Downunder pack

I really think the addition of burrows means this pack is highly likely for the next pack. Africa pack brought the meerkat then next pack we got the prairie dog. Wombat, bettong, greater bilby, Tasmanian devils (abandoned wombat hole) all like to live in burrows. However I only think it would be used for the wombat based on size. My top pack prediction would be
1. Tasmanian Devil
2. Emu
3. Hairy nosed Wombat
4. Bennett’s Wallaby
5. Platypus
6. Short beaked Echidna
7. Perentie
8. Lord Howe Island Stick Insect

I think that the only locks are the top three, Emu, Wombat and Tasmanian Devil, several others that could be included knowing frontiers random selections at times.
Kiwi
Little penguin
Greater bilby
Brush tailed possum
Tree kangaroo
Grey Kangaroo
Burrowing bettong
Quokka
Quoll
Dromedary camel
Freshwater crocodile
the list goes on.
 
If we revisit Oceania, there are three must haves for me:

  • Tasmanian devil
  • Emu
  • a Wallaby!

Wallabies are super common in captivity in zoos around the world, when I visit a zoo I sooner expect to see a wallaby than a kangaroo. So for me, if we revisit Oceania, the animal pack would be:

1. Tasmanian devil, representing Tasmania.
2. Emu, the iconic Australian land bird.
3. Kiwi, representing New Zealand.
4. Exhibit animal: Tuatara, also from New Zealand, representing a new reptile type.
5. a Tree kangaroo, from New Guinea.
and some more marsupials from Australia, because there's never enough marsupials:
6. Wombat, basically a cute furry ground koala.
7. a Wallaby species, such as the Bennett's wallaby or the Yellow footed rock wallaby.
8. either a Wallaroo or a Grey kangaroo. I'd prefer the Eastern grey kangaroo for the last slot, as it is so different from the red kangaroo and would be a nice way to finalize our kangaroo roster, giving us a small, medium, and large species in the wallaby, grey kangaroo, and red kangaroo.

Example:
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If we revisit Oceania, there are three must haves for me:

  • Tasmanian devil
  • Emu
  • a Wallaby!

Wallabies are super common in captivity in zoos around the world, when I visit a zoo I sooner expect to see a wallaby than a kangaroo. So for me, if we revisit Oceania, the animal pack would be:

1. Tasmanian devil, representing Tasmania.
2. Emu, the iconic Australian land bird.
3. Kiwi, representing New Zealand.
4. Exhibit animal: Tuatara, also from New Zealand, representing a new reptile type.
5. a Tree kangaroo, from New Guinea.
and some more marsupials from Australia, because there's never enough marsupials:
6. Wombat, basically a cute furry ground koala.
7. a Wallaby species, such as the Bennett's wallaby or the Yellow footed rock wallaby.
8. either a Wallaroo or a Grey kangaroo. I'd prefer the Eastern grey kangaroo for the last slot, as it is so different from the red kangaroo and would be a nice way to finalize our kangaroo roster, giving us a small, medium, and large species in the wallaby, grey kangaroo, and red kangaroo.

Example:
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This is almost my dream Oceania pack. I would only change the grey kangaroo for an Australian pelican
 
Three roos in a pack is really too many and really cuts a majority of our most notable species represented in zoos in Australia. I would be upset if 3 roos were added. It would be like adding 3 types of deer or 3 types of otters to a single DLC pack.

I recently revised to an alternate pack which is just Australian animals and came up with this conbo which would fill the niche perfectly if there was only one Australian pack left.
 

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Three roos in a pack is really too many and really cuts a majority of our most notable species represented in zoos in Australia. I would be upset if 3 roos were added. It would be like adding 3 types of deer or 3 types of otters to a single DLC pack.

