Elite Dangerous no longer an MMO?

[Wicz]

http://worldoftanks.com/en/content/guide/general/

World of Tanks is the greatest team-based massively multiplayer online action game dedicated to armored warfare

15 vs 15 Battles is all you get in that MMO.


I think people need to drop the pedantry, or at least realise it simply doesn't make any difference what you call it.

It is what it is.

 

[Cmdr. Alhazred]

Oh lord, here we go again! Another non-issue being blown out of proportion so people can vent their anger, and their inflated sense of entitlement.

So the game didn't own up to your standards on launch? What have you not learned from the launch of any game that saw release in 2013 and 2014? No? What's that sound? It's BF4, Assassin's Creed, GTA Online, and just about every other AAA release from the past 2 years laughing at you.

We knew already that "expectations would not be met" well ahead of release. Now you're whining because some people use MMO to describe this game, and others don't? It's still a ' MMO, just a very poorly implemented one. Stop trying to get your money back already, and suck it up. You'd think gamers would learn not to pre-order something if they can't accept the risk that what they're buying might not meet their standards.

 

[Ghostickles]

No, any game that calls itself an MMO should realise what expectations (justified or not) come with that term. If I make a self-propelled vehicle with a lawn mower engine and sold it as an automobile (literally a thing that moves (by) itself), I'd be dumb if I didn't foresee angry customers that would be expecting to take it onto the motorway. Even if it is technically correct to call it an automobile.

Exactly, thank you.

 

[CloneWarrior85]

ED was never an MMO, the devs stated that it was NEVER an MMO.

A typo on the store page doesn't make the game an MMO.


A MMO has several requirements to be called an MMO, and ED doesn't have them. ED is an Online game, in other words a Multiplayer game (it also has the "SP" option too).

 

[Wescott]

So essentially the complainers main problems are two fold.
1. The wording which while accurate in its own right as depicted by the technical definitions of the terms, were not understood by some purchasers to be what they personally wanted it to be out of those terms.
So in effect they read into it what they wanted it to be not what it was designed to be, and compounded their error and did not observe or learn from any alpha, beta testing or forums comments or other avenues the direction the
development was taking. Why dose this then suddenly make it FD's fault?

2. That FD developed a game that is different than the standard churned out model from what other games are developed. Erm, isn't that how all new things come into being that's how we moved from wooden sail boats to
coal burning steam powered then oil fired / diesel etc., by doing something different from the other guy. To push the boundaries of what is, "then" to what is "now".
Why should different make it wrong?

 

[TUXER]

Oh lord, here we go again! Another non-issue being blown out of proportion so people can vent their anger, and their inflated sense of entitlement.

So the game didn't own up to your standards on launch? What have you not learned from the launch of any game that saw release in 2013 and 2014? No? What's that sound? It's BF4, Assassin's Creed, GTA Online, and just about every other AAA release from the past 2 years laughing at you.

We knew already that "expectations would not be met" well ahead of release. Now you're whining because some people use MMO to describe this game, and others don't? It's still a ' MMO, just a very poorly implemented one. Stop trying to get your money back already, and suck it up. You'd think gamers would learn not to pre-order something if they can't accept the risk that what they're buying might not meet their standards.

right...at the end of the day regardless of if its is properly called an MMO or not properly called an MMO if one doesnt like the game play then its their responsibility as a gamer to leave and play something they like instead. Not play the victim.

 

[rdizz]

Best part is the video of the creator calling it an "MMO"Followed by people arguing if it is or not an mmo...

 

[TUXER]

Best part is the video of the creator calling it an "MMO"Followed by people arguing if it is or not an mmo...

and speaking as a fanboy myself I have to say he was wrong in doing so.

now...what does all that mean?

 

[knowles2]

It's not an MMO in the sense that any MMO vet would recognize. Thing is, it was never billed as one.

In my opinion though MMO definition have been narrowed down to WOW, when MMOs has the potential be a lot more than just what WOW was. An E and Frontiere have the potential build a MMO that is much more than a simple WOW copycat.

