Release EDDI - Windows app for immersion and more

[VerticalBlank]

Well, it's not hard to reach Cmdr TheThingIs' conclusion, a conclusion which I share, but I have confidence that experienced folk will step up and carry the torch.

If nobody else steps up then I will, although my experience is more on the Win32/C++ side and I haven't had much to do with C#/.NET. I've already taken on jgm's ref card generator, which I am now hosting at https://edrefcard.info/. Since EDDI is already open source on GitHub, it could easily be made a collaborative project.

jgm hasn't elaborated on his reasons for moving on, and that's his prerogative. Personally I think he's done a fantastic job and people don't always realise what a burden maintaining projects like these can be. He's done the responsible thing by seeking a successor rather that just closing the projects down, so I feel talk of abandonment is a bit over the top. Anyhow, if any more experienced C#/.NET devs are willing to pitch in, I'll gladly give way.

 

[sutex]

If nobody else steps up then I will, although my experience is more on the Win32/C++ side and I haven't had much to do with C#/.NET. I've already taken on jgm's ref card generator, which I am now hosting at https://edrefcard.info/. Since EDDI is already open source on GitHub, it could easily be made a collaborative project.

jgm hasn't elaborated on his reasons for moving on, and that's his prerogative. Personally I think he's done a fantastic job and people don't always realise what a burden maintaining projects like these can be. He's done the responsible thing by seeking a successor rather that just closing the projects down, so I feel talk of abandonment is a bit over the top. Anyhow, if any more experienced C#/.NET devs are willing to pitch in, I'll gladly give way.

So jgm has moved on ?.... well well .. good luck the new guys.... I'm willing to help as I know a bit of code, but I feel lemon juice and a hot fire , just wont cut the mustard ..

 

[J. Calvert (Joshua)]

Why are some of us thinking JGM is abandoning EDDI ?

His last two posts (quoted below) are about his reference card generator and EDDI.

In his post about Refcard he asks for someone to take over (and VerticalBlank did) because he doesn't have time to maintain that anymore.

But in his EDDI post he only says there won't be new features added in the foreseeable future but he doesn't say he will abandon it. And he asks for other developers to help out.

It could be I'm not reading it right as English isn't my first language but i'm not convinced JGM has moved on yet.


Quote about Reference card:

.... I no longer have time to maintain this site, and am asking if anyone would like to take over its operation. ...

Quote about EDDI:

..... Also, this is likely to be the last EDDI release for a while. With the exception of any critical bugfixes I'm not planning on adding features in the foreseeable future. However, the community for EDDI is active, especially around changes to personalities, and I'm sure that many of the knowledgeable people on this and related threads will continue to help out with questions and enhancing EDDI's presence with better scripts. If there are any C# developers interested in adding features to EDDI or carrying on with maintaining it then feel free to drop me a PM. ....

 

[Tkael]

Why are some of us thinking JGM is abandoning EDDI ?

His last two posts (quoted below) are about his reference card generator and EDDI.

In his post about Refcard he asks for someone to take over (and VerticalBlank did) because he doesn't have time to maintain that anymore.

But in his EDDI post he only says there won't be new features added in the foreseeable future but he doesn't say he will abandon it. And he asks for other developers to help out.

It could be I'm not reading it right as English isn't my first language but i'm not convinced JGM has moved on yet.


Quote about Reference card:


Quote about EDDI:

I think that's a fair statement. I'd love to help with any sort of EDDI collaboration but I'd be approaching C# as an enthusiastic novice - I have essentially no formal training. To turn this into a strong collaborative project, we need at least a few volunteers who really know what they are doing and could impose some discipline on the development process.

 

[TheThingIs]

well I hope jgm steps back in, eddi is very very good but I've looked at the code and it'll take a very good coder, as jgm obviously is, to pick it up. Sutex, despite you seemingly trying to prove that I'm against eddi you are very very wrong. MaterialCollected is just a placeholder, there is no code in it that does anything. Good luck though, atleast I don't have to help and deal with your attitude anymore

 

[sutex]

 

[PaulBM]

Does anyone have answer to a problem I and a friend are having with EDDI, well actually it's Window's TTSpeech? We can only hear the voices if we use our speakers, no TTS output comes through on our USB headsets. Both Windows 7 and Windows 10 seem to have the same issue. I'm sure someone must have a solution? Please help.

