Does having a roadmap keep you engaged with Elite?

EDIT: As usual not that clear. Engaged means actively interested, active in the community etc, over an above just playing.

The thought has crossed my mind a few times over the last month, but with the announcement that the next step in elite is over a year and a half away its worth a post.

Since beyond has finished, ive started to apply that same state to the perception of elite in general. This hasn't yet effected how i play it, but its interesting to have that subconscious impression of disengagement now that there's nothing in the future to aspire to. Is this just me or is anyone else feeling the same? Maybe there was something of value in always having something to look forward to as new content.

The extreme distance in time to the next update, well is something we can't do anything about, but it simply is not encouraging (in the literal sense). If you like elite, over the time you spend you develop a huge amount of goodwill towards the game and frontier, and it kinda seems like a waste to drop it cold like that.

I do accept that frontier is frontier, and there's nothing we're going to be able to communicate to change anything they do, as always, so as parting closure to this era, heading into the void, there's just 2 parting points i want to raise:

On goodwill and cosmetics
I've spent my fair share multiplied a few times over 3 accounts, and this news pretty much shuts it down. Goodwill unfortunately for me at least, is a huge component in my decision to actually purchase them. A real component of wanting to 'support' frontier... very specifically in return for regular updates to the game. Without this the goodwill there is gone. Sadly its needed, because the cosmetics have real issues that frontiers naive ignorance simply does not cover after the first few purchases. They are stupidly expensive for what you get, and there's anti consumer practice of no sharing over multiple accounts, and zero options in game to earn them. Behaviour like this in reality would get torn to shreds by the mainstream gaming community if elite was mainstream, and it really was the goodwill of frontiers support to the game that allowed these practices to pass. It was mutual respect i guess, and with no support their offering is gone.. implying the same in turn.

Lament for the Thargoids
One era is closed, and we're waiting for the next. What a shame about the thargoids. Admittedly i've been keeping some door open for that to actually go somewhere, but now we're moving on.. what a massive shame. I remember the community and myself electric with excitement when the first hyperdictions, barnacles and trailers came out. For something real and very interesting to come into elite, so much potential. The fact that they've settled on basically sandbox colouring, 2 dlc like missions + upgrades and pve combat content is such a deflation. Another case of frontier really having us, im sure everyone would have been lining up to buy thargoid balloons and showbags, but.. that's it? Fizzled? I like what's there, but what an immense waste at the same time. My "personal narrative" ends in this post :)

Anyways. I've still got a bunch of sandbox goals to get into so wont be leaving just yet, but its lukewarm now. A forum post full of legalese language with disclaimers to turn off expectations is.. not that inspiring.

ps. As an inverse to the above, a bit of cooling off may be just the right thing.. forgetting about the game and community and just focusing on being in your ship again is another alternative. There's nothing to care or talk about, okay, lets just get back in the spaceship! :)

EDIT: Also frontier just put Obsidian Ant and all those content creators (except the rp guys) out of business.
 
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The thought has crossed my mind a few times over the last month, but with the announcement that the next step in elite is over a year and a half away its worth a post.

Since beyond has finished, ive started to apply that same state to the perception of elite in general. This hasn't yet effected how i play it, but its interesting to have that subconscious impression of disengagement now that there's nothing in the future to aspire to. Is this just me or is anyone else feeling the same? Maybe there was something of value in always having something to look forward to as new content.

The extreme distance in time to the next update, well is something we can't do anything about, but it simply is not encouraging (in the literal sense). If you like elite, over the time you spend you develop a huge amount of goodwill towards the game and frontier, and it kinda seems like a waste to drop it cold like that.

I do accept that frontier is frontier, and there's nothing we're going to be able to communicate to change anything they do, as always, so as parting closure to this era, heading into the void, there's just 2 parting points i want to raise:

On goodwill and cosmetics
I've spent my fair share multiplied a few times over 3 accounts, and this news pretty much shuts it down. Goodwill unfortunately for me at least, is a huge component in my decision to actually purchase them. A real component of wanting to 'support' frontier... very specifically in return for regular updates to the game. Without this the goodwill there is gone. Sadly its needed, because the cosmetics have real issues that frontiers naive ignorance simply does not cover after the first few purchases. They are stupidly expensive for what you get, and there's anti consumer practice of no sharing over multiple accounts, and zero options in game to earn them. Behaviour like this in reality would get torn to shreds by the mainstream gaming community if elite was mainstream, and it really was the goodwill of frontiers support to the game that allowed these practices to pass. It was mutual respect i guess, and with no support their offering is gone.. implying the same in turn.