 

[baael]

That means that Frontier need to fix their slogans, because as long as they will be catching people like fishes, so long there will be a huge disappointment and problems.

It will lead to bad reviews, lower scores for game, lowering their company value etc.

 

[IceSerpent]

No, any game that calls itself an MMO should realise what expectations (justified or not) come with that term. If I make a self-propelled vehicle with a lawn mower engine and sold it as an automobile (literally a thing that moves (by) itself), I'd be dumb if I didn't foresee angry customers that would be expecting to take it onto the motorway. Even if it is technically correct to call it an automobile.

I don't know about that - people don't seem to be too angry about Prius after all...

INHO this whole "massively" part of an MMO is not well defined, i.e. would you call FFXIV an MMO or not? At what number of players per instance do we draw the line and say that it's not an MMO any more?

 

[Flyinpiranha]

they absolutely can! I am saying the developers need to consider what people will expect.

Honestly if I was a developer I wouldnt call my MMO and MMO until years down the line but that is just me. Even more so if my MMO is very similar to another one that has been around for 10 years... very risky to make that direct association

No, any game that calls itself an MMO should realise what expectations (justified or not) come with that term. If I make a self-propelled vehicle with a lawn mower engine and sold it as an automobile (literally a thing that moves (by) itself), I'd be dumb if I didn't foresee angry customers that would be expecting to take it onto the motorway. Even if it is technically correct to call it an automobile.

Totally. I absolutely agree. But this game has been so forthcoming and there was no embargo on information. I was watching videos of exactly what this game was months before it launched. Even in the video posted he says to the MMO question "you can play with friends" and doesn't go into detail about a lot of things.

Marketing.

 

[Quineloe]

Persistent world.

Thousands of players sharing that world

You meet people you don't know in the game when in the same area


How is this not an MMO?

 

[Mikey2305]

Topic of the day ... Sweet

 

[Flyinpiranha]

Persistent world.

Thousands of players sharing that world

You meet people you don't know in the game when in the same area


How is this not an MMO?

It's not WoW or EVE.

 

[Quineloe]

It's not WoW or EVE.

MMO doesn't stand for Massive Multiplayer Online game called World of Warcraft or EVE

 

[TUXER]

MMO doesn't stand for Massive Multiplayer Online game called World of Warcraft or EVE

The problem is marketing.

Instead of focusing on how this the first single player game ever that allows you to affect a persitent world that also has multiplayer aspects to it people are loggin in expecting (incorrectly but doing it all the same) Eve online in first person mode.

 

[knowles2]

"Activision and Bungie haven’t referred to Destiny as an MMO despite its online characteristics, which heavily resemble games in the MMO genre."

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/technol...-arent-calling-destiny-an-mmo.html/?a=viewall




Yesterday massively was 100+ ppl, I remember events with 1200+ ppl, 15 years later 32 is "massively".

15 years ago people didn't expect 4k graphics and 60 frames per second with zero lag.

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MMO doesn't stand for Massive Multiplayer Online game called World of Warcraft or EVE

But that what many commentators here are basing their arguments on.

 

[TUXER]

15 years ago people didn't expect 4k graphics and 60 frames per second with zero lag.

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But that what many commentators here are basing their arguments on.

I think they should have called it something like
'the first single player game with a persistent world everyone can interact with together'

 

[Drathmar]

I know I saw it in black and white, rhetorical question. Right now - I'm severely disappointed. I understand how people felt having offline pulled.
MMO/Multiplayer, as I have stated before, is my reason for purchase. Now its like a sudden validation that this game is going to be what it is, not what we were promised, not anytime soon and I personally will have a hard time believing any information FD puts out now. Too much back and forth, flip flopping. This is complete and utter .

By definition it is a MMO, just not a MMORPG which is what you are trying to compare it to. Ultima Online was an MMO as well but I bet many so called "mmo vets" who started in WoW or after would not consider it one because it is much more open and doesn't hand hold them.