Did you agree to in-game advertising?

[MrVibrating]

Loathe it or hate it, a world without advertising would be positively Soviet. One brand of cigarettes, one brand of pickles, posters of the Dear Leader in place of chewing gum adverts and stampedes anytime a supermarket gets a delivery of toothbrushes.

I wanna see ads for everything from footwear to Star Citizen... games, products, movies, charity drives, music, books, newspapers and magazines.. the whole commercial universe represented in game. Keep it artistically consistent with the gameworld and i'm happy. Just imagine the resources big corporates could bring to bear - Google, Microsoft and Facebook competing to better each other's in-game offerings.. mapping and navigation services, social media.. the game could become a nexus for leading innovators...

 

[Armour]

play the man? consider the person not the ball, i said

I think we have crossed wires on this bit. I meant it in the sense that I consider the arguments on their merits and try to argue against the argument with some reason, i.e. playing the ball, rather than concentrating on who is making the argument and their flaws., i.e. playing the man.

based on what we actually know, i think a good part of this discussion comes down to trust

It doesn't matter who is in the position of developer and how trustworthy they may be, it's more to do with how advertising is done, and how it has worked (or failed to work) in the past. Advertisers want us to see their advertising, ideally in a way we can't escape easily. They know that shoving it down our throats is a hindrance to their objectives. However, they still won't want to be jammed in amongst billboards for Slurm or Weylan-Yutani or a million other fictional brands that should by rights exist somewhere in the populated bit of the galaxy in-game. To that end, they will do what they always do, and you'll end up seeing the same few brands over and over again, possibly even with some anachronistic products. That is, if advertising becomes a thing. It might not. If so, great. And they may do it in a way that doesn't look dumb. If so, even greater. But I don't hold out a lot of hope for the ideal situation.

And I get that FD are in control, we are just passengers, but we have a forum for a reason. So let's use it to debate stuff that might help or hinder the future of the game - the devs do sometimes happen upon our posts, after all. It can't hurt. I prefer this kind of debate than complaining about how boring this game is because I can't build castles, how bad the networking is or how slow the downloads are from my great ISP "TwoTinCansAndAPieceOfString Ltd"...you get the idea.

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Loathe it or hate it, a world without advertising would be positively Soviet. One brand of cigarettes, one brand of pickles, posters of the Dear Leader in place of chewing gum adverts and stampedes anytime a supermarket gets a delivery of toothbrushes.

Yeah, but that's what usually ends up happening in games with in-game ads. Whichever widget brand that buys in becomes the defacto type of widget, and we end up with exactly what you don't want.

 

[Marak]

I thought for a long time that the ads at the stations could easily become real ad sales points to finance the game.

If it were my call, I'd make the game free and sell advertising for profit.

More users, more fun, more revenue for FD

A win all around as long as they didn't overdue placement and kept it OUT of the ships and only at stations like the ones for the ship builders.

Awesome idea.

They make more money, invest more in development and hosting capability, they get more users, they sell more ads, they hire more devs, they improve the game, get more money, invest more...

You get the idea

This^^

I was in the alpha so I probably did agree to IG advertising.

I'm surprised that the amount of ficticious advertising in the game is so subtle... I'd imagine, the way advertising is going now, we'd get popups everytime we enter a station!

No promlem with suspending disbelief here...

 

[DarkWalker]

Did you agree to product placement in the last film you watched? Probably not...but I'm guessing you still saw it through to the end.

Yep, I see it to the end. Though if the product placement was in any way intrusive (which, for me, is kinda required for me to even remember if they were shown, as I tend to simply tune product placement off) then I will consciously avoid that brand the next couple times I'm purchasing a similar product, and for the next couple few movies from the same franchise/producer I will wait for a cheap (likely Netflix) way of watching them instead of going to a cinema.

I have no issue with product placement per see. But I have a huge issue with product placement that detracts from the movie I paid to watch.

 

[Anarky]

Loathe it or hate it, a world without advertising would be positively Soviet. One brand of cigarettes, one brand of pickles, posters of the Dear Leader in place of chewing gum adverts and stampedes anytime a supermarket gets a delivery of toothbrushes.

I wanna see ads for everything from footwear to Star Citizen... games, products, movies, charity drives, music, books, newspapers and magazines.. the whole commercial universe represented in game. Keep it artistically consistent with the gameworld and i'm happy. Just imagine the resources big corporates could bring to bear - Google, Microsoft and Facebook competing to better each other's in-game offerings.. mapping and navigation services, social media.. the game could become a nexus for leading innovators...

The thought of this ingame makes me sick. Why do you think adblock is so popular? Because people don't like adverts. We put up with them. Everyday. So it's understandable if people are against them in video games, what should be a safe form of escapism.

And bringing in Cold War concepts of communism as an argument for in-game advertisements is absolutely ridiculous. I realise this game attracts an older audience, but get a grip man. This is the 21st century.

Anyway, I came in to say the Nvidia ad is back and ruining my game

 

[Jorlin]

Loathe it or hate it, a world without advertising would be positively Soviet. One brand of cigarettes, one brand of pickles, posters of the Dear Leader in place of chewing gum adverts and stampedes anytime a supermarket gets a delivery of toothbrushes.

I wanna see ads for everything from footwear to Star Citizen... games, products, movies, charity drives, music, books, newspapers and magazines.. the whole commercial universe represented in game. Keep it artistically consistent with the gameworld and i'm happy. Just imagine the resources big corporates could bring to bear - Google, Microsoft and Facebook competing to better each other's in-game offerings.. mapping and navigation services, social media.. the game could become a nexus for leading innovators...

communism doesn't work because it doesn't take the worst human instincts into account.
capitalism works because it is built on those

 

[Armour]

communism doesn't work because it doesn't take the worst human instincts into account.
capitalism works because it is built on those

What a transparent attempt to steer the debate down a path that is sure to get the thread shut down.

(edit: should have read the disclaimer in your sig, I guess. It is after 21:00 GMT, after all.)

 

[Jorlin]

What a transparent attempt to steer the debate down a path that is sure to get the thread shut down.

ooops, sorry.
not my intention

 

[Sanderson]

I wish they'd use real world ads and change out the stock ones regularly. Why not? Our lives are full of ads all over the place. even in the toilet at some places (seriously) so why not? By now we all have learned to tune out what we don't want to see or at least relegate it to the background noise.

If anything, it would contribute to "immersion" IMO, I'd expect ads or "billboards" all over the place at a station or platform and would treat them accordingly in-game. Who cares if there's an nVidia ad while my ship aligns for outfitting? So what if there's a Coke or Pepsi (Mountain Dew for my hillbilly friends) holograms outside Abe's namesake as I land?

Personally, I think product placements in a game or movie connects the player to the game and adds immersion. Blade Runner would be a good example here I think, I connected to the film as a kid because of the product placement, it provided me with a link to movie. Who's to say in a thousand years or so nVidia isn't a corporate juggernaut spread across the galaxy? We may still be drinking Pepsi in a dozen centuries. NewEgg might still be in business too, not to mention Google. I can browse web pages and not even notice the ads and if the Titan scavenger hunt is a sign of things to come, count me in.

To be honest, I hope they integrate a ad supported in-ship web browser and media player. I' love to park by some Blue neutron star and watch Star Wars again in the starlight.

But, what I really think is that this is all blown out of proportion and should of been left at the glue factory with the rest of the dead horses.

 

[OillyRag]

I realise this game attracts an older audience, but get a grip man. This is the 21st century.
Anyway, I came in to say the Nvidia ad is back and ruining my game

Its one galnet article, i think you should get a grip.