Don't care about CQC?... Well in 2.1 you'll be forced to.

[Jockey79]

If you don't care about CQC you will be forced to care if you want to be able to craft some of the blueprints in 2.1.

From this week's newsletter:

"the Pilots Federation ranks (including combat, trade, exploration and CQC) will influence some engineers"

What do you all think of this?

I'm sorry to say this crap just infuriates me. I think it's a cheap shot to force people into a game they don't want to play and will never have any interest in. I say "game" and not "game mode", because CQC isn't even a part of the main game. However, that doesn't mean there isn't a shallow tacked on rank, (supposedly the equal of exploration, combat and trade), in the right panel of the main game, created just because CQC was a new, shiny, flavour of the moment thing at the time.

Well now to go along with the rank you can't earn in the main game, there will be blueprints you can't earn in the main game as well.

It was almost acceptable to have to put up with a gaudy tacked on rank in the right panel that meant nothing in the main game, as it was just superficial, but it's really not acceptable now that it actually has a bearing on what you get access to in the main game. You just know that there will be some gem of a blueprint locked behind the CQC rank just to boost what must be a pretty terrible uptake in playing CQC, going by how difficult it is to get a match.

I've tried to like it, I really have and every time I play it I'm getting good results or MVP, but it's just a stressful grind, repetitive, shoot and die fest.

FD, please rethink this. You would be locking people out of crafting in the main game based on a rank that has NO BEARING and is NOT ACHIEVABLE in the main game.

So people earning credits without any risk of loss in the main game, didn't bother you?
People having a station with a full 10% discount on ships and gear (and the station has all the gear) didn't bother you?
People not having Horizons wont get full access to the crafting system didn't bother you?

But you having to do some CQC to access a handful of blueprints (that may be junk) bothers you ?????

Glad you stand up for the community, glad you look at the bigger picture, glad you think about your fellow gamers.......

oh, hang on.... you didn't.

 

[Bacalao]

"Don't care about trading?...Well in 2.1 you'll be forced to."
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[Hemlock Reaper]

You assume there is no distinction between PVP and CQC.

I enjoy PVP. I enjoy long tactical battles involving pip management, load outs and lots of skill.

CQC is none of those. They are not one and the same.

CQC is PVP. Open world PVP no, but it is PVP. How you could think otherwise is baffling.

 

[bitstorm]

What do you all think of this?

...it's really not acceptable now...

In all honesty I don't see an issue.

I'm justing seeing this as yet more pointless forum melodrama.

The sky is not falling.

Sorry but if it's really not acceptable to you then please just go find another game.

 

[andrak]

So people earning credits without any risk of loss in the main game, didn't bother you?
People having a station with a full 10% discount on ships and gear (and the station has all the gear) didn't bother you?
People not having Horizons wont get full access to the crafting system didn't bother you?

But you having to do some CQC to access a handful of blueprints (that may be junk) bothers you ?????

Glad you stand up for the community, glad you look at the bigger picture, glad you think about your fellow gamers.......

oh, hang on.... you didn't.

This thread is about CQC and it's affect on the core game, of which it's not a part, none of the other spurious topics you mentioned are relevant in this thread, most of which are a total non issue:

Without any risk of loss in the main game, what are you on about? Solo by any chance, which is something FD said they would support from the get go.
10% discount is for founders or anyone reaching any of the Elite ranks, which are integrated and achievable in the main game (non issue)
People not having Horizons don't get access to certain things. It's generally the deal when you don't pay for something to not get the benefits or services associated with it...

Yep, it does bother me. Hence the thread.

Standing up for the community, what are you on about, take a step off your pedestal mate and maybe stay on topic.

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CQC is PVP. Open world PVP no, but it is PVP. How you could think otherwise is baffling.

How about reading my post. Where did I say it was NOT PVP? The previous poster assumed there was no difference between PVP and CQC, so I pointed out there's a big difference. Both are obviously PVP, but totally different in pace and tactics.

 

[Enderby]

But cqc is silly so no one actually cares I guess

 

[andrak]

But cqc is silly so no one actually cares I guess

Yeh, that's kind of the point I was making. Will you care when you can't unlock the thing you want in the main game because it's gated behind a "silly" CQC rank?

 

[bitstorm]

Yeh, that's kind of the point I was making. Will you care when you can't unlock the thing you want in the main game because it's gated behind a "silly" CQC rank?

There's nothing that says everyone must be able to unlock everything.

