Blackcompany
Banned
That's lifted straight from the Chris Roberts playbook.
As a video game, Elite is as shallow, uninspired and an much of an exercise in tedium as you can get.
Stellar forge is different, and deserves recognition for the complexity and scope it has. But it's not a video game.
Take away the game names, and you can no longer tell the difference between a discussion about Elite and one about Star Citizen. Its all just theory crafting and promises of updates to come. One day.