DW2 : Revenge is a dish best served...

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do griefers or gankers really give a crap about the BGS?

Some do. It’s their whole justification.

For somebody who doesn't care about PvP or DG2, you sure seem to care about it a whole lot.

If I can get someone else to care on my behalf it only ensures I can continue to not care. Besides, it’s fun to put beehives in other peoples’ picnic baskets.

You underestimate the artism I am willing to go through to counter you though... I am just as good at PVE as I am PVP, back in my PVE days I used to run an entire BGS groups from a spreadsheet.

Oh no, I do appreciate it, in fact, I count on it.

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But there is actually a lot more being said here, largely on the State of the Game. Great Machiavellian schemes are really not possible, and they should be. It gives everyone things to do, and ways to engage in oppositional play, without direct confrontation. Can’t out-fight a group? Then sabotage their influence.

Kill a man and he is dead. Destroy his reputation and he has to live with it. - Someone (in)famous, in some form or another.

But I’m sure there are few who would argue against such depth of play in Elite, as this sort of thing is lacking, or only happens in GalNet articles we only get to read passively.

But give us subtlety, give us indirect means to strike out, and the stars will run brown with mudslinging, and red with the blood of the enemies of my enemies.
 
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If I can get someone else to care on my behalf it only ensures I can continue to not care.

But why would you need to ensure that you do not need to care by getting someone else to care, if you do not care in the first place? I'm sorry Indigo, but that's very strange reasoning. And I use the word reasoning loosely.

Besides, it’s fun to put beehives in other peoples’ picnic baskets.

Now that's griefer-talk right there! ;)
 
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Let us know the gankers' factions .. and we can undermine them, while they're away from home chasing you lot.

naming and shaming a faction isn't naming and shaming now is it.

Considering the lists of DG2 participants being posted here and on Reddit it shouldn’t be too hard to find some interesting connections.
 
When I think gankers wanting to ruin the fun for everyone this comes to mind:

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except they are in their mom's basement screaming for her to bring them another juice box...
 
I applaud your creativity, but the in-game mechanics for such an operation would punish all players who carry weapons whether or not they are "griefers" and, perhaps more importantly, those in-game mechanics simply don't exist in the current game, and I highly doubt FD would go to the trouble of coding them for a CG.

<cough> squadrons </cough>
 

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Besieger is aware of that and he posted an image above showing the SDC faction with low influence. The point being, the "gankers" by and large don't care a jot about the BGS (despite the weird claim regarding spreadsheet antics), so I don't see any point in focusing on it as some sort of revenge.

They don't care about the BGS at all, well except for the first time their influence got taken down. Oh and there was of course the rather backfired demonstration of how Open only BGS was needed.

The whole point is to pretend not to be bothered about something, when people use it against you. Even if that means changing around what you're not bothered about :)
 
When I think gankers wanting to ruin the fun for everyone this comes to mind:

except they are in their mom's basement screaming for her to bring them another juice box...

IDK, man. I'm doing OK.

Mom's basement is a little damp though.

Why do you think we use the word "dank" so much?
 

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When I think gankers wanting to ruin the fun for everyone this comes to mind:
except they are in their mom's basement screaming for her to bring them another juice box...

Aw that's cute.

Think how short that South Park episode would have been if the boys had all just cried and fled into Solo.
 
They don't care about the BGS at all, well except for the first time their influence got taken down. Oh and there was of course the rather backfired demonstration of how Open only BGS was needed.

The whole point is to pretend not to be bothered about something, when people use it against you. Even if that means changing around what you're not bothered about :)

Interesting how mods are still fomenting discord with all the "us vs. them" rhetoric here.

I thought you guys stopped doing that when you kicked 'ole Mumu.

Guess some things never change.
 
They don't care about the BGS at all, well except for the first time their influence got taken down. Oh and there was of course the rather backfired demonstration of how Open only BGS was needed.

The whole point is to pretend not to be bothered about something, when people use it against you. Even if that means changing around what you're not bothered about :)

 
When I think gankers wanting to ruin the fun for everyone this comes to mind:
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except they are in their mom's basement screaming for her to bring them another juice box...

Using stereotyped generalisations like that doesn't help, it just makes you look like a broomhead.
 

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They don't care about the BGS at all, well except for the first time their influence got taken down. Oh and there was of course the rather backfired demonstration of how Open only BGS was needed.

The whole point is to pretend not to be bothered about something, when people use it against you. Even if that means changing around what you're not bothered about :)

Yet again blurring everyone under the 'gweefer' umbrella term again I see, with the preferred curated pro PvE forum version of events being trotted out again for another lap.

The 'gweefer' groups like SDC or pirate groups like CODE dont give a jot about their BGS, unless it can be used to troll a massive tonne of salt out of people (see: every person with a Mobius related signature, after being beaten by SDC in the Colonia group implementation event). I can tell you this based on the amount of laughter that was going on whenever a chest thumping post about 14hr+ BGS grinding was done against them regarding how that poster was wasting their time.

The people youre referring to arent griefers, far from it. They were usually the early big empire-building groups and their leaders for whom the BGS was life, making their opinions known, that in their minds BGS play done behind a min/max safety wall was bad for the game as they played it, and would lead to a toxic atmosphere regarding BGS Wars.

Which incidentally, it did. On many occasions (see: UGC vs Achenar Immortals)
 
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We like easy, right?
Yes you do. If I go by your little band of acount of events, you're having a lot of fun shooting down explorers.

The having a jolly, those who want to avoid them have the modes.

The only players missing out are the real PvPers looking for a challenge.
 
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