ANNOUNCEMENT Elite Dangerous: Odyssey Announcement

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Ford have removed cassettes from their cars, full stop. FD are removing VR from ED full stop, exactly the same analogy, perfectly correct, don't give me the legacy version nonsense. As I said previously, when someone start playing semantics like "ED:O never had it" they lost the argument a long time ago, as have you.

You are comfortable not having VR in ED:O, then you've said your bit, no one agrees but you've said. No need for you to comment further. I and many others are not getting VR in the next version of the game, and we will continue to ask for it or clarification. You don't need to comment, that makes you a troll that one may have said but others are thinking.

Perhaps the problem is a lack of definition over what "IT" is.

If you say "VR support" - what does that mean exactly? To one person it might be VR "vision", where you can experience the view in VR, but not interact in a VR-way. To another it might be the full gamut ala Half-Life: Alyx and other VR-specialised games.

The former may well be comparatively easy to implement, the latter is by all accounts much much more difficult. I would suspect that it's the latter that is the problem.

The current game can call itself a "VR game" by virtue of the player being stuck in a seat. As soon as FPS elements are in it can't do that without implementing proper VR interaction mechanisms.

I don't know how it looks to FD but my initial instinct seeing the "We want VR ED:O!" posts was for full VR support. This might not be the case of course but perhaps that distinction isn't sufficiently obvious? Perhaps I haven't read enough posts.

I think FD would be alot more likely to confirm VR support if they were confident that "VR vision" as it were was acceptable.
 
Neither are you entirely excluded from them by not having an engineered ship. The things you have to have an engineered ship for is quite narrow in comparison to the things it is nice to have an engineered ship for.

I never implied that one was excluded from anything by not having an Engineered ship. However, essentially everything that can be done can be done faster, easier, or better with Engineering.

You can reach destinations faster, move cargo faster, scan planets faster, destroy NPCs faster (or ignore them more easily), even mine faster.
 
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It's time to disembark, Commander.

We are delighted to share with you a glimpse of the Next Era - Elite Dangerous: Odyssey.



Explore distant worlds on foot, expand the frontier of known space and leave your mark on the galaxy as you become the first person in history to explore lands untouched since time began.

So you've disembarked, you're standing for the first time on an unexplored planet. What can you do next? Here's an overview of what you can look forward to in Elite Dangerous: Odyssey.


One Giant Leap

See the galaxy like never before. Touch down on breathtaking planets powered by stunning new tech, soak in suns rising over unforgettable vistas, discover outposts and settlements, and explore with unrestricted freedom.


Forge Your Own Path

Take on a wide variety of contracts and play your way, from diplomacy and commerce to lethal stealth and all-out combat. Diverse settings, objectives, and NPCs offer endless mission variety and a near infinite amount of content to enjoy.


Assemble Your Crew

Social hubs spread throughout the galaxy give Commanders the ideal place to plan their next move. Form alliances, procure services, and even find expert support in highly coveted Engineers. These public outposts also help you acquire and upgrade weapons and gear to perfect your playing style.


The Sphere of Combat

Experience intense first-person combat, kit out your character with an array of weapons and gear, and coordinate with teammates to master a multi-layered, deep, tactical environment where Commanders, SRVs and Starships converge.

From now until launch, we'll be sharing more information, developer diaries and trailers as we get ready to embark on this exciting new adventure!

You can wishlist RIGHT NOW over on Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1336350/Elite_Dangerous_Odyssey/

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What is the point of any of this? Buy the game it never connects... UNINSTALL... WOW fun!!!
 
Ford have removed cassettes from their cars, full stop.
So you're saying that Ford installed cassete players and then removed them at a later date?

FD are removing VR from ED full stop, exactly the same analogy, perfectly correct, don't give me the legacy version nonsense.
This is factually incorrect as VR will remain available in the base game and horizons. So VR is not being removed from ED. Please can you stop with this nonesense.

As I said previously, when someone start playing semantics like "ED:O never had it" they lost the argument a long time ago, as have you.
Its got nothing to do with semantics. You are portraying it as something its not, its dishonest. You are saying that FDev has taken something from you, which they have not.

You are comfortable not having VR in ED:O
I have never said I was comfortable. I said I can live with it if the expansion is any good, which I don't know yet.

then you've said your bit, no one agrees but you've said.
That's funny as I seem to be getting plenty of likes from both VR supporters and people that don't play in VR. Seems like you are wrong again. Seems to be a recurring issue for you.