Lament for the Thargoids
One era is closed, and we're waiting for the next. What a shame about the thargoids. Admittedly i've been keeping some door open for that to actually go somewhere, but now we're moving on.. what a massive shame. I remember the community and myself electric with excitement when the first hyperdictions, barnacles and trailers came out. For something real and very interesting to come into elite, so much potential. The fact that they've settled on basically sandbox colouring, 2 dlc like missions + upgrades and pve combat content is such a deflation. Another case of frontier really having us, im sure everyone would have been lining up to buy thargoid balloons and showbags, but.. that's it? Fizzled? I like what's there, but what an immense waste at the same time. My "personal narrative" ends in this post :)

Anyways. I've still got a bunch of sandbox goals to get into so wont be leaving just yet, but its lukewarm now. A forum post full of legalese language with disclaimers to turn off expectations is.. not that inspiring.

ps. As an inverse to the above, a bit of cooling off may be just the right thing.. forgetting about the game and community and just focusing on being in your ship again is another alternative. There's nothing to care or talk about, okay, lets just get back in the spaceship! :)

EDIT: Also frontier just put Obsidian Ant and all those content creators (except the rp guys) out of business.

Having lots & lots to do in the game is what keeps me engaged. Also, at least it isn't a dumpster fire like Star Citizen....or games like Anthem, Destiny 2 or most of the other dreck coming out of a lot of AAA studios these days.
 
No. I had no problem with only seeing what a game is on release for decades, not changing now. I am slightly disappointed at the length of the wait but hey, it's not like I haven't got other things to do.
 
Bah. People these days have no patience. :p

Patience, not at all. More of a recalibration of energy / passion burn on the topic.

We can't do anything about frontier so i accept its my fanning elite that's the problem :)

Having lots & lots to do in the game is what keeps me engaged. Also, at least it isn't a dumpster fire like Star Citizen....or games like Anthem, Destiny 2 or most of the other dreck coming out of a lot of AAA studios these days.

For me its the sandbox. Increasingly i find linear games really difficult to play, and there are only so many open world games interesting / available. Star Citizen is still a nasty cult and people just accepting lies and broken promises week after week, but they've done nothing like this. First time Star Citizen has had the high ground over elite, ever. The commitment score.
 
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with the announcement that the next step in elite is over a year and a half away its worth a post.

Well, if you discount everything in the announcement of content before then I suppose you may have a point. But given they announced stuff is happening before that ... Not so much
 
Well, if you discount everything in the announcement of content before then I suppose you may have a point. But given they announced stuff is happening before that ... Not so much

Stewart Lee "you can prove anything with facts" routine.

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No, for me a road map is irrelevant. If it's a good game now I play it now. Next year I might carry on or play something else.
 
Flying a VR spaceship will keep me engaged. And i am looking forward to see what is building up behind the dev curtain.
Even if it is months to the first infos... No hurry, this game needs to be best, not fast updated.

fly dangerous!

o7 CMDRs
 
At least now, I know that I have another year before I have to worry about FDev making changes to Power Play.

If a CMDR has ever wanted to complete any Power Play objectives or farm the Power Play modules, now is the time. o7
 
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I realy like the game but as it lacks deph i´m "in" every once in a while for some weeks and "off" again for the next months...
I´m playing since the release of Horizon. They´ve added plenty of content since it´s release and i´m willing to pay for another such add-on but i think Frontier is not willing to release another big update soon.. which is a shame since i read many good suggestions in the forums. I don´t know the financial status on ED but i do believe a well panned out road map`d revitalize the player base and interest in the game as a whole. It ´s by far the largest space sim and only EVE rivals it in content terms. I´ve the impression FD is a bit of clueless where to go right now.
 
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I'm still playing Skyrim, so I guess that means that roadmaps are not that important to me. If anything, a roadmap might make me unengaged in ED. For example, I put exploration on hold last fall when I knew that new exploration tools would be coming out in a few months.

The only map I care about right is the one that shows Frontier where all the bugs are, so that they fix them, hopefully sooner vs. later.
 
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While a road map would be nice, I certainly don't need one to keep playing.

Yep, no need to. Plenty to do and appreciate in the game. (this isn't the CIG/SC-ponzi and their 'buried treasure'-roadmaps) Looking forward to the pleasant surprises in the ED updates they have coming in the interim.
 
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Yep, no need to. Plenty to do and appreciate in the game. .

Sure. You can scan planets. Millions of them. There are, like, nine different kinds, maybe ten. Sometimes they are near a star. Sometimes not so near. It is certainly very rewarding to scan so many of them. Look, you even get your name put on them. That is certainly an achievement which will live on in the annals of history.

You can drive around shooting rocks and then awkwardly reverse backwards and forward over them in order to collect things high on the list of universal abundance but which are inexplicably unavailable for purchase with the galaxy-wide currency. That definitely never gets old. Strangely, even Kings and Admirals are more-or-less obliged to spend some proportion of their time doing it. It's like a ritual or something.

You can blow up ships. 30 different kind of ships, in a galaxy of trillions of people who strangely only created six different ship-building companies who supply literally everyone somehow.

You can have up to eight different kinds of somewhat one-sided conversations with an enormous variety of pirates, wedding guests and tourist buses.

You can have a completely miniscule influence through a fractally chaotic and bugged politics simulator involving a bunch of meaningless RNG-named factions squabbling over a vast array of utterly identical assets.

Plenty to appreciate. If you don't see it, you must not be the right kind of gamer.
 
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