I recently revised to an alternate pack which is just Australian animals and came up with this conbo which would fill the niche perfectly if there was only one Australian pack left.
The thing is, marsupials are THE species associated with Australia and only found there. Whereas deer are found all over the world. Marsupials can't be included in other region based DLC, they can only come in Australia / Down under / Oceania DLCs. So that's where they'll need to be. That's why there will never be too many marsupials in this DLC. Whereas deer can come in any DLC, so 3 deer in one DLC would indeed be overkill. So I don't think this is a fair comparison :)

I will fully admit I am biased against most birds and small animals, so I would never appreciate something like an echidna and would choose most animals over a bird any day. The reason I did choose the emu is because it is an Australian icon, and I struggle to find another iconic habitat animal for New Zealand than the Kiwi.
 
If we revisit Oceania, there are three must haves for me:

  • Tasmanian devil
  • Emu
  • a Wallaby!

Wallabies are super common in captivity in zoos around the world, when I visit a zoo I sooner expect to see a wallaby than a kangaroo. So for me, if we revisit Oceania, the animal pack would be:

1. Tasmanian devil, representing Tasmania.
2. Emu, the iconic Australian land bird.
3. Kiwi, representing New Zealand.
4. Exhibit animal: Tuatara, also from New Zealand, representing a new reptile type.
5. a Tree kangaroo, from New Guinea.
and some more marsupials from Australia, because there's never enough marsupials:
6. Wombat, basically a cute furry ground koala.
7. a Wallaby species, such as the Bennett's wallaby or the Yellow footed rock wallaby.
8. either a Wallaroo or a Grey kangaroo. I'd prefer the Eastern grey kangaroo for the last slot, as it is so different from the red kangaroo and would be a nice way to finalize our kangaroo roster, giving us a small, medium, and large species in the wallaby, grey kangaroo, and red kangaroo.

Example:
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So so close! Just change the grey for a platypus and it’s perfect for me
 
So so close! Just change the grey for a platypus and it’s perfect for me
I'd be fine with a platypus too! But they're so rare in captivity and so difficult to keep, often dying rather quickly, that I don't include them in my lists anymore these days and would rather see species that are easy to keep in captivity, that do well in captivity, or are frequently seen in captivity.
 
I'd be fine with a platypus too! But they're so rare in captivity and so difficult to keep, often dying rather quickly, that I don't include them in my lists anymore these days and would rather see species that are easy to keep in captivity, that do well in captivity, or are frequently seen in captivity.

Do you use pangolins or proboscis monkeys in your zoos?

Personally I would find it strange to arbitrarily exclude platypus from your zoos in PZ and still use pangolins and proboscis monkeys (they are also hard to keep in captivity).

I understand your perspective. Platypus might take away from the realism, but if that is the case then so does having pangolins and proboscis monkey.
 
My ultimate Australia animal pack would include:

1 Emu
2 Any wallaby

These two are essentials for me that are seen in almost every zoo from roadside farms to multi million dollar conservation operations. Not having them in the game is odd.

3. Another bird species. Black swan, lyre bird, Victoria crowned pigeon, bin turkey cough I mean bald ibis. There are many unique Australian birds that could be kept as habitat animals. If we include Oceania as a whole there are also kiwis, megapods, and several iconic penguins. I feel that birds are as important as marsupials for properly representing this part of the world and we have a lack of birds in general, so bring them on!

4. Echidna or platypus. I would personally rather an echidna as it's more common in captivity, but at least one monotreme.

5. Tree kangaroo
6. Wombat
7. Tasmanian Devil

More marsupials. A cute teddy bear climber, a rolly polly digger to use the new burrows, and a carnivore to be the face of the pack.

Exhibit: It's going to be the stick insect if it happens and I'm okay with that. We don't have a stick insect and Lord Howe's has a neat conservation story attached to it.
 
I'd be fine with a platypus too! But they're so rare in captivity and so difficult to keep, often dying rather quickly, that I don't include them in my lists anymore these days and would rather see species that are easy to keep in captivity, that do well in captivity, or are frequently seen in captivity.
They’re recent to captivity outside of Australia but they are doing it! They’re in San Diego zoo and Australia is actively trying to move them to more worldwide zoos but the pandemic slowed their progress. Platypuses would be fine to add!
 