 

[Tkael]

Does anyone have answer to a problem I and a friend are having with EDDI, well actually it's Window's TTSpeech? We can only hear the voices if we use our speakers, no TTS output comes through on our USB headsets. Both Windows 7 and Windows 10 seem to have the same issue. I'm sure someone must have a solution? Please help.

This should help with that. http://bfy.tw/DL1O

 

[Stivl Writh]

In the next version, is it possible to add a row in the Material Monitor to put the translation of each material by the user, and retrieve these translation in the materialmonitor.json, so, for any player of any country it will be more easy to use.

The best would be to use the translation if the column is filled or to use the material in English if not.

 

[Tkael]

Is anyone here going to the Frontier Expo?

It might be helpful for a few attendees to advocate for fixes to some of the things FDev have broken over time in the data streams EDDI uses. See here (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...neering-Data?p=5405801&viewfull=1#post5405801) for a detailed list of items JGM has identified as having been broken by changes in the data FDev provides. Essentially, FDev removed useful and detailed information from the companion API and did not add the same information to the journal, leaving us without the detailed information we previously had available on our ship builds (including engineering), without detailed data on cargo, etc.

FDev has, for a long time not given much consideration to 3rd party app developers. So much so that many of them briefly went on strike earlier this year (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...dparty-Why-we-temporarily-shut-down-our-sites). FDev needs to hear from the playerbase that we care about the player journal, companion app, and other tools used to make our gaming experience richer. The Frontier Expo might be a great venue for getting a conversation going with the right people.

 

[ranix]

I think EDDI is not uploading system population correctly to EDDB or EDSM. I made a few jumps around the Pleiades and noticed EDDI didn't know the systems were populated. I tried to find out what was wrong and noticed the population numbers in EDDB were wrong for the Pleiades systems. I updated them manually in ROSS.

I should have been uploading system information with EDDI though. Is EDDI failing to update population for systems when it sends data to the cloud?

One of the systems was https://www.edsm.net/en/system/id/22205/name/Pleiades+Sector+IR-W+d1-55

 

[AnthorNet]

I think EDDI is not uploading system population correctly to EDDB or EDSM. I made a few jumps around the Pleiades and noticed EDDI didn't know the systems were populated. I tried to find out what was wrong and noticed the population numbers in EDDB were wrong for the Pleiades systems. I updated them manually in ROSS.

I should have been uploading system information with EDDI though. Is EDDI failing to update population for systems when it sends data to the cloud?

One of the systems was https://www.edsm.net/en/system/id/22205/name/Pleiades+Sector+IR-W+d1-55

Population are only a manual process, no API/Journal gives them.

 

[Stivl Writh]

I work for a translation of EDDI 2.3.0 for french users, I speak already about this in the french part of this forum (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/368950-EDDI-en-fran%C3%A7ais-c-est-possible-OUI!!!) and open a GitHub page https://github.com/Astilane/EliteDangerousDataProvider With scripts and User Interface in french. Not yet totaly finished, but work fine. (miss translation for some rare)

J'ai fait une version EDDI 2.3.0 pour utilisateurs francophone et ouvert à ce sujet une page GitHub, J'en parle déjà dans la partie "french" de ce forum et j'ai ouvert une page GitHub pour cela. Ce n'est pas encore totalement fini mais déjaà bien fonctionnel. (manque de traduction pour des trucs rares)

 

[Hoodathunk]

Is anyone here going to the Frontier Expo?

It might be helpful for a few attendees to advocate for fixes to some of the things FDev have broken over time in the data streams EDDI uses. See here (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...neering-Data?p=5405801&viewfull=1#post5405801) for a detailed list of items JGM has identified as having been broken by changes in the data FDev provides. Essentially, FDev removed useful and detailed information from the companion API and did not add the same information to the journal, leaving us without the detailed information we previously had available on our ship builds (including engineering), without detailed data on cargo, etc.

