Do you ever get more than one type of thing on a planet?

CmdrZaratan

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Every time I find geological signals on a planet and spot check a few, they're all the same. Same for biological signals.

My question is, has anyone who's got way more focus and dedication than me ever found two different types of things on the same planet (ie, planet has geological signals, and some of the signals are different to the others...planets with both geological and biological signals don't count if the geological are all the same and the biological are all the same).

Just wondering if it's ever worth going the extra mile and checking every signal.
 

Jacob Jones

Jacob Jones
Thanks for asking this question OP. I was wondering this while out practising for DW2. Seen planets with 39 or so geological signals on them. Must admit the thought of checking each one seems daunting and costly time wise. Never thought i would be thinking of AQL (acceptable Quality Limit) sampling in Elite exploration.
 

CmdrZaratan

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Jacob Jones said:
Thanks for asking this question OP. I was wondering this while out practising for DW2. Seen planets with 39 or so geological signals on them. Must admit the thought of checking each one seems daunting and costly time wise. Never thought i would be thinking of AQL (acceptable Quality Limit) sampling in Elite exploration.
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I was inspired to check all 23 sources on a carbon dioxide geyser landable. I made it to 18 before my brain cried out for something fresh to do. I encountered carbon dioxide ice fumaroles and carbon dioxide ice geysers in similar numbers.

From this single datapoint I'm going to say it's ok just to check a few sequentially till you get the second type. Doing all is overkill.
 

Jacob Jones

Jacob Jones
CmdrZaratan said:
I was inspired to check all 23 sources on a carbon dioxide geyser landable. I made it to 18 before my brain cried out for something fresh to do. I encountered carbon dioxide ice fumaroles and carbon dioxide ice geysers in similar numbers.

From this single datapoint I'm going to say it's ok just to check a few sequentially till you get the second type. Doing all is overkill.
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I think you are right. The common sense approach is always the best option.
 

DukeWally

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Same answer on biologicals -- there can be more than one type on a single planet. I have seen two types of Brain Trees (Roseus and Carpasinus I think) as well as...ugh...more Bark Mounds. It seems to me (though I am not confident enough to say definitively) that the types are grouped by site number [x], i.e. the first few sites were Roseus BT, then the next bunch Carpasinus BT, then the rest BM.
 

CmdrZaratan

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DukeWally said:
Same answer on biologicals -- there can be more than one type on a single planet. I have seen two types of Brain Trees (Roseus and Carpasinus I think) as well as...ugh...more Bark Mounds. It seems to me (though I am not confident enough to say definitively) that the types are grouped by site number [x], i.e. the first few sites were Roseus BT, then the next bunch Carpasinus BT, then the rest BM.
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So you're saying you had 3 different biologicals on the same planet? (2 x brain trees and 1 x bark mounds)?
 

Mengy

Mengy
CmdrZaratan said:
So you're saying you had 3 different biologicals on the same planet? (2 x brain trees and 1 x bark mounds)?
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Yep, I've seen this as well. One planet I landed on had two types of anemones plus two types of geologicals too, so four total different surface POI's. I have no idea what the max number of combinations are, there is most likely a limit to it.
 

CmdrZaratan

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Mengy said:
Yep, I've seen this as well. One planet I landed on had two types of anemones plus two types of geologicals too, so four total different surface POI's. I have no idea what the max number of combinations are, there is most likely a limit to it.
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If there's 2 different types per planet per type (geological and biological) I'd expect that, but the guy above says he saw 3 different biologicals on the same planet which is why I want to make absolutely sure.

Still....I'm learning about geologicals as I go. I correctly predicted which two types of geological I'd find on a planet last night. If I ever find space pumpkins I'll make sure I check for multiple variations on the same planet.
 

Major Klutz

Major Klutz
I've seen Geo and Bio on the same planet. I didn't visit all geos but the bios were all the same.
 
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Gemai

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Due to how geology is spawned the maximum IS 3. Which is rare but possible. Unless it is a geo (1) planet you will get 2 types on nearly all worlds. Certain geology spawns on certain types. For example the most rare is gaseous non-frozen carbon dioxide on Rocky Ice Bodies with Carbon Geysers. The rate is 45 planets in 300ly radius.

