yeah but MEGASHIPS... ammiright??!!!!"
Look.. we'll take it, it's better than nothing .. but seriously dude, who asked you for this?
"shhhhhhh... M-e-g-a-s-h-i-p-s"
"No we'll put them on megaships though.. you'll like that won't ya!? eyyyyy"
Dude, that's seriously not what anyone asked for, we all asked for them on Carriers..
"Yeah but MEGASHIPS... ammiright??!!!!"
Look.. we'll take it, it's better than nothing .. but seriously dude, who asked you for this?
"shhhhhhh... M-e-g-a-s-h-i-p-s"
Maybe FD are thinking of adding a prison break mechanic down the line if it's more than just set dressing
So I'm still not going to be able to play after 4 months because there just isn't the FPS for VR.
Lol, Hmmm, while I agree with much that you've said here, can I suggest something? Try to be 'diplomatic'? "Not gonna happen" is just a tad rude!!
Respectfully Yours, R