DLC : Free vs Paid for.

I guess I should have picked a different example. Let's say your friends went to the pub, but you stayed at home drinking cheap liquor from a brown bag.
Then you wouldn't have met your wife! Hence - buy DLC :)

(quite relevant in my country, where 0,4 liter of beer cost £7 on a pub)

Oi! That's how my first child was conceived, and now I have a wonderful family!

(just kidding! ... Well about the first part anyway)
 
Im pretty sure this game will handle DLC like how guild wars 2 has handled it which is basically make it free. Granted expansion packs are questionable but like planet landing/additional weapons/ships being released as DLC just seems completely counter productive to this game all together.
 
This is not a problem.

If you do not have the planetary landing DLC it means that your ship has not been modified for atmospheric flight.
If you do not have the EVA DLC, your ship does not have an airlock.
If you do not have the walking around stations DLC, you do not have clearance to take advantage of the station facilities.
And so on.

There will always be an in game reason why you cannot do any of the DLC you do not have.
 
I've never encountered this "problem" in the huge number of games I've played that had paid expansions. The whole point of an expansion is to give us something new. If you can't afford, or refuse to pay for it, you don't get it. In terms of the impact to the player, it's little different to choosing to buy a game if you want to play with friends who already own that game.

Except, if you don't choose to buy the expansion, you still get to play the game and only get blocked from certain elements of it. But, see, I've never come across this. An MMORPG releases an expansion and all my friends who wanted to play the game bought the expansion. Because we all wanted to try out the new content. When I stopped playing that MMORPG, I no longer bought new expansions.

It's so patently simple I don't really get the idea that anyone would bother to conjure up the imagined scenario where this is a problem with paid expansions. Unless they don't have any money. Or they aren't interested in the new content. The former is not FD's fault. The latter makes the whole topic redundant. It's you who doesn't want to try the new content, you are the one blocking yourself, not anything or anyone else. And why would you be bothered that you can't join your friends if you don't want to do what they're doing?

When I try to visualise this problem in a diagram, all I keep seeing is a big circular flow chart and the "problem" is off to the side in a little box, not connected at all to how things actually are in the real world.
 
Seems to me like their is a very simple solution to this entire conundrum. The "EVA" update(that lets you walk around your ship, board other players, spacewalk etc) is free, but the planetary landing and station interior updates aren't. Yes, it really is that simple. Think about it.

What does it mean? All instancing problems are solved, because anyone you meet in space WILL at the very least have the EVA module. If you purchase the station interior Module and go for a stroll inside a station you will only meet people who have the Station module. Same for planetary excursions. It even fits in with the canon(sort of) because you could say that pilots need to purchase a station permit to leave their ships whilst docked, and a planetary flight certificate for planetary landings.

It does mean that you won't be able to say, explore planets with a friend who doesn't have the expansion, but that friend doesn't miss out on ANYTHING that's part of the core game-Space stuff.

This method has the additional advantage of giving FD the opportunity to beta test the FPS engine before wide scale deployment, which would be difficult if you had to buy it, and FD could offset the cost of development of the EVA module by giving people more paid for cosmetic interior items to decorate their ships with.


IMO this is the best way to do expansions, but feel free to shoot it full of holes.
 
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Why worry about something that is out of your control (ED development)? Not one of the expansions is even available to buy yet!

The realities (gating) of the add-ons are quite simple:
  1. If you buy ED, you get to play ED. Those that don't buy, don't play
  2. If you buy Planetary Landings, you get to land on planets & do all the stuff involved. Those that don't buy can't buy in-game "Atmospheric Shielding", and will burn up in "atmosphere" (some planets may not have atmosphere, so the name may be different) or stay in orbit and/or fly somewhere else.
  3. If you buy Walking In Stations, you get to walk in the stations & do all the stuff involved. Those that don't buy, can't.
  4. If you buy Ship Boarding & EVA, you get to EVA, board other ships & do all the stuff involved. Those that don't buy, can't - if you get boarded you can defend yourself (see below).
Not once has "Walking In My Own Ship" been announced as a planned expansion/paid-for-DLC; therefore it will be a free update, so some of your unnecessary worrying can be calmed.

If you're being boarded and your mates' haven't bought the DLC & can't help you, tough! For a non-subscription game they're being cheap tbh. It doesn't stop them destroying the boarders' empty ships though...

If your mates' leave you to land on planets and/or walk in stations, while you have to 'stay behind' because you haven't bought the DLC, then tough! You're too cheap (again, it's a non-sub game), and your mates aren't real mates for leaving you behind - find better ones.

I think that about covers it :)

Looking forward to buying the DLC/expansions myself, as I missed out on Lifetime-Pass by 2 days! :D

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How would that work? Boarding would presumably be part of the walking-inside-your-ship update, but if you don't have that expansion and, as a result, can't ever move from your cockpit; how will you defend yourself- or do anything at all- against the boarders?
Your presumption is incorrect. "Ship Boarding & EVA" is a planned expansion/DLC, "Walking In Your Own Ship" isn't.
 
...when the EVA DLC is released...

Dear Robert,

would you be so kind as to be more careful in your postings in future?

All I can say is that it's a good job that my cup of coffee was only warm when I dropped it into my lap in sheer delighted excitement.

Kind regards etc,
H
 
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