No need for you to comment further. I and many others are not getting VR in the next version of the game, and we will continue to ask for it or clarification. You don't need to comment, that makes you a troll that one may have said but others are thinking.
I too will continue to ask for it, but not in a dishonest way. That may be fine for you, but it isn't for me.
 
Perhaps the problem is a lack of definition over what "IT" is.

If you say "VR support" - what does that mean exactly? To one person it might be VR "vision", where you can experience the view in VR, but not interact in a VR-way. To another it might be the full gamut ala Half-Life: Alyx and other VR-specialised games.

The former may well be comparatively easy to implement, the latter is by all accounts much much more difficult. I would suspect that it's the latter that is the problem.

The current game can call itself a "VR game" by virtue of the player being stuck in a seat. As soon as FPS elements are in it can't do that without implementing proper VR interaction mechanisms.

I don't know how it looks to FD but my initial instinct seeing the "We want VR ED:O!" posts was for full VR support. This might not be the case of course but perhaps that distinction isn't sufficiently obvious? Perhaps I haven't read enough posts.

I think FD would be alot more likely to confirm VR support if they were confident that "VR vision" as it were was acceptable.
Speaking for myself VR as it is right now in ED, with or without the addition of FPS but the rest of ED:O
 
LOL Max Factor has a mate, not VR I guess, and you jump in on page 297 and use comments on page 297 to disprove a position on page 296. Awesome.
Get it right, mate...
Go back through the pages... I guess you read them all? I'm there from the beginning... Of course I don't have a Rift S that replaced my original Rift... Nor am I waiting for the opportunity to get an Valve Index...

Laughable, honestly 🤣
(Incidentally - I was on page 296... I like you, you're funny!)

ETA: Hint... first post in this topic: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/elite-dangerous-odyssey-announcement.546389/post-8492485
(But that was before you joined the forum...)
 
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Eagerly awaiting details on the gameplay.

Post #10 says it all .... and the sooner the better of course. What I am hoping for are answers to why getting out of my virtual seat will be compelling. Combat related activities seems already confirmed and of course will be centerstage. Diplomacy and (if I interpret correctly) possible NPC interaction is intriguing stuff from the OP that hopefully will get explained soon in greater detail also. 'Soon' may be a bit of a wait however :(

S!

(Edit - minor typo's and last sentence)
 
Perhaps the problem is a lack of definition over what "IT" is.

If you say "VR support" - what does that mean exactly? To one person it might be VR "vision", where you can experience the view in VR, but not interact in a VR-way. To another it might be the full gamut ala Half-Life: Alyx and other VR-specialised games.

The former may well be comparatively easy to implement, the latter is by all accounts much much more difficult. I would suspect that it's the latter that is the problem.

The current game can call itself a "VR game" by virtue of the player being stuck in a seat. As soon as FPS elements are in it can't do that without implementing proper VR interaction mechanisms.

I don't know how it looks to FD but my initial instinct seeing the "We want VR ED:O!" posts was for full VR support. This might not be the case of course but perhaps that distinction isn't sufficiently obvious? Perhaps I haven't read enough posts.

I think FD would be alot more likely to confirm VR support if they were confident that "VR vision" as it were was acceptable.
I can only speak for myself (however my sig was made by another CMDR so I am defo not alone) but I know I would be happy for VR Vision only.
 
So you're saying that Ford installed cassete players and then removed them at a later date?

*** I'm saying Ford installed cassettes, with two "t"s if you really want to be petty, and them stopped installing them.

*** Semantics, you know exactly what I mean

This is factually incorrect as VR will remain available in the base game and horizons. So VR is not being removed from ED. Please can you stop with this nonesense.

*** I said don't give me that legacy nonsense and ("VR will remain available in the base game and horizons") you do it!

Its got nothing to do with semantics. You are portraying it as something its not, its dishonest. You are saying that FDev has taken something from you, which they have not.

*** Yes they have the ability to play ED in VR, taken away, ED is the entire game not just the legacy bits you keep referring to.

I have never said I was comfortable. I said I can live with it if the expansion is any good, which I don't know yet.

*** Sounds comfy

That's funny as I seem to be getting plenty of likes from both VR supporters and people that don't play in VR. Seems like you are wrong again. Seems to be a recurring issue for you.

*** You stay happy sitting on your fence, just stop talking to me, your semantic tricks don't work with me.

I too will continue to ask for it, but not in a dishonest way. That may be fine for you, but it isn't for me.

