Only if none of them are pledged.
Do Solo/ Co-op Players have a Future in Elite?
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Only if none of them are pledged.
What on earth are talking about? Everyone who plays the game has spent money on it. The people that will spend the most money on it are new players, buying the game. What do SJWs have to do with anything?
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Sounds like everyone wants hardcore PP action.
What if they code those PP modules to only be active in PP and ONLY when you are with that particular power and as soon as you sign out of a Power and into another you lose that module completely
Hardcore enough for that? They are PP modules offered by specific powers to be used with them, not against them or for any other action.
It probably wont change even though that currently makes no sense at all, as much as maintaining pirate held goods as illegal and non returnable.
What if they code those PP modules to only be active in PP and ONLY when you are with that particular power and as soon as you sign out of a Power and into another you lose that module completely
Hardcore enough for that? They are PP modules offered by specific powers to be used with them, not against them or for any other action.
It probably wont change even though that currently makes no sense at all, as much as maintaining pirate held goods as illegal and non returnable.
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It's a fantasy. What "they" are really after is the destruction of the mode system so "they" can get fish for the barrel, period. Has nothing to do with PP in particular, it's just a smokescreen.
Give it a month or two (at best) after it's actually implemented, and we'll see whining on the forums about the BGS and everything else all over again. Bank on it.
I used to believe that, as well as a "live and let live" policy.
Now I'm at the point where my patience has run its course. Sick and tired of all these losers who whine about how "disadvantaged" they are when they've an entire sandbox to play in (Open) as opposed to PvE players who are relegated to PG's/Solo simply because FD didn't implement a flagging system for PvP like almost every other game out there has. "Oh, booohooo It's soooooooo unfair that someone can use the game to attack me indirectly but i can't face-blast them with lazorz!!!"
Seriously, it's so childish and pathetic for a group of people who claim to be "all that, and a bag of chips". Talk about "gitting gud", indeed.
Yep I agree, and its a smart maneuver though for them to use the PP angle as a stepping stone toward that full blown fish bowl state.
The PVP crews know how ezpz it was to entrance them all into spending resources for CQC, and they know they can expand on that, one step at a time,
IDK, you look rather conspiratorial with your goggles and leather jacket and... big ears. They're well suited to conspiracy work to help you collect data for your movement's agenda.
Man, I could barely type that, it's such a stupid idea even in jest. >____> Even if people have the inclination for a "conspiracy", then one revolving around how best to pretend to be a spaceman seems like a massive waste of time and resources, and you'd be one of the last I'd think would be involved in a bunch of gradeschool internet tactics. You've been a rational poster any time we've spoken and until you start yelling at the sky in secret code Ima keep you on my goodguy list.
Aye, and the sad part is they really haven't seen the PvE community really mobilize and rally yet. If they keep it up... they definitely will.
Christmas is coming. Until we see the shape of a post-Beyond ED...it's all just nonsense.
Someone didn't get the memo on this "suggestion", it should never have been made. The timing of it is just absurd.
Lessons learned...hopefully.
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I appreciate your vote of confidence. I can be extremely sneaky, when I want to, but my activities are the forums are not one of the places I choose to exercise those skills. >:3 I'm just some otterfox that wants Elite to the be the best game it can be, and isn't afraid to share my thoughts and ideas on how to work towards that end.
Hopefully. I do agree that PP as it stands is total crap. It should have never been released in its current state. I also agree that the game as it was released was destined for division in the community, too.
What I'm not in agreement with is all the divisive tactics blaming the PvE community for the game's failures. That's on FD, people. PLEASE quit blaming the customers and trying to add punitive measures for those who've invested as equally as you have in this game. (i.e., PG/Solo) I won't stand idly by as some in the PvP community use their lecherous and vitriolic hate-speech against the PvE community just so they can continue to aim for "what should have been". Lots of things "should have been". Like a proper flagging system. It never happened. No one "got what they wanted" with this gig, fellas.
Everyone "lost" something with the way this game was released.
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I mean, the modules are fun but they aren't all that. I'm not looking at the changes and rubbing my hands together for some modules. I just really and truly think that moving it to Open will build a community. PP has "good bones" it just needs to be more dynamic, which they are working towards.
I'm not looking for "fish." I'm looking for new friends and community, and healthy rivalry. Also looking forward to another activity to enjoy with my friends.
That's what it's about to me, anyway.
