That is true, I have to pay a monthly fee for insurance. This is covered in lore by Pilot's Federation membership. (In the same way we don't get any interest on our credit balances from the Bank of Zaonce, those greedy sods...)
General Economy is broken! Rebuying is ridiculous! Who pay other 95% of ship's price?
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You are a CMDR, only members of the Pilots Federations are CMDRs, and visible as hollow squares/triangles instead of filled ones.
You are not a member of the Federation, Empire or Alliance, apparently, but those are not related to the Pilots Federation.
Whatever...lol I see myself as a lone miner, seeking fortune and starting a business. don't do multiplayer or teams if ever, tried that many times in my 20 years of gaming, never went well. so I might be a member of some group simply because of the area I live and work in but to have me sign up for one would be out of the question.
Those who can't grind generally won't grind, thus they already take precautions against having to eat a rebuy. If you're strictly PvE, you only get your ship blown up if you allow it.
To PvP requires grind.
We have two new players in our squadron. Less than ten hours playtime each and they're both in A-rated Cobras with nearly 100mil in cash.
Amazing what wing missions can do for newbs.
That's an exploit and you know it.
The fact that they replace the kind of exciting money grind with a boring engineering grind is not your problem?
Cool.
I got news for you precious one, your problem is not my problem!
We have no problems, all problems are solved because not a single problem is universal.
No, it isn't my problem.
Nor is engineering caused by players having credits.
So in addition to having a problem with something that other people don't, and acting like your opinion is universal truth, you also blame those personal problems for creating other problems that they didn't.
How?
Yeah, i don't think i could get 100 million in 10 hours by myself if i was starting out from new. But if i were a newbie, and joined a group, and with their help, i reckon 100 million is quite possible without exploiting.
Its not an exploit when FD make it rain credits for minimal effort.
Other players don't have a problem with the boring engineering grind???
Your lack of reading skills is not my problem. It's probably not your problem either.
But where did I say that the engineering grind is caused by easy money?
FDev declared it's not an exploit because they cba to fix it. That doesn't mean it's not an exploit.
The economy is broken and it wouldn't take that much effort to fix it and make ED a much more interesting game.
I know what I would buy in Elite when I could ... a bigger bag
where did I say thatOther players don't have a problem with the boring engineering grind???
Your lack of reading skills is not my problem. It's probably not your problem either.
But where did I say that the engineering grind is caused by easy money?
don't make up things I didn't say and blame my reading skills for not knowing what the hell you're going on about
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See? This is you declaring the replacement of money grind with engineering grind as a problem.
Engineering grind is not caused by the lack of money grind.
Buying in game money to buy/outfit ships, is ok, for those with cash to splash/spare, they also did that in Eve Online using Plex, and you ended up with 2 things.
1. Better off folks got good stuff too easy, ideal for them if they had the skills as well to get the T2 then T3 stuff to work efficiently.
2. less skilled folks could buy, decent T1 ships they were not skilled enough to outfit correctly with top end kit and also had little idea how to use the ship properly/effectively in most part due obtaining it too early in their skill training. THERE WAS NO EFFECTIVE INSURANCE! IN EVEONLINE, you blew up you lost your ship, it made you work on EARNING more in game money and your skills, it made you more aware of NOT doing dumb things in game to often. also most folks in EVE were encouraged to be in a Corp where you could learn the best way to progress and you had support from Corp members especially if the Corp was well run.
The Golden Rule was never fly anything you could not afford to loose.
It made folks prudent in there game play made them better Corp mates as you often worked together, to earn and share the proceeds. most of that went by the way side with Plex, you bought, then sold Plex in Jita(which was a real S**t h**e" laggy as hell until they finally put that one system on its own server as you could be scanned, scrambled and blown up by the time you knew it lol.
Eventually many became YOLO, lost the Corp cohesiveness and the work ethic, and it simply became, buy a ship shoot S**t lose it and buy another so long as you had real money to spare. Been there done that. It became boring after 10+ years of playing.
1. Better off folks got good stuff too easy, ideal for them if they had the skills as well to get the T2 then T3 stuff to work efficiently.
2. less skilled folks could buy, decent T1 ships they were not skilled enough to outfit correctly with top end kit and also had little idea how to use the ship properly/effectively in most part due obtaining it too early in their skill training. THERE WAS NO EFFECTIVE INSURANCE! IN EVEONLINE, you blew up you lost your ship, it made you work on EARNING more in game money and your skills, it made you more aware of NOT doing dumb things in game to often. also most folks in EVE were encouraged to be in a Corp where you could learn the best way to progress and you had support from Corp members especially if the Corp was well run.
The Golden Rule was never fly anything you could not afford to loose.
It made folks prudent in there game play made them better Corp mates as you often worked together, to earn and share the proceeds. most of that went by the way side with Plex, you bought, then sold Plex in Jita(which was a real S**t h**e" laggy as hell until they finally put that one system on its own server as you could be scanned, scrambled and blown up by the time you knew it lol.
Eventually many became YOLO, lost the Corp cohesiveness and the work ethic, and it simply became, buy a ship shoot S**t lose it and buy another so long as you had real money to spare. Been there done that. It became boring after 10+ years of playing.
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Why? Not everyone who plays ED is antisocial. What fun would it be to wing up and do missions if you don't get paid? I can't help if a mining mission offering 50mil lets me buy the ores/minerals at another station.
That's the definition of the word exploit.Why? Not everyone who plays ED is antisocial. What fun would it be to wing up and do missions if you don't get paid? I can't help if a mining mission offering 50mil lets me buy the ores/minerals at another station.
Not an exploit. It's an approved game mechanic by FDev.
Low frame rate is also a by FDev approved game mechanic.
An exploit is an exploit.
Well I pay about $1,100/yr insurance for my $45k vehicle. That equates to about 2.5%, half of what the current game insurance is. SAy I play the game for 2 years, my usual attention span for a game, that's 5%, so it seems pretty in-line with todays vehicle insurance.
That said, what's the OP's point? Does the amount of space cash floating around the universe bug him and he just wants it to go away or something? As was pointed out numerous times above, not everyone (probably not close to most even) who plays ED, grinds cash.... They play to have fun and scrimp by with what they have. This would literally ruin the game for them if they had one accident.