It's not really been possible since Odyssey to tell what states missions affect without a lot of experimentation, but my pre-Odyssey notes suggest that donations of things other than medicines and weapons should be +Econ and get a Boom going.
Elite Dangerous | Ascendancy Update 1 - Thursday 21st November
- Thread starter Paul_Crowther
- Start date
I think it’ll feel better if you regard this as a supplemental source of merits, and diversify your cargo, rather than as a primary source. Especially if you intend to work strategically, rather than simply grind merits for modules or rewards. During my experiment last night, in a 240 ton Python, I doubled my bulk sale earnings via diversification, and it was competitive with one-ton trading in the long term.
Not to mention, it’s a lot more fun, and there’s other opportunities while flying in Supercruise you can take advantage of to fill in the gap.
Going forward, I’ll probably use this method to fill empty cargo space not occupied by Power Commodities or mission cargo.
Unfortunately, in many cases there IS no way to diversify. In the system I'm pushing for example, only Power Generators have the necessary price and profitability to generate merits via trading.
Is it just me, or are boom states way rarer nowadays? Maybe I've just never been paying close enough attention, but it seems to me there didn't used to be so many systems with no states at all.
AFAIK you need to take them to a Fortified or Stronghold system controlled by your Power, and the system you deliver them to needs to be in control range of the system where you got the data from.
For Acquisition, yes. Undermining is less picky - any friendly system will take those.
That I don't know - I certainly have seen a lot of "everyone in State:None" systems as I go around the bubble, but then a lot of those are systems which even with Powerplay aren't necessarily getting a lot of traffic, and I've been away too long to have a good instinct for what it "should" look like.
Doing a quick check of the system owners out at Colonia where I'm more familiar with what it "should" look like, certainly a good bunch of those are in Boom and a lot of the ones which aren't at least have something else going on instead, so that all looks normal ... but those are, of course, all low-population systems which might be easier to get states to stick to.
Oh, wait... so there's different conditions for delivery locations of "power reserach data" depending on if the data was acquired in acquisition or undermining system?
Well isn't that wizzard.
Yes - though they are at least, in this case, consistent with the general rules for each state for anything involving transportation of something from A to BOh, wait... so there's different conditions for delivery locations of "power reserach data" depending on if the data was acquired in acquisition or undermining system?
Acquisition: between the target system and its supporting Fortified/Stronghold system
Reinforcement: hand in locally
Undermining: for things collected in the target system, return them to any friendly system
there's different conditions for delivery locations of "power reserach data" depending on if the data was acquired in acquisition or undermining system?
Specifically for "research" data from reinforcement systems, there's no valid hand-in option though you can still collect it. The other two data types are collect and hand in in the same system. At least according to the codex, where it's conspicuous by it's absence:
Thanks
Salvage/S&R has the same sort of weirdness to it - Acquisition systems have S&R as an activity, but not Salvage, so the Black Box/Wreckage Components don't do anything there, and it's really unclear why even though it's documented correctly.
I need to go over those data sections more closely again...
Right, okay, I can't verify one way or another since I don't have Odyssey; I'd like to take the Codex as gospel, buuut...
This is what I've found though:
Acquisition:
| Transfer Power Research and Industrial Data | Download data from data ports at settlements and return them to a Fortified or Stronghold system controlled by your Power that is in control range of the system. | 5 merits per data |
And now that I knew to look for it...
Undermining:
| Transfer Power Research and Industrial Data | Download data from data ports at settlements in systems controlled by Powers that you are not pledged to and return them to a Power contact in a system your Power controls. | 78 merits per data |
Again, I can't personally verify these are accurate or if someone pulled them out of their behind and added them to the table. /shrug
Yeah, there's a bunch of inaccuracies in the "Activities" section there. Escape pods will be awarded merits for scooping in Undermining systems? Nope - not even before they suspended escape pods merits.. Hand in your exobiology data to your Power Contact?! Nope! ...
I recommend @Ian Doncaster 's reference spreadsheet, and I have collected some information, based on the Codex and in-game sources, in the Powerplay section of the forum, that I try and keep updated with what players have worked out.
Been playing for a few hours today and agree progression is better now.
But I'm still in two minds whether to stick with it or not. I previously tried all PP modules so know what I'm missing out on (or not). So the modules are not a huge draw anymore. Looking at the rest of PP then, I'm starting to think I'm just not the target audience here.
PP limits you to specific gameplay in a very small sub-bubble of the bubble (funnily enough, same could be said about the Thargoid war), with various activities still not earning sufficient or any merits at all.
2 out of my 5 weeklies can't be completed, similar to last week. It all still feels pretty sloppy, buggy and unfinished, and on top of that the biggest issue for me as a non group player is lack of purpose beyond going through the motions of progressing through an arbitrary and meta-gamey rank grind. My playstyle is more like the lone vagabond mercenary type, and PP requires the kind of focus and dedication (at least if you want to make any sort of difference) I'm simply not prepared to invest.
PP ultimately still feels like endless hamster wheel busywork; the associated lore and visual flavour is so paper thin that that's not motivating me to stick with it for RP purposes even. It's better than PP1, but it's still PP I guess.
So it might just be a mix of "it's not you it's me", and vice versa in the end. Might even just install 3.8 again for some occasional flying around until colonisation arrives, as the general jankiness that only seems to be getting worse is really off-putting now.
Last edited:
I kinda like the idea of PP but I would have to agree with you that - as a mostly solo player - it's difficult to be engaged when meaningful rewards beyond "one number bigger" on a rank list are so very slow to aquire even if you dedicate your entire Elite gaming to PP ...
There's a specific module I'm after. And a couple of others that would be nice but I'm not sure I have the stomach for the grind so I can probably live without 'em. Once I have the one I definitely want - and in all liklihood that will probably be (1) in 2025 and (2) a huge disappointment! - I may well end up bailing on PP entirely unless I can make peace with pledging to either Archer (wants to spy on his own citizens) or Grom (questionable inclusion in PP) to get the Bounty payout perks.
I thought it was pretty good. I core mined 37M worth of minerals like Musgravite and Alexandrite in the course of a little more than an hour and got I think 29k merits out of that.
Someone more experienced could do a lot better, I prospected pretty much every glowing asteroid because for the life of me I can't consistently figure out what a core rock looks like in a rocky ring.
Also if someone has a carrier and is lucky enough to spot a power salvage or power weapons fire or any other kind of power signal while doing their mining, it's probably a good idea just to check it out. It probably has a high number of escape pods and other valuable salvage which you can collect and dump to your carrier. I have a bunch waiting on fdev to reactivate pod turnins
@Paul_Crowther Frontier
Elections in exploited systems update Thursdays. Daily in non Exploited systems. Please make all Elections update daily.
Elections in exploited systems update Thursdays. Daily in non Exploited systems. Please make all Elections update daily.
Last edited: