Does leaving a CZ count as losing it?
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And losing a CZ doesn't count against your faction, you just miss out on the positive effect you'd have got from winning.
EDIT - Ooops! This is wrong, see following posts...
EDIT - Ooops! This is wrong, see following posts...
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Err...doesn't losing by definition mean the other side won, and would therefore get the benefit?
I lost a CZ (by a hair's width) not long ago and I could have sworn it said influence decrease for the faction I was sided with.
If there are no players on the other side in the same CZ then there's no benefit for the other side.
It was confirmed by one of the FD devs a while back, I'll try and dig out the quote. Otherwise it would be much simpler for players to join the other side and lose (by, for example, launching fighters and getting them quickly destroyed), rather than to bother trying to win for their side.
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Also also I believe each 250k in combat bonds is equal to the same amount of "win points" (for lack of a better word) towards winning the day/war
It would be nice if you could dig it up.
I also witnessed the Lost influence message on losing a CZ
It may be the message occurs but the effect doesn't happen.
It does seem extremely exploitable if you could just join and force a loss easily.
I'm doubtful that even several CMDRs all launching fighters as quickly as possible could deliberately lose a CZ significantly faster than they could win one and the the influence notifications I've seen showed a lower influence loss for failure than influence gain for success.
Anyway, if that's how it does work, the notifications given by the game must be in error.
I don't think this is practical.
The cycle time of a dual fighter hangar is generally longer than the TTK of NPC ships and I'm not certain SLFs are worth as much as larger kills (I was under the impression it was related to combat bond value, but I haven't paid close enough attention to the progress bar to be sure). Even if the per-kill progress values all the same, spending fifteen minutes to shoot down all of one's own SLFs then turning on ones own side would make it barely faster to cycle losses than wins and as I mentioned above, the stated influence decrease for losing a CZ is lower than the influence gain for winning one.
Yeah, I'm not convinced about this either.
A "loss" attribute is associated with the player in the CZ. I've taken advantage of this on numerous occasions now to deliberately drive states or war losses. It's the same as failing a mission in that regard... the player "earns" a negative rep/inf/state effect.
(PS: Damn we need more ways to actively earn negative effects...)
Ahhh! You're all right, I was miss-remembering and mixing up losing the CZ and leaving before it concluded. Losing is -ve effect, winning is +ve effect but leaving mid-battle gives no result either way.
I'm off to sit in a corner and think about what I've done
I'm off to sit in a corner and think about what I've done