Dove Enigma UA bombed, preventing completion of its voyage in time for the man it was named for.

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Blaming FDev for something that requires non-FDev people to coordinate is just misdirection.

FDev did not UA bomb this.

Do not split blame amongst the tossers with the developers who did something nice for someone.

I don't split or apportion blame. I simply speak of what was inevitable, please don't misunderstand, I think I made it clear I find it despicable.
 
Unbelievable... Fdev is definetely not to blame. Nobody would expect such low behavior. Tbh the responsible UA bomber should be banned.

Has a ticket already been opened? Not sure if they are reading this soon...
 
FDev put this ship in place FOR THE CMDR IN QUESTION.
I'm not sure I've ever read something so damn disrespectful.

Plenty of poeple are going out there now with Meta alloys but it should never have happened in the first place, considering we're on a IRL time constraint.

If it is important to you, you will fix it. Do i support UA bombing this? No.
Do i support FDevs implementation of this gesture? Absolutely.
Do i support FD fixing this? No.
Do i think posing on the forum is cheap? Yes.
 
I find this basically impossible to believe. Megaships aren't common, and UA bombers need a lot of cargo and a specific target. It's always purposeful. One need only google the name to find out what's going on.
There are also a huge number of megaships which would be considerably easier to bomb, what with them not being 22kLY from the sources of UAs.


Note: the Galnet article today is the "brink of closure" warning. The ship is currently still operating normally - it will close in 1 week if insufficient meta-alloys are delivered before then ... if that happens, it will only reopen once more meta-alloys are delivered. So it's possible that the community response will lead to no actual shutdown occurring, if it's quick enough and large enough.

(If you're carrying meta-alloys, you'll start seeing NPC pirates from about 500 LY out, with more likely in Colonia itself - either outfit to deal with them or obtain an escort to avoid expensive cargo loss)
 
Do i support FD fixing this? No.
Do i think posing on the forum is cheap? Yes.

Stop digging mate, I think in the case of a dying cmdr the devs can make a slight adjustment to a game

Still don't understand why they would add a black market to a mega ship built to honour a Cmdr. I'd say it is an innocent mistake that needs to be fixed, the devs obviously don't understand how bad some parts of the community can be..
 
Well, I hate to play devil's advocate, but if it has some special significance, FD should have protected it better. If I was into UA bombing megaships (I'm not, but if I was...) I might have done it completely innocently, because I had to google the significance, it's possible the UA bomber didn't know either. I realise this is a VERY unlikely scenario, but the point is it could have happened, by coincidence, so FD should have done something to prevent that coincidence, as well as the obvious possibility of griefer/dead_inside humans.

Well I'm on here daily and have absolutely no idea what "Dove Enigma" is.

If this is in anyway a memorial for something or someone then if FD had felt it appropriate it would have been protected.

Perhaps the significance of this is that it can be an active part of the ED universe.


So in short some memorials are for looking at others for sitting on. Personally I like park benches as memorials as when I'm sitting on them I always have a think about the person it's dedicated to.

Also I googled Dove Enigma and it just says it's a Megaship at Colonia.
 
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Stop crying and do something about it if it is important to you.
As despicable as this act is, you're right. It's part of the game and fdev shouldn't do a thing about it. If the community wants to have a special event in an open world game then they're going to have to protect that event too. I mean, how is this not expected? You guys haven't seen the griefers ruin any event or live stream they come across? Solome' anyone?
 
As despicable as this act is, you're right. It's part of the game and fdev shouldn't do a thing about it. If the community wants to have a special event in an open world game then they're going to have to protect that event too. I mean, how is this not expected? You guys haven't seen the griefers ruin any event or live stream they come across? Solome' anyone?

This is a little different. We have someone dying of cancer here who made a request to be remembered in the game. The station that was UA Bombed is that memorial, and the person who made the request is fortunately still with us. Sad they had to see this on top of everything else they are obviously dealing with.

Sometimes Perma-Banning proven sociopaths is the right action to take. If the person responsible for this has a history of this kind of stuff, then I urge frontier to do the right thing and permanently ban them from the game.

Crossing a line like this is beyond the pale and requires severe punitive action.
 
This is a total dim witted thing for someone to do, and I feel if players can’t save it FD should overwrite and fix (they should do that as it is).

Person who who did this should think (if that’s possible for such a useless waste of skin) about if it was their own family or someone they cared about.
 
Honestly, as despicable as that action may be, a ban for using a game tactic? No.
FD should render Dove Enigma UA resistent and that's it.
 
in game there is a "most wanted" in each system for the most wanted CMDRS.

surely UA bombing a station or megaship should have some form of an ingame pushback.

CMDR names of the UA attackers should be put on the BB imo with an automatic KOS bounty attached.

these actions stink, but imo at least the game should allow ingame retribution.

normally i would say FD should not get involved BGS manipulation wise but honestly in this case, it would be a harsh person to have issue with it imo.
 
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This is a little different. We have someone dying of cancer here who made a request to be remembered in the game. The station that was UA Bombed is that memorial, and the person who made the request is fortunately still with us. Sad they had to see this on top of everything else they are obviously dealing with.

Sometimes Perma-Banning proven sociopaths is the right action to take. If the person responsible for this has a history of this kind of stuff, then I urge frontier to do the right thing and permanently ban them from the game.

Crossing a line like this is beyond the pale and requires severe punitive action.

While I agree with the sentiment, that is just not possible. It is an npc asset in a video game. Even the king of stormwind could be killed by a large enough raid. Asteroids are invincible in elite and they probably shouldn't be, so this megaship should be both invulnerable (which it is I assume) and have no black market or other obvious mechanism by which it can be shut down.

While you and I see it as sociopathic behavior, the perpetrators themselves have a certain right to say it's just pixels and content in a game they play just as much as everyone else and paid the same as everyone else. It's a sad fact of life, and why we still need jails and other deterrents in real life.
 
Stop digging mate, I think in the case of a dying cmdr the devs can make a slight adjustment to a game
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But its not about him, but about forum warriors howling for divine intervention so they can feel good. Instead of actually doing something themselves.

The whole "dying commander" issue falls apart when people are not willing to actuaöly do something against the UA bombing and instead pose on the forum filled with righteous wrath.
 
Using a bad word gets you a warning or ban on the forum. Being the lowest piece of scum on earth in their game has no consequence. GG fdev!

Relax, try to see it from the point of view of a 15 year old, you never vandalized anything mindlessly? I know I did once or twice, nothing crazy, naturally, but I ruined a couple of people's days a couple of times for sure. Honestly I think your reaction is a bit strong mate, no offense.
 
You guys haven't seen the griefers ruin any event or live stream they come across? Solome' anyone?
I think it's worth pointing out here that the Salome event is absolutely not comparable (to this, or to be honest to much else), as that one was explicitly set up by Frontier and Drew Wagar to have two sides, with opposed objectives, and wouldn't have been much of an event if one of the sides hadn't shown up, or had deliberately pulled its collective punches to ensure the foregone conclusion some people were hoping for.

If you're extending "griefer" to anyone not on the same side as you, then that's making an already meaningless term completely useless.
 
But its not about him, but about forum warriors howling for divine intervention so they can feel good. Instead of actually doing something themselves.

The whole "dying commander" issue falls apart when people are not willing to actuaöly do something against the UA bombing and instead pose on the forum filled with righteous wrath.

People are doing plenty. Myself included. Don't speak of things you are ignorant about please. The orgnization underway is already large and people are already enroute, with many, many more on the way.

It doesn't make the situation less disgusting, nor anyone who does anything to excuse or say this is acceptable.
 
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