 

[DaggerSnake]

Last check of my rank panel shows CQC right there along with the others.

It doesn't matter if you think it's part of the game or not. The Pilots Federation recognizes it and they get the official word.

Triple Elite is soooo pre 1.4
Quadruple Elite is where it's at.

 

[Enderby]

Yeh, that's kind of the point I was making. Will you care when you can't unlock the thing you want in the main game because it's gated behind a "silly" CQC rank?

No, you are right.

 

[Lily from anim.o.v.e]

well stuff like purely visuals, as different colored beams and such should be PvP rewards as some kind of "prestige" objects. Yet anything affecting gameplay probably forcing non PvP players into PvP would be a bad design decision.

 

[andrak]

In all honesty I don't see an issue.

I'm justing seeing this as yet more pointless forum melodrama.

The sky is not falling.

Sorry but if it's really not acceptable to you then please just go find another game.

Oh please give it a break with the standard FD apologist boiler plate "go and find another game" answer. That's for the mostly harmless 1st post noobs with their rage quit threads.

Why would I be taking the time to post if I wasn't invested in the game. I want to see it blossom and reach its full potential.

 

[Ozric]

Rather a misleading title to your thread, as you won't be forced to do anything.

 

[andrak]

Rather a misleading title to your thread, as you won't be forced to do anything.

Sorry I should have used the usual meaningless click bait titles that are usually on here like "I can't believe I just..."

I'll keep that in mind for next time.

 

[Ozric]

Sorry I should have used the usual meaningless click bait titles that are usually on here like "I can't believe I just..."

I'll keep that in mind for next time.

Nice, thanks.

It was almost acceptable to have to put up with a gaudy tacked on rank in the right panel that meant nothing in the main game, as it was just superficial, but it's really not acceptable now that it actually has a bearing on what you get access to in the main game.

You do also realise it has always had a bearing on what you can get access to in the main game?

 

[andrak]

Nice, thanks.



You do also realise it has always had a bearing on what you can get access to in the main game?

You mean Founders World access, which is also equally unlocked by reaching Elite in the 3 original ranks, so is not just CQC rank locked.

 

[bitstorm]

Oh please give it a break with the standard FD apologist boiler plate "go and find another game" answer. That's for the mostly harmless 1st post noobs with their rage quit threads.

You're the one saying what is and what isn't acceptable here.

It's really simple, if it's NOT acceptable, as you say, then leave.

Problem solved.

Frontier then doesn't have to change the game to please you.

There's nothing that says you have to have everything.

Engage with the game on its terms, not the other way round.

If you're not happy with that, then please go find another game.

"this crap just infuriates me"

Get a grip.

 

[Space Dandy]

You might as well complain that you're forced to rank up to Rear Admiral to get the Corvette and you have to save 150,000,000cr to buy an Anaconda or, hell, you have to buy ammo for your railgun. Well, duh.

Some things in the game are held back behind achievement or level unlocks - that's how computer games work. If you want those advantages you have to work on them, if you don't you don't.

What your talking about is entirely different as they are all part of the real..err main game whereas cqc is just some tacked on cheap stuff for quick pewpewpew....we shouldn't even have cqc ranks in our right side panal in the main game it's so disconnected.


Hopefully though like some people are saying the engineer in question will just sell blueprints that are good in cqc only...

 

[Sole Hunter]

You assume there is no distinction between PVP and CQC.

I enjoy PVP. I enjoy long tactical battles involving pip management, load outs and lots of skill.

CQC is none of those. They are not one and the same.

You're also assuming I mean you don't know what is the end result.

 

[andrak]

You're the one saying what is and what isn't acceptable here.

It's really simple, if it's NOT acceptable, as you say, then leave.

Problem solved.

Frontier then doesn't have to change the game to please you.

There's nothing that says you have to have everything.

Engage with the game on its terms, not the other way round.

If you're not happy with that, then please go find another game.



Christ almighty, get a grip.

Standard answer again I see. Yes the problem will be solved when there is no one left to play the game because all the apologists and white knights have told them all to leave.

It might surprise you but some of the opinions and criticisms that people on this forum bring up actually have resulted in changes in the game for the better.

All I have done is post MY opinion, and also asked "What do you all think of this?" in the OP because I'm very well aware this is just MY opinion.

You don't agree, fine, I get it. In your own words "If you're not happy" go and find another post to not agree with.

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You're also assuming I mean you don't know what is the end result.

The journey you take to get to that end result makes all the difference.