I vote that the PVE community simply sit back and relax and let things unfold under the kookoo (alt spelling reqd) clock that ED is currently ticking from.
If the decision makers are that daft to continue the PVP agenda past PP, then I say allow it to ripen all the way into a ED-fortnite edition. Then, post this fiasco you'll see deep game-changing change, from deep within.
If it comes to that end, the PVPers will have served as the perfect tool ED really needed. Keep in mind, tools don't realize they are, tools P...
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The PP toys should probably be moved out of PP and into other collection avenues to kill off the Mercenary Toy Circuit entirely, and leave 5th columning to people who would be doing it intentionally for political reasons, and not accidentally because they found the easiest way to get packhounds. That should I think happen no matter what direction PP takes as far as modality, as that has been unhealthy for its existence since day one.
That's great. But how many cmdrs that are currently choosing to play PP outside of open mode are going to be all that friendly being forced/ cattle prodded to play in a mode that they chose not to?
These cmdrs chose solo for reasons PVPers just cannot grasp.
PVEers grasp the difference between AI and non AI interaction at its core, leave alone the gta-5 public lobby like experience most (of course not all) PVPers bring and choose to have nothing to do with it.
I just cant imagine ever considering that the gta5 public lobby can equate itself to a healthy vibrant community that you are desiring. PVErs know, through and through, that player killing player does not or ever will
foster what a PVEr considers a functional community vibration.
Enter a hard nosed/red necked bikers bar and youll find PVP minded personalities. They consider their best friends the very ones they have on regular occasion blood spewing brawls with.
Bob might even take it personally if he's not moderately insulted either physically or psychologically in any one day by his bros
Enter a café in say West Vancouver BC and observe. I can guarantee you, that any and all of the above activity and mentality will not be perceived in any positive regard.
Now imagine forcing either one to behave and enjoy themselves in the other's environment. Kinda silly huh?
The only new friends truly of like mindedness youll find would be the ones already choosing to play in open and therefore, no pushing anyone into open from solo will help to that end much if at all.
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Two questions:
1) How many CMDRs do you think there are that participate in powerplay exclusively in open, beyond just grabbing modules?
2) For the sake of getting the full picture, if "hard nosed/red necked bikers" epitomize the open / PvP player mindset, then what do you see epitomizing the solo / PvE mindset?
Are you implying that since I primarily play PVE in Elite that I have an innate and holy understanding unobtainable by someone with a different Pretend Spaceman playstyle? How does that even make sense?
What if I told you I used to be an itinerant lone survivor, a straight up serial killer, and a stalwart "badguy" team leader, all IN THE SAME GAME. O____O
Back in Urban Dead (and hence also my main gaming nick - BRAAANZ :E ) I was a zombie strike team commander in the RRF, a premier zombie horde that controlled the centre of the city as a zombie homeland, and did all the stupid boring things you do as a team leader to ensure your team itself has max fun. Our team especially liked to raise our rookies into great and dangerous monsters played by awesome people. Best group I ever gamed with in my life in any venue, and where I learned to kick SRS BSNS right in the fish and chips while still being super effective at the gameplay. I also played a ridiculously helpful nomadic repairman survivor on my original harman alt, who never done no wrong to anyone ever and would fix all the things.
My second harman alt character however was a totally ruthless PKer running a secret angel of death concept. Busty, brassy, Southern US-accented redhead in a latex nurse outfit spattered with blood for maximum style points, and the loudest, most cheerful person in any public space; healed anyone injured or infected as a rule, would give items away for free and helped recade and defend buildings. In public spaces with lots of people. I also taught any player I ever encountered by themselves to never never never ever sleep alone.
Don't be gravely wounded alone either, because mercy comes in many forms. Didn't matter even if they were a Level 1. Sleep alone and wake up dead (literally, it's a zombie game). One of the best kills I had, I found a break-in where a zombie had busted down some barricades but hadn't fully eaten their intended snack, though the person was really chewed up (the game ran on current-state, per-day Action Points so you could ape out and have to wait till your pool would start to regen to make a move). I killed the zombie, rattled off some merciful death stuff (because mere killing felt a bit uninspired - I put on a show for all my victims), and then killed the person too. I wasn't a famous killer but I did make the PKer list for a bit so I felt at least slightly accomplished that people were noticing my hard work.
Does that make me schizophrenic or just able to understand that I can play games for fun in all the ways available?
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Ive aged 5 years since opening this thread.