Do you use pangolins or proboscis monkeys in your zoos?

Personally I would find it strange to arbitrarily exclude platypus from your zoos in PZ and still use pangolins and proboscis monkeys (they are also hard to keep in captivity).

I understand your perspective. Platypus might take away from the realism, but if that is the case then so does having pangolins and proboscis monkey.
To your question: No, but for other reasons 😅

Again, I'm fine with the platypus. They're cool! It wouldn't be my personal pick for a DLC, but if they were included I'd probably use them in my zoos.
 
They’re recent to captivity outside of Australia but they are doing it! They’re in San Diego zoo and Australia is actively trying to move them to more worldwide zoos but the pandemic slowed their progress. Platypuses would be fine to add!
Do you know if they are currently kept successfully in captivity? As in, the animals doing well?
 
To your question: No, but for other reasons 😅

Again, I'm fine with the platypus. They're cool! It wouldn't be my personal pick for a DLC, but if they were included I'd probably use them in my zoos.

I don't want cetaceans in PZ, so I understand why you don't want platypi? You want to keep it real. I can respect that. (But I still think Platypus would be pretty awesome in PZ, I loved the proboscis monkey's)
 
My personal choices:
1. Tasmanian Devil - Flagship
2. Emu
3. Common or Southern Hairy-Nosed Wombat (either one)
4. Platypus
5. Short-Beaked Echidna
6. Goodfellow's Tree-Kangaroo
7. North Island Brown Kiwi
E. Tuatara
 
The only thing I don’t want are extinct animals and even they would be fun. I don’t know why people are so opposed to stuff. Aquatics and aviaries would shake up building and really add to the fun factor of the game. I get it realism and all that but cetaceans and aquariums are realistic. And planet zoo has never been concerned about realism in the past. (Keepers walking into lion habitats) I understand people don’t want the dev time to go into certain things but idk actively being against it seems harsh to me. Like there’s others that genuinely want the things they want. The game would attract so many people if they shook it up sooner. I just really want PZ to thrive
 
The only thing I don’t want are extinct animals and even they would be fun. I don’t know why people are so opposed to stuff. Aquatics and aviaries would shake up building and really add to the fun factor of the game. I get it realism and all that but cetaceans and aquariums are realistic. And planet zoo has never been concerned about realism in the past. (Keepers walking into lion habitats) I understand people don’t want the dev time to go into certain things but idk actively being against it seems harsh to me. Like there’s others that genuinely want the things they want. The game would attract so many people if they shook it up sooner. I just really want PZ to thrive
I think people are opposed to things because the game won’t last forever and the unfortunate reality means if one thing is included another will be excluded. So they are advocating for those spaces to be saved for things they want as opposed to what they don’t want. People might also have ethical concerns (orcas for example) or think that as there are other extinct animal games Planet Zoo should focus solely on living species.
 
I think people are opposed to things because the game won’t last forever and the unfortunate reality means if one thing is included another will be excluded. So they are advocating for those spaces to be saved for things they want as opposed to what they don’t want. People might also have ethical concerns (orcas for example) or think that as there are other extinct animal games Planet Zoo should focus solely on living species.
I get it but I think it actively hurts others from speaking out with their ideas because they feel like the whole community is against them. I know we’re all able to say what we want and what we don’t but I feel like sometimes people are little harsh sometimes. That’s probably my main point
 
To fill the remaining slots for the oceanic region. Here are the ones I think we'll fit. This would be an 8 pack since there had already been themed items released.
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I really wanted to at the platypus as it is my fav Aussie animal, however I went for the Perentie because of a lack of reptile habitats, I would be totally ok with a platypus instead of Perentie.
Great choices, i would maybe choose the platypus instead of the echidna (i want both though lol)
 
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