Release EDDN - Elite Dangerous Data Network. Trading tools sharing info in an unified way.

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Do we still need this tool?

We now have the spread sheet with the system details, but as that does not have all the systems in I am guessing yes (for route planning purposes).

Let me know if you think I am wrong

This have nothing to do with system data. System data is static. That will live on EDSC. EDDN is best described as a broadcasting service for market data.
 
This have nothing to do with system data. System data is static. That will live on EDSC. EDDN is best described as a broadcasting service for market data.

Snuble, I was refering to to the tool that wolverine2710 was refering to in a previous post, that would parse the netLog file and automatically load the system name that the commander is in to TGC (not EDDN)

Sorry if I have caused confusion
 
Don't set up your own, just point your output towards the EDDN - announcement coming Real Soon, I promise (or PM me for insider info...)!

I will go with whatever. This said, with data perhaps available from the iOS app/web service, OCR may be too much trouble for what it's worth. Scrolling, table detection, accuracy, training, etc., are a PITA.

It would be nice to have outfitting info too so it can be redistributed...
 

wolverine2710

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I will go with whatever. This said, with data perhaps available from the iOS app/web service, OCR may be too much trouble for what it's worth. Scrolling, table detection, accuracy, training, etc., are a PITA.

It would be nice to have outfitting info too so it can be redistributed...

And again will be AWOL from Wednesday afternoon till next week Wednesday. This time a small holdiday. If I create post during that time Rosi will make me suffer aka KOS.

Yes the data from the iOS app is freely available for anyone - who digs into it a wee bit. Its safe as in can't cause problems with the ED client BUT there is one big BUT and I quote Michael Brookes.
No - direct access isn't allowed for now. It's something we want to support properly for the future.

Michael

More info can be found in the thread "Companion App: use of data outside the app allowed?"

I agree that outfitting info would be great. Atm its very dynamic (some say fubarred) so it fits more into EDDN then into TGC. I've PM-ed with jamesremuscat last week. EDDN will probably have JSON schemes so it can detect multiple input streams and act accordingly. Its best to start very simple - EMDN like - and built on that.
 

wolverine2710

Tutorial & Guide Writer
Snuble, I was refering to to the tool that wolverine2710 was refering to in a previous post, that would parse the netLog file and automatically load the system name that the commander is in to TGC (not EDDN)

Sorry if I have caused confusion

YES imho we still need that tool. Perhaps less then with SB2. We knew there were 570+ stars but SB2 spreadsheet by Michael had far less systems (the ones with an economy). So in the end it was searching for the needle in the haystack. A captains log would have shown us all systems visited by commanders. TGC could then tell us, you miss systems X,Y,Z. To bad at that time TGC was not operational, not even thought of actually.

For good efficient route planners we do need the systems without an economy as well - to fill the gaps/travels between the economy ones. A captains log tool for Gamma would still be very useful. Especially if it takes into account the systems with an economy. As in the netlog shows were a commander has been. If CL detects you were in a system with an economy but the next system is not in MB's list it means its is in the vicinity, can be uploaded to TGC and then presented (web-api) to tools using TGC so we know that those systems still need to be mapped. After being mapped the route planners can calculate shorter routes. Ofc all systems are important. Another usage is of course that we know which systems were visited, so we know the rate of spreading out into the unknown - I'm sure tools can present this is various ways.

Has any body checked if the netlog logfiles still exist in Gamma?
 
Yep the logs still exist, I have started work on a ruby proof of concept for parsing the log file and then writing writing to another file with a time stamp.

I have also considered submitting the system to the TGC by the REST interface (obviously doing a call first to check if the system is already there) - but it would not have any nearest neighbour data

Is this worth wile?
 

wolverine2710

Tutorial & Guide Writer
Yep the logs still exist, I have started work on a ruby proof of concept for parsing the log file and then writing writing to another file with a time stamp.

I have also considered submitting the system to the TGC by the REST interface (obviously doing a call first to check if the system is already there) - but it would not have any nearest neighbour data

Is this worth wile?

YES. absolutely. Can you check with TornSoul if TGC has already support for uploading this info?

In two 2 hours going on holiday. Will be back next Wednesday ;-(
Then will be back full force, hopefully jamesremuscat has published EDDN by then and we can discuss all sorts of things ;-)
You can ofc start without me ;-)
 
It's still going! It sadly coincided with a couple of absurdly busy weeks IRL for me but there's an alpha test of an EDDN that's just waiting for me to finalise the wording on the announcement and post here about it :)
 
It's still going! It sadly coincided with a couple of absurdly busy weeks IRL for me but there's an alpha test of an EDDN that's just waiting for me to finalise the wording on the announcement and post here about it :)

Looking forwards to this :) :) :) :) :)

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YES. absolutely. Can you check with TornSoul if TGC has already support for uploading this info?

In two 2 hours going on holiday. Will be back next Wednesday ;-(
Then will be back full force, hopefully jamesremuscat has published EDDN by then and we can discuss all sorts of things ;-)
You can ofc start without me ;-)

I have spoken with Tornsoul on this and he is not willing (for the time being at least) to allow the upload of systems without distances as it goes against the main objective of EDSC/TGC : Supply coordinates for starsystems.
 
Subscribing to the thread as I'm really interested and want to help with my website.

Also this should be 'fairly easy' to plugin with the OCR tools some other guys are developing via a JSON API or whatever for automated uploading of data.
 

wolverine2710

Tutorial & Guide Writer
Subscribing to the thread as I'm really interested and want to help with my website.

Also this should be 'fairly easy' to plugin with the OCR tools some other guys are developing via a JSON API or whatever for automated uploading of data.

Please send me PM wrt "help with my website"
YES, OCR tools doing uploads to EDDN would be great. I had that also in mind when I started this thread.
 
Maybe I can renew my request here, if someone is able to get tesseract to compile/run in javascript so it could be used directly in browser, that would be a great asset for 3rd party websites.
 
Maybe I can renew my request here, if someone is able to get tesseract to compile/run in javascript so it could be used directly in browser, that would be a great asset for 3rd party websites.

I don't think it's gonna happen client-side only for tesseract. The only related js seems to be a wrapper for node.js, which is server-side. Tesseract and the leptonica libraries are C/C++ (and I believe some C# ports).

There is Ocrad.js if you wish to experiment, though.
 
Maybe I can renew my request here, if someone is able to get tesseract to compile/run in javascript so it could be used directly in browser, that would be a great asset for 3rd party websites.

See the OCR Project thread. Currently we are developing a Java lib, which should be capable of reading your current screen in the background and parsing it.
There are some drawbacks thou - auto screen capture wont work in fullscreen directx mode yet (windowed fullscreen is fine).
 
Is there anything I can do to help? I'm no programming expert unfortunately but I'm sure I can cobble together an app to test/document the API when its ready.
 

wolverine2710

Tutorial & Guide Writer
Is there anything I can do to help? I'm no programming expert unfortunately but I'm sure I can cobble together an app to test/document the API when its ready.

Well its not live yet but help is always welcomed.
James has RL issues and I'm desperate trying to get my tools thread done.
I think a test app/document could come in handy.
Please PM me and jamesremuscat.
 
This project is just what we need.

However its little troubling to me as it sounds like this is depending on single guy to make it happen (programming?). I'm thinking that aren't there anyone with coding skills (better than mine heh) who could chip in to help? Its okay for project to be ran by single guy, but if that person is then busy on other things... the project ain't going very far now is it.

I have followed and tested several trading tool methods and I'm convinced that EDDN would make all traders lives easier, it would be shame if unreasonable time passed without this project getting started. I'm sad that I cant help with my limited skills.
 
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