Dear Colleagues! EGP players bring to your attention the termination of their participation in the Power Play project. We won first place in this project with the best savings in the game of forces and fully satisfied with our achievements. We hope that the Elite Dangerous players will continue to support this game and will not use mechanics that are not allowed by the rules. (Cheats, bots, etc.). Thanks to all the heads of state for an interesting game for three years since the organization of Yury Grom Power.
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cancer cant simply go away saying hello and closing the door.
So.. does this mean Frontier will now remove Grom from the game?
By all rights, they should.
By all rights, they should.
Jane Turner
Volunteer Moderator
That would require a re-run the dangerous games? ...[sits firmly on both hands just in case]
runs away and hides in the wardrobe twitching uncontrollably
How about just removing him permanently and not replacing him with anyone. That was a major faux-pas on Frontier's part to put him in the game to begin with.
I think Frontier should make a decision on what they want to do with Powerplay. Removing Grom does not fix the fundamental mechanical & Power attribute problems.
CMDR Justinian Octavius
CMDR Justinian Octavius
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first place ... all sorts of competitions, all sorts of places ... You did not understand that this is not an indicator in the game!? Mahon in the first place all year! So what? They are not runs with flags and win-banners, they sometimes loss, but they come back ... and with this they game! Let's count how many victories they have in cycles? other rivals? everything is a complete slag, senseless and merciless .... according to this FD in silents. Strategically goes only to the Global Social Experiment. The whole game is tracing paper from the real world.
They introduced the Force only so that it drags everyone and everyone will be united. But Humanity and the players do not understand it, they just play the toy
The fact of RTP itself is an attempt to identify the strongest who can consolidate Humanity in the game. But Grom force could only win ONE time in the Cycle at the so many years (well, maybe 2-3, I definitely did not count) ... that's all.
the game will continue to live in PP - as the highest manifestation of uselessness, until everyone understands this and goes into one of 11 powers completely, which will create an obvious winner and the others will just die
But the duvet is not glued, but only cracks at the seams due to ambition, pride and disagreement.
And if they drop the Game, those who remain will win. This is a win-win option
The unity of the idea wins! All these PMF, all Powers, all these so-called free pilots - 5 years ... push the water in a mortar!
nothing terrible happened. The game continues.
the horse is dead, but she cannot die. Someone else will ride a horse again.
They introduced the Force only so that it drags everyone and everyone will be united. But Humanity and the players do not understand it, they just play the toy
The fact of RTP itself is an attempt to identify the strongest who can consolidate Humanity in the game. But Grom force could only win ONE time in the Cycle at the so many years (well, maybe 2-3, I definitely did not count) ... that's all.
the game will continue to live in PP - as the highest manifestation of uselessness, until everyone understands this and goes into one of 11 powers completely, which will create an obvious winner and the others will just die
But the duvet is not glued, but only cracks at the seams due to ambition, pride and disagreement.
And if they drop the Game, those who remain will win. This is a win-win option
The unity of the idea wins! All these PMF, all Powers, all these so-called free pilots - 5 years ... push the water in a mortar!
nothing terrible happened. The game continues.
the horse is dead, but she cannot die. Someone else will ride a horse again.
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Yeah, sorry, but the machine translation really let you down this time. As a native English speaker, I cannot understand that at all.
"the duvet is not glued" is right up there with the Monty Python sketch "my hovercraft is full of eels".
deal-with?
they allow it every day!
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if that's so,.. then AT LEAST whoever's been screwing with the Amazon AWS servers, so as to cheat FOR THE FEDERATION ... should be being kicked as well - the worst of the worst, i ever experienced?
having a refugees-from-a-thargoid-attack mission for a neutral independent faction, after i arrived at the destination, and was about to drop them off, handing it in... finding,.. that it had changed INTO a mission for one of the federation factions in the system i took it FROM!
i double checked the target and origin factions... there was no mistake - made a complaint to frontier,.. etc quoting both names,.. both were from 32 C PISCIUM ... the destination faction was not a 32 C piscium faction,.. so there was no way for me or anyone else to've confused whether or not it was to-rather-than-from, or from-rather-than-to - no mistake.
I'd arrived, was about to hand it in... but some CHEAT, no less than any Groms cheats,.. ( not that i'm defending them if they have been )... FEDERATION cheats, this is... no LESS,.. no less-a-cheat , than anyone else,..
so sorry, but federation players cheat TOO...
had edited my active-mission files somehow ... and what,.. thought somehow thought i wouldn't notice?, or what... wouldn't MIND? didn't care, who i'd chosen?
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i'd deliberately chosen all right, and there was no mistaking it ... i will never forget that, and NEVER pretend, that federation players do not cheat.
Who knows, how much cheating is done by different powers tho. I'm staying out of that assessment. Wouldn't know.
But i sure as hell know that cheating FOR the federation happens at least on Amazon AWS - friends/squadron mates at the time,.. mostly in the UK,.. did not experience what i was... so it was reasonable to assume that something was wrong at the Amazon hosting space / servers.