FDev has, for a long time not given much consideration to 3rd party app developers. So much so that many of them briefly went on strike earlier this year (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...dparty-Why-we-temporarily-shut-down-our-sites). FDev needs to hear from the playerbase that we care about the player journal, companion app, and other tools used to make our gaming experience richer. The Frontier Expo might be a great venue for getting a conversation going with the right people.

I would like to 2nd this. We as a community of 3rd party app users need to take whatever opportunities are presented to support the 3rd party developers.

 

[carlosmaline]

I would like to 2nd this. We as a community of 3rd party app users need to take whatever opportunities are presented to support the 3rd party developers.

Is anyone here going to the Frontier Expo?

It might be helpful for a few attendees to advocate for fixes to some of the things FDev have broken over time in the data streams EDDI uses. See here (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...neering-Data?p=5405801&viewfull=1#post5405801) for a detailed list of items JGM has identified as having been broken by changes in the data FDev provides. Essentially, FDev removed useful and detailed information from the companion API and did not add the same information to the journal, leaving us without the detailed information we previously had available on our ship builds (including engineering), without detailed data on cargo, etc.

FDev has, for a long time not given much consideration to 3rd party app developers. So much so that many of them briefly went on strike earlier this year (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...dparty-Why-we-temporarily-shut-down-our-sites). FDev needs to hear from the playerbase that we care about the player journal, companion app, and other tools used to make our gaming experience richer. The Frontier Expo might be a great venue for getting a conversation going with the right people.

I'm going and would be happy to ask some questions. As my understanding of coding is limited (but not completely noobish ) I would invite scripted questions that the community would like answering. It would be great to know if jgm is intending to attend. I'd like to shake that man (or woman's) hand.

 

[ranix]

Population are only a manual process, no API/Journal gives them.

oh thanks, that's very helpful!

Do you know if there is a way for me to help correct my favorite systems in EDSM? I corrected some of them in EDDB, but those changes have not been applied to EDSM.

 

[bookmite]

Greetings Cmdrs and developers.

I upgraded EDDI yesterday to the latest version and the update will not authorise due to an issue with the ivona voice I used in the previous builds ..I checked the message details and it seems my license for ivona has expired, I don't know how or if it's possible to roll back the build as EDDI tells me it's a mandatory update.

So I'm thinking I need to remove the voice from the EDDI system files, can someone point me in the right direction please.Either that or find me a patch for ivona :x I haven't even had a response from them

I just don't enjoy playing without it and have become so dependent on the information it gives.

Thank you and fly safe Cmdrs

 

[Brigetiol1]

Hi, Cmdr Bookmite ,

if your 30 days trial is over, and you would like to buy, I can recommend this page, I've purchased my Kimberly voice-pack here:

http://harposoftware.com/en/2-main/s-1/index/brand-ivona/category-single_voices/language-english_usa

Best regards!

 

[bookmite]

Hi, Cmdr Bookmite ,

if your 30 days trial is over, and you would like to buy, I can recommend this page, I've purchased my Kimberly voice-pack here:

http://harposoftware.com/en/2-main/s-1/index/brand-ivona/category-single_voices/language-english_usa

Best regards!

Good to hear from you again Cmdr ...I bought a lifetime license back in February this year for 4 voice packs ...I've since checked the voices with TTS and there's no issues , I think it's something to do with the ivona reader or some dll file messed up ...I just want to know how to remove the voice pack from EDDI as a next step

Thanks László fly safe

 

[Tkael]

Good to hear from you again Cmdr ...I bought a lifetime license back in February this year for 4 voice packs ...I've since checked the voices with TTS and there's no issues , I think it's something to do with the ivona reader or some dll file messed up ...I just want to know how to remove the voice pack from EDDI as a next step

Thanks László fly safe

Here's what I think you need to do:
1. Close completely out of EDDI (& VoiceAttack if you're using that)
2. Navigate to %APPDATA%\EDDI\
3. Either delete or move the file "speech.json" file. This file contains your speech config and will be re-created by EDDI using default values when it is not found when EDDI loads.
4. Restart EDDI (& VoiceAttack if you're using that)
5. You should now be able to complete the update & select from your installed voices.