Elite Dangerous - Community Goal FSD Reward and Modification/Application of Experimentals
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The error occurs in both Odyssey and Horizons.
I've only played Odyssey since release (apart from moving FC from bubble / Colonia - I use horizons as that I do on my laptop) and bought the G5 FSD & Seeker racks and added experimentals to all. So it certainly did work.
The precedent allowing experimental effects on double-engineered modules has already been set, so why disturb the status quo, alienate your customers and have to spend valuable development time adding in additional UI code when it's not necessary.
I'm sure common sense will prevail, eventually.
I'm sure common sense will prevail, eventually.
I added an experimental to a double engineered 5A FSD in Odyssey during the CG. It is an "available feature" .
Literally would not have bothered to do the CG if there wasn't a chance of an Uber-module at the end of it.
I have as well, but not recently and it may only be available to the C5 FSD ... as trying to add an effect to the C6 FSD from the last CG fails regardless of being in Horizons or Odyssey.
I still have several thousand tons of Thermal Cooling Units on my FC, that I wasn't quick enough to hand in before it finished. My Type 9 Nellie D'Elephant was loaded and ready with its first load. Still if anyone's interested Pre-loved TCU's going cheap
My Epic alt did the bubble CG and on that Saturday rushed to Colonia to do their CG too...
Feels a bit silly right now, but only a tiny tiny bit
Sorry but this is incorrect information based on the class 5 double-engineered.
I will add my thoughts. I would be very displeased to say the least if experimental effects can no longer be applied to these double engineered modules. It had just worked previously and I added experimental to numerous modules. At least a dozen, maybe 20 I didn’t count, C5 FSD’s bought at the tech broker. To suddenly change this would be another slap to the players who continue to stick around as you guys work on fixing the buggy mess that is odyssey.
Now I definitely will go from displeased to angry if my past experimentals are retroactively removed.
I have spoken.
Now I definitely will go from displeased to angry if my past experimentals are retroactively removed.
I have spoken.
I felt this server error was telling us it will not be possible to add experimentals, so I wasn't waiting.
Anyway, if that's how it's going to be, I think there needs to be some kind of new icon made for those double engineered modules to differentiate them from regular ones. I need to know before going to an engineer that certain module without experimental I have is not modifiable further.
I have quite a few engineered modules and it's getting hard to remember which one is which.
Anyway, if that's how it's going to be, I think there needs to be some kind of new icon made for those double engineered modules to differentiate them from regular ones. I need to know before going to an engineer that certain module without experimental I have is not modifiable further.
I have quite a few engineered modules and it's getting hard to remember which one is which.
The ability to add experimental effects to double-engineered modules is well established at this point, is completely common knowledge (so how could you possibly have missed it?), and makes perfect sense for gameplay too (if you can just buy fully engineered FSDs what's the point of the FSD engineers? to add experimental effects of course!)
Changing this now after the fact is not only confusing but is also going to make a lot of people upset who are right now just waiting for this bug to be fixed so that they can go back to playing the game. This could very well be the final straw for a lot of people who already feel let down by the decisions made about this game recently.
Change these modules and the seeker missile racks so that they accept experimental effects and plan for any future double engineered modules to have them available too, it's too late to change your minds about this now.
As for people talking about powercreep: it's been 7 years it's okay technology just advanced a bit. As long as double engineered modules get put on tech brokers for everyone sooner rather than later there is no problem with giving them out as CG prizes a little early first.
Changing this now after the fact is not only confusing but is also going to make a lot of people upset who are right now just waiting for this bug to be fixed so that they can go back to playing the game. This could very well be the final straw for a lot of people who already feel let down by the decisions made about this game recently.
Change these modules and the seeker missile racks so that they accept experimental effects and plan for any future double engineered modules to have them available too, it's too late to change your minds about this now.
As for people talking about powercreep: it's been 7 years it's okay technology just advanced a bit. As long as double engineered modules get put on tech brokers for everyone sooner rather than later there is no problem with giving them out as CG prizes a little early first.
I always got the feeling that the double engineered modules were essentially a quick hack to get some cool rewards out of the old engineering system without having to code anything new.
The simpler solution to avoid power creep would be to nerf the grade of engineering and allow modifications (while also being gracious and pre-engineering them with mass manager or deep charge depending on the size) instead of making them work differently from other modules and explaining all that complexity to players.
I imagine there must be some kind of horrible behind the scenes technical reasons that require the solution to be "just gray it out in the UI" instead,,,
The simpler solution to avoid power creep would be to nerf the grade of engineering and allow modifications (while also being gracious and pre-engineering them with mass manager or deep charge depending on the size) instead of making them work differently from other modules and explaining all that complexity to players.
I imagine there must be some kind of horrible behind the scenes technical reasons that require the solution to be "just gray it out in the UI" instead,,,
Every single double-modded CG reward has been able to have secondary effects added or modified (assuming the base module has secondaries available to it), without exception up until this point. You can see why under such circumstances people might be confused by the sudden change of implementation.
(edit: this sounds like the devs leaving you in the lurch again like when they insisted notoriety had always been active for feet content (it hadn't), lol. Unenviable position to be put in! Good luck.)
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Adding my 2c here.... the thought of removing experimental effects from the d/e modules is already pushing all the wrong buttons with most of ED's player base. being able to add them adds to game play, as you can customize for different use cases (as stated before) instead of just the usual grind of farming mats for the module that's better than all the rest.. it's definitely about to off people exploring in the black, not to mention the other modules that are available...
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