ED vs PvP

We need some good pvp in elite, there are tons of offline and careerbear games out-

theres only one game - eve online - where you can be save all the time in high sec, or you can get pvp all the time in low...

Hope elite evolves in this direction to get more players and a we get better game.
 
We need some good pvp in elite, there are tons of offline and careerbear games out-

theres only one game - eve online - where you can be save all the time in high sec, or you can get pvp all the time in low...

Hope elite evolves in this direction to get more players and a we get better game.

EVE actually appeals to quite a limited population. Elite can do better.
 
If you think this game has a future as "euro truck simulator in space" flying from A to B where the only difference is the prices on the market for goods...you'd be in a for big surprise since no sane person would spend longer than a week in such a game without dying from boredom.

Your "euro truck simulator" describes the original Elite pretty well, which I played quite happily across various platforms for ~10 years.

If you think insulting people is going to make them want to play MP with you, then I suspect you're the one who's in for a big surprise.
 
Day 1
Made private group, ran several missions, bought a hauler made 300k in first 4 hours.

Day 2
Rejoined private group, bought a lakon type 6, ran a 2 system trade route making 180k profit every 10 minutes for about 8 hours.

Day 3
Rejoined private group, bought lakon type 9, ran a 3 system trade route making 800k profit every 10 minutes for 8 hours

Day 4
YARR! Me and several friends joined Multiplayer in our Anacondas and vipers and stupidly large amounts of cash in our cred banks and killed every player we could see for about 8 hours (didn't lose a single ship)

Day 5
Went back to EvE.
 
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Your "euro truck simulator" describes the original Elite pretty well, which I played quite happily across various platforms for ~10 years.

If you think insulting people is going to make them want to play MP with you, then I suspect you're the one who's in for a big surprise.

He ment that ppl with different preferences are all insane? Interesting thinking....

Beside I think there are a lot of ppl who like to play euro truck simulator else there won't be sequels.
 
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Day 1
Made private group, ran several missions, bought a hauler made 300k in first 4 hours.

Day 2
Rejoined private group, bought a lakon type 6, ran a 2 system trade route making 180k profit every 10 minutes for about 8 hours.

Day 3
Rejoined private group, bought lakon type 9, ran a 3 system trade route making 800k profit every 10 minutes for 8 hours

Day 4
YARR! Me and several friends joined Multiplayer in our Anacondas and vipers and stupidly large amounts of cash in our cred banks and killed every player we could see for about 8 hours (didn't lose a single ship)

Day 5
Went back to EvE.

Probably where you belong.
 
Day 1
Made private group, ran several missions, bought a hauler made 300k in first 4 hours.

Day 2
Rejoined private group, bought a lakon type 6, ran a 2 system trade route making 180k profit every 10 minutes for about 8 hours.

Day 3
Rejoined private group, bought lakon type 9, ran a 3 system trade route making 800k profit every 10 minutes for 8 hours

Day 4
YARR! Me and several friends joined Multiplayer in our Anacondas and vipers and stupidly large amounts of cash in our cred banks and killed every player we could see for about 8 hours (didn't lose a single ship)

Day 5
Went back to EvE.

So in short you did grind ,grind,grind,grind,grind,grind (this part was familiar) than found it out this is not EVE with cockpit so back to EVE.

The result would had been the same if you did this all in open play mode.

Beside have you realized that the prices are low as it is becasue of beta purposes?
 
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Day 1
Made private group, ran several missions, bought a hauler made 300k in first 4 hours.

Day 2
Rejoined private group, bought a lakon type 6, ran a 2 system trade route making 180k profit every 10 minutes for about 8 hours.

Day 3
Rejoined private group, bought lakon type 9, ran a 3 system trade route making 800k profit every 10 minutes for 8 hours

Day 4
YARR! Me and several friends joined Multiplayer in our Anacondas and vipers and stupidly large amounts of cash in our cred banks and killed every player we could see for about 8 hours (didn't lose a single ship)

Day 5
Went back to EvE.


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I wonder how many times this subject will reappear !

And funnily enough it is the same posters that carry on on different titles bringing back this subject, perhaps the moderators could hand out a few cool down periods:)
 
I wonder how many times this subject will reappear !

And funnily enough it is the same posters that carry on on different titles bringing back this subject, perhaps the moderators could hand out a few cool down periods:)

I am the OP of this thread & you really need to check someone's posting history before making such sweeping statements, this is the only thread I've created on the subject matter of PvP. Try getting your facts right. :rolleyes:
 
I wonder how many times this subject will reappear !

And funnily enough it is the same posters that carry on on different titles bringing back this subject, perhaps the moderators could hand out a few cool down periods:)

Yeah, better block everybody who has a differing opinion than yours. God forbid anything actually gets discussed on the forums.

These threads keep popping up because there is a sizable portion of the player-base that disagrees with one of the design decisions, and we are trying to come up with a solution that will please everyone without compromising the vision of the game. Is that so much to ask?
 
Yeah, better block everybody who has a differing opinion than yours. God forbid anything actually gets discussed on the forums.

These threads keep popping up because there is a sizable portion of the player-base that disagrees with one of the design decisions, and we are trying to come up with a solution that will please everyone without compromising the vision of the game. Is that so much to ask?

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Edited to add: And you are wrong to claim a 'sizeable portion of the player base' The player base is about 40,000 people. There are about 30 - 40 of you who don't like the game as it is (figure derived from the actual polls your side have posted).
 
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Edited to add: And you are wrong to claim a 'sizeable portion of the player base' The player base is about 40,000 people. There are about 30 - 40 of you who don't like the game as it is (figure derived from the actual polls your side have posted).

There are many people who like PVP and PAP. Not everyone bothers to discuss it. Currently the old-Elite fans are the majority, but there will be many more new players, with fresh opinions to Elite who also like more PVP, PAP.
 
There are many people who like PVP and PAP. Not everyone bothers to discuss it. Currently the old-Elite fans are the majority, but there will be many more new players, with fresh opinions to Elite who also like more PVP, PAP.

I am not denying that. That is a bit straw-manish imo. What I am saying is, ALL I am saying is, that is wrong for him to claim a sizeable proportion of the player base as if it were a fact when he cannot know that.
 
I am not denying that. That is a bit straw-manish imo. What I am saying is, ALL I am saying is, that is wrong for him to claim a sizeable proportion of the player base as if it were a fact when he cannot know that.

According to the poll thread, it's closer to 25% for people in favor of offering for an always online mode (one of the solutions to the problem discussed here). There were 73 / ~300 people who voted yes, which is roughly 25%.

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But yeah, I think that figure will increase as more "general" players join in later in the beta and gamma. Right now we have a much higher concentration of players of the older elite games, who happen to lean more towards group-switching from what I've observed. Even if that wasn't the case, 25% is too large a figure to ignore.
 
You can PvP all you want. Just expect repercussions. Half the players who favor PvP seem to want to be able to attack other people without consequence. Preferably in a superior ship because the trader they are attacking is not into combat.

ED is trying to be a simulation of an alternate universe that shares much in common with our own. There are over 300 million guns in civilian hands in the USA, All the security forces including police and the millitary have about 5 million.

Despite all this you don't get that many shootings. Just an occasional one in bad neighborhoods and the police rarely take chances on gunmen and are quick to respond and retaliate. Elite will be similar only vigilantism or bounty hunting will be less frowned upon.

Only times I have been PvP'd have been rare. Once in a station and once by someone on my own side in a conflict zone. So far they have all shown themselves to be cowardly backstabbers.

Makes PvP something hard to support. I'm not totaly anti PvP. I've been playing War Thunder arcade battles with joystick the 9 months prior to ED and fully modded/aced 200 airplanes. That game was designed with PvP in mind, you even get rewards and can progress when you die with minimal loss except time for free repairs and the effect on your battle ratings.

Elite just isn't a PvP oriented game.

Ant max, I generally agree with your posts. I don't agree in this case, Elite can be as PVP as you choose. Pirate is one way, fighting players in war zones is another, being a killer is another. Some will be proud of the bounty they attain. Every game needs psychos, that's why I always goto the hanger in a space station for fear of being tanked on the pad, irrational maybe, fun definitely.

BTW I think it was me who killed you in the conflict zone if it was in Premium Beta, why you might ask? I noticed my shields reduced to half and you were flashing. It was retaliation not a mindless kill. Maybe you were hitting me accidentaly but I don't tend to wait to find out. There again it may not have been you. I have a list of kill on sight enemies from Premium Beta, great fun. It's the fear of getting killed that makes this game fun. The unpredictability, the sandbox. It should be as combat orientated pvp or pve as you want with healthy constant fear if you don't.

BTW I've been player killed about 30+ times. I've lost over 150k in one death. As long as I get their name I'm ok with that. There were some griefing tactics at conflict zones when player groups wanted all the kills which was irritating. Snipe shots to take out your shields and 50% hull in sidey from a cobra. Ver irritating. All gone since Beta though.
 
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I am not denying that. That is a bit straw-manish imo. What I am saying is, ALL I am saying is, that is wrong for him to claim a sizeable proportion of the player base as if it were a fact when he cannot know that.

Yet you claim to know that only 0.1% of people aren't happy with the current state....but if someone disagrees, they can't possibly know. :rolleyes:

To talk about 'sides' in this debate is disingenuous. There is a small handful of vocal people disagreeing with a small handful of vocal people, and they are drowning out all the constructive talk about the game with this same circular discussion. You are one of the worst offenders.
 
Go PvP in the designated areas and have fun. PvP anywhere else and expect to be prey. Innocent traders will get pirated if they hang out in the less safe systems. Pirates will get taken care of in the safer systems.

It's beta and the balancing act has barely started. In time FD will make it work as intended. I'm not really sure what the point of all the arguing is except for the sake of it. We have a way to go before we know how it will be. PB was not fun because of all the psychos.

Beta I can fly around in an unarmed hauler without any consequence. Now I'm a fast long distance courier in a viper that only has the loaned pulse laser and nothing else and can pretty much go where I like at short notice.
 
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