Do thargoids now scale with wings or instancing bugs

Shanaeri · Oct 25, 2017

Been Happily killing Thargoid's solo, but this week twice decided to wing up with some friends to give them a hand.

Both times the hearts took significantly longer to take down than in solo and at some points we needed a wing member to wake out in order to get the damage to progress.

Basically, the entire encounter took X3 as long as it does in solo.

In both times the system was HR 1185(the Indara one)

Anyone else noticed this?

GluttonyFang · Oct 25, 2017

Have you soloed since their upgrade in 2.4.03, after the flak launcher?

Shanaeri · Oct 25, 2017

Yes

It shouldn’t take 40 mins with 3 ships to take one down. Did you find hearts going down slower and more erratically in a wing?

Just seemed as though the instacing was glitchy both times, so wanted to check if it was just in that system, intended or bugged before I reported it

GluttonyFang · Oct 25, 2017

Shanaeri said:
Yes

It shouldn’t take 40 mins with 3 ships to take one down. Did you find hearts going down slower and more erratically in a wing?

Just seemed as though the instacing was glitchy both times, so wanted to check if it was just in that system, intended or bugged before I reported it

Hm, I guess I should go find a wing and test it out.

Shanaeri · Oct 25, 2017

GluttonyFang said:
Hm, I guess I should go find a wing and test it out.

Cheers. In a way I hope it is scaling to take into account the number of players in the instance, as it’s a great challenge in solo and I dont like the idea of ganking one being trivialised

CmdrZaratan · Oct 26, 2017

GluttonyFang said:
Hm, I guess I should go find a wing and test it out.

If you do, make sure someone scoops the heart just in case you need a wing to get the advanced Thargoids.

I personally find the Thargoids harder to hit in a group because it's less predictable as to which group member the Thargoid is chasing. I doubt that explains the problem described above though.

GluttonyFang · Oct 26, 2017

CmdrZaratan said:
If you do, make sure someone scoops the heart just in case you need a wing to get the advanced Thargoids.

I personally find the Thargoids harder to hit in a group because it's less predictable as to which group member the Thargoid is chasing. I doubt that explains the problem described above though.

Whoa there Cmdr, gotta up mah pay if you keep ya demands up.

*Chuckles in the background*

CmdrZaratan · Oct 26, 2017

GluttonyFang said:
Whoa there Cmdr, gotta up mah pay if you keep ya demands up.

*Chuckles in the background*

My co-pilot is worth 123 million credits...I'm sure you could squeeze him for a percentage

Warflower · Oct 26, 2017

Shanaeri said:
Yes

It shouldn’t take 40 mins with 3 ships to take one down. Did you find hearts going down slower and more erratically in a wing?

Just seemed as though the instacing was glitchy both times, so wanted to check if it was just in that system, intended or bugged before I reported it

Killed several in wings since the update and there have been “interesting” things to note. Sometimes I have shown exerted hearts when others in wing see nominal.... also damage on hearts was slower to process between wing members - I would sometimes show a different percentage than my wing man at times.

Just noting this.

Anyone interested in a wing for Thargoids... look me up in game.

CmdrZaratan · Oct 26, 2017

Warflower said:
Killed several in wings since the update and there have been “interesting” things to note. Sometimes I have shown exerted hearts when others in wing see nominal.... also damage on hearts was slower to process between wing members - I would sometimes show a different percentage than my wing man at times.

Just noting this.

Anyone interested in a wing for Thargoids... look me up in game.

Hey Warflower,

When a heart is exerted it turns bright red. Do your wingmates all see it red at the same time?

I think I did notice last time I tried this in a wing a heart seemed exerted to me a really long time when I suspect it wasn't for most of that time.

Warflower · Oct 26, 2017

CmdrZaratan said:
Hey Warflower,

When a heart is exerted it turns bright red. Do your wingmates all see it red at the same time?

I think I did notice last time I tried this in a wing a heart seemed exerted to me a really long time when I suspect it wasn't for most of that time.

Hard to say ... we usually are on Discord together and I tend to run 4 AX missles and do the EXERTING... as a result of that I see the flower petal flash and call it Exerted. There have been instances where I see them
Exerted and it’s either a delay as they say it’s not Exerted so I will go in to re-exert them.

It could be just instancing or minor lag delay ... unsure ... but it’s not constant nor does it happen all the time. But it does happen.

Ian Skippy · Oct 26, 2017

Warflower said:
Hard to say ... we usually are on Discord together and I tend to run 4 AX missles and do the EXERTING... as a result of that I see the flower petal flash and call it Exerted. There have been instances where I see them
Exerted and it’s either a delay as they say it’s not Exerted so I will go in to re-exert them.

It could be just instancing or minor lag delay ... unsure ... but it’s not constant nor does it happen all the time. But it does happen.

Maybe it just opened it's heart to you. [heart]

Lightspeed · Oct 26, 2017

Bugs with wings .... are you in Florida by any chance ?

Harley001 · Oct 27, 2017

Some thargoid ships are MUCH stronger than others.

Its implied we haven't learned all the cyclops variants yet, also we have no way of knowing how "skilled" that thargoid is at combat. Maybe the first ones we fought were a bunch of novices until they sent out the big guns!