This isn't a anti-Amazon rant... it's just to say...
when FEDERATION players get a chance , SOME do.
sorry, it's not just Groms, if they do.
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i've gone through far too many coincidences, with federation players, called nothing but "bugs" ... by Frontier.
getting crashes and interruptions, while fighting federation factions,.. but then in the same day,.. moments later, TESTING CZs of factions where NEITHER is a federation one... to see if i get interruptions ... and nothing. no EXTRA ... something... somewhere, in some hidden code somewhere... interrupting the battle,.. so i have to start again, wasting my time.
dirty trick after dirty trick over the years,
because half of them are spoilt brats,
who don't see the value in being wrong in science... love to be wrong sometimes! value BOTH!
pretend there's no value, salvage-value, if you have to call it that ... maturity-to-gain ... in defeat.
let alone the value of fair-play in games.
MAL-adjusted, we call that,
in social-psych.
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Or what will or won't cause a game to die, if everyone couldn't maintain self-control, to not cheat, when opportunities arise.
and yet those AMONGST other legitimate federation players,..
also probably also one of the worst types of hypocrites,
to talk up indiscriminations of neo-american ambiguities of DISCIPLINE,
while not themselves being so enough, to resist the urge to cheat.
pffffffffht. spoilt brat americans, are spoilt brat americans, in anyone's language.
talking up one Galatic Power, over another, does not demonstrate, CONDUCT,
nor does a would-be, of commitment, to winning.
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if you lose the diplomatic war, for the cost of winning one mere battle... then you're more of a fool, than you realise.
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You would say this. Because if they removed Grom, then we know exactly who would go next right? Yeah oof..
first place ... all sorts of competitions, all sorts of places ... You did not understand that this is not an indicator in the game!? Mahon in the first place all year! So what? They are not runs with flags and win-banners, they sometimes loss, but they come back ... and with this they game! Let's count how many victories they have in cycles? other rivals? everything is a complete slag, senseless and merciless .... according to this FD in silents. Strategically goes only to the Global Social Experiment. The whole game is tracing paper from the real world.
They introduced the Force only so that it drags everyone and everyone will be united. But Humanity and the players do not understand it, they just play the toy
The fact of RTP itself is an attempt to identify the strongest who can consolidate Humanity in the game. But Grom force could only win ONE time in the Cycle at the so many years (well, maybe 2-3, I definitely did not count) ... that's all.
the game will continue to live in PP - as the highest manifestation of uselessness, until everyone understands this and goes into one of 11 powers completely, which will create an obvious winner and the others will just die
But the duvet is not glued, but only cracks at the seams due to ambition, pride and disagreement.
And if they drop the Game, those who remain will win. This is a win-win option
The unity of the idea wins! All these PMF, all Powers, all these so-called free pilots - 5 years ... push the water in a mortar!
nothing terrible happened. The game continues.
the horse is dead, but she cannot die. Someone else will ride a horse again.
You know Mahon and the Emperor regularly trade spots right? Nobody knows the formula, the formula is likely bugged, buy I'm guessing that it probably has to do with the fact that ALD actually fights people. (The fact that they do so and nearly all in open gets them a lot more respect from me.)
The Alliance likely needed a second faction, and the Empire IMO needed at least one fewer. The devs know that they stacked the game board, but it's probably too late to fix at this point.
The only factors we know of are that size (number of systems) matters a lot, which is why Mahon is so consistently in the top 3. However, successful prep/ expansions (regardless of 5C or not) also push you up temporarily too (more so these days and why Mahon slips so regularly), and that large numerical defeats in expansions seem to drag more. But on the whole its a massive mystery- consolidation should drag you back for example, but does not.
The Galactic standings are a bit silly anyway since 5 (ZYADA / ADA(Z) ) work as one (FUC as well, but only 2) and that some powers are sacrificed 'for the greater good' to hurt others, and that 3 (Alliance, Antal, LYR) stay out of conflict. The whole system is dysfunctional and needs a good looking at, but its anyones guess if FD will do it- I increasingly suspect no-one at FD now understands how the code works since so much time has passed since its introduction.
Before anything else, with a single forum post is that known that this announcement is fully authentic?
I said it because it is the reality. Even if you removed all the Powers in the game and just had Empire, Federation & Alliance it still wouldn't work because the mechanics are broken. Torval also wouldn't be removed as it is part of the IHC, just as Hudson wouldn't be removed as it is part of FUC as resources are shared & coordinated.
CMDR Justinian Octavius
I have to agree with Justinian, whole system is broken, without 5c activities PP would be eternal stalemate, completely new system that facilitate expansions but lowers cost and decrease exploitation zones is needed, it could benefit from things similar to galactic initiatives in some way...
It's one of the problems, another is lazy decision of FD to make prismatic shields in all sizes, just because they didn't have to manually design every module like weapons, i don't think anybody was thinking how unbalancing this decision will be, but why we have 2/1/4 superpowers representations in the first place is beyond me. But it can be saved, i think it's possible in future rework of PP to merge existing powers into superpowers, perhaps add 1 or 2 more, but gameplay and UI improvements are equally important.