Regarding biological, I can confirm there are at least up to 3 types of samples. If there can be more? Maybe if RNG is on your side. But 3 is definetly confirmed.

1 Roseus 2 Roseus 3 Aureus 4 Ostrinus 5 Ostrinus 6 Roseus 7 Roseus 8 Roseus

Synuefe XR-H D11-14

Unlike geology which tries to play nice, biology is a a damn goof. You can scan 20 signals all with the same thing. If RNG decides it is one species only system, it is.
 
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Malbek

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I've just started with the new mechanics but anecdotally I've never found multiple biologicals on one world. Several sites of the same brain trees but that's it.
 
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CmdrZaratan

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Gemai said:
Due to how geology is spawned the maximum IS 3. Which is rare but possible. Unless it is a geo (1) planet you will get 2 types on nearly all worlds. Certain geology spawns on certain types. For example the most rare is gaseous non-frozen carbon dioxide on Rocky Ice Bodies with Carbon Geysers. The rate is 45 planets in 300ly radius.

Regarding biological, I can confirm there are at least up to 3 types of samples. If there can be more? Maybe if RNG is on your side. But 3 is definetly confirmed.

1 Roseus 2 Roseus 3 Aureus 4 Ostrinus 5 Ostrinus 6 Roseus 7 Roseus 8 Roseus

Synuefe XR-H D11-14

Unlike geology which tries to play nice, biology is a a damn goof. You can scan 20 signals all with the same thing. If RNG decides it is one species only system, it is.
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Having now completed my stamp book for Geological features in Elysian Shore (including being first to find Carbon Dioxide Gas Vents), I'm comfortable in saying that planet type almost always tells you how many different types of site you'll encounter and which types you'll encounter.

Icy worlds have 2 (if they have enough sites), and others will have 3. This is pretty much every time.

There's a very good reason Carbon Dioxide Gas Vents, Sulphur Dioxide Ice Fumaroles and Silicate Vapour Ice Fumaroles are comparatively rare (if you look around the galactic regions in the codex, they're usually the ones not found yet).

It sounds like biologicals follow similar rules as long as it's possible for multiples to be present (Elysian Shore is infested with bark mounds around nebulas but stuff all else so far)
 

Codger

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Interesting thread.
I have found up to 3 different geologic types on one planet, but so far only 1 biologic type.

So I was wondering what the limit was. If there are a bunch of sites, how many do I have to visit to be reasonably sure I've seen all the types?

That's what I'm trying to decide. :)
 

CmdrZaratan

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Codger said:
Interesting thread.
I have found up to 3 different geologic types on one planet, but so far only 1 biologic type.

So I was wondering what the limit was. If there are a bunch of sites, how many do I have to visit to be reasonably sure I've seen all the types?

That's what I'm trying to decide. :)
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For geological, 6 or 7 is almost always enough sites to get all 3. Can't comment for biological seeing as I'm in bark mound central, but I'd assume it's similar.
 

Gemai

Gemai
The Coalsack Nebula is also full of Bark Mounds when a system is 70ly distance from it. That aside, this is the geology features run against EDSM for 300ly radius:

Iron Magma (15715:300)
-Iron Lava Sprout
-Sulphur Dioxide Gas
-Sulphur Dioxide Fumarole
-Sulphur Dioxide Ice Fumarole (Rocky Ice 108:300)

Silicate Magma / Geyser (23787:300)
-Silicate Magma Sprout
-Silicate Vapour Fumarole
-Silicate Vapour Ice Fumarole (Rocky Ice 182:300)

Water Magma (Rock 185:300)
- Water Fumarole
- Water Geyser

Water Magma / Geyser (Ice - 42365:300)
-Water Ice Fumarole
-Water Ice Geyser
-Water Gas Vent (Rocky Ice - 349:300)

Carbon Dioxide (Ice 11234:300)
-Carbon Dioxide Ice Fumarole
-Carbon Dioxide Ice Geyser
-Carbon Dioxide Gas Vent (Rocky Ice 45:300)

Nitrogen Magma (Ice 974:300)
- Nitrogen Ice Fumarole
- Nitrogen Ice Geyser

Ammonia Magma (Ice 1051:300)
- Ammonia Ice Fumarole
- Ammonia Ice Geyser

Methane Magma (Ice 1056:300)
-Methane Geyser
-Methane Fumarole
 
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