I speak the truth, the facts, accurate analogies, you throw around random verbal constructs. At the end of the day more people are unhappy with the decision from FD, more people agree with my position, you are in a minority.
 
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Get it right, mate...
Go back through the pages... I guess you read them all? I'm there from the beginning... Of course I don't have a Rift S that replaced my original Rift... Nor am I waiting for the opportunity to get an Valve Index...

Laughable, honestly 🤣
(Incidentally - I was on page 296... I like you, you're funny!)

ETA: Hint... first post in this topic: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/elite-dangerous-odyssey-announcement.546389/post-8492485
(But that was before you joined the forum...)
You like me, that's good, everyone does. Search for Scholesey and CMDR Scholesey, both the same person, joined a few years ago.

"Of course I don't have a Rift S that replaced my original Rift... Nor am I waiting for the opportunity to get an Valve Index... " So not VR, thanks for confirming.
 
You like me, that's good, everyone does. Search for Scholesey and CMDR Scholesey, both the same person, joined a few years ago.
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Hmmm... OK :)

I joined a few days ago too...

Well, this player account was made in January this year... We won't mention the other 2 ;)
 
Get it right, mate...
Go back through the pages... I guess you read them all? I'm there from the beginning... Of course I don't have a Rift S that replaced my original Rift... Nor am I waiting for the opportunity to get an Valve Index...

Laughable, honestly 🤣
(Incidentally - I was on page 296... I like you, you're funny!)

ETA: Hint... first post in this topic: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/elite-dangerous-odyssey-announcement.546389/post-8492485
(But that was before you joined the forum...)
Hang on, expert, tycoon, elite. So you're a noob lol.
 
So you're saying that Ford installed cassete players and then removed them at a later date?

*** I'm saying Ford installed cassettes, with two "t"s if you really want to be petty.

*** Semantics, you know exactly what I mean

This is factually incorrect as VR will remain available in the base game and horizons. So VR is not being removed from ED. Please can you stop with this nonesense.

*** I said don't give me that legacy nonsense and ("VR will remain available in the base game and horizons") you do it!

Its got nothing to do with semantics. You are portraying it as something its not, its dishonest. You are saying that FDev has taken something from you, which they have not.

*** Yes they have the ability to play ED in VR, taken away, ED is the entire game not just the legacy bits you keep referring to.

I have never said I was comfortable. I said I can live with it if the expansion is any good, which I don't know yet.

*** Sounds comfy

That's funny as I seem to be getting plenty of likes from both VR supporters and people that don't play in VR. Seems like you are wrong again. Seems to be a recurring issue for you.

*** You stay happy sitting on your fence, just stop talking to me, your semantic tricks don't work with me.

I too will continue to ask for it, but not in a dishonest way. That may be fine for you, but it isn't for me.

I speak the truth, the facts, accurate analogies, you throw around random verbal constructs. At the end of the day more people are unhappy with the decision from FD, more people agree with my position, you are in a minority.
Your analogies have been a joke and you have not been facutally correct about everything you have said and you are not being truthful. What do you mean by verbal constructs?

I too am unhappy about VR not being implemented in ED:O, but as I stated, I will not use dishonesty to further my cause. You ridicule my posts and try your hardest to put me down and make stuff up about me. That is all you have done. It does't bother me to be honest, I just pity people who can't accept when they are wrong about something and try to use underhand tactics to win an argument.
 
I can only speak for myself (however my sig was made by another CMDR so I am defo not alone) but I know I would be happy for VR Vision only.

I'm a bit late to the discussion really so I'm probably looking at things from a slightly uninformed perspective. I just can't bring myself to read too many pages of posts :)

I suppose what I'm saying is that I think it's important that a distinction is as obvious as possible so FD can weigh it up. I'm confident that "VR vision" is much easier to implement than "full VR", or whatever you'd prefer to call it, and is much more likely to be considered. At the end of the day FD have to make a business decision.

I think that will be the same for non-VR users that use HOTAS tbh

Hmm, I don't think it's quite the same. Similar yes but not to the same extent. For starters, personally, I like standing up if my character is standing up. Secondly it can be hard to find controllers without taking the headset off, even the motion controllers. There's definitely the potential for an awkward transition. Any awkwardness is going to put off a portion of the potential consumer base. I appreciate that you and many others are sufficiently determined to overcome such problems but the more potential difficulties the less likely it'll make a good business decision to include VR - at least for the FPS side of things.
 
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