Elite Dangerous: Odyssey Hotfix 10.03 | 14/02/2022

[Athan]

This is incorrect. It is by its very nature, a hotfix.

No, the 'hot' in 'hotfix' originally (as used by Blzzard with respect to World of Warcraft back in the mid-00s) referred to a server-side only change that didn't even require players to log out and back into characters, let alone restart their client, or even worse exit, download+apply a patch, and then re-start.

Frontier's abuse/misuse of the term 'hotfix' dilutes any meaning it has beyond "we're changing something". If you used 'patch' for any time there's a client download, and reserved 'hotfix' for (at least, even if requiring player relog/restart at most) changes only on the server side, then both terms would convey extra information.

 

[CMDR Xyhod]

Yep, bizarre isn't it, it must be sending some packets to the client regarding the patch and that causes the black screen, but why it would I don't know, still, it's a patch to fix stuff, and that's always good.....unless it isn't, then it isn't!

I think its a client/server mismatch issue. basically they're sitting there with the new server side update more or less already installed but waiting for the reset. The client side numbers don't match so it has trouble disconnecting when it basically shouldn't be connected in the first place, from the servers perspective.

 

[LeoBartlet]

Games age a lot slower these days, I barely even bother looking at new titles until it's at least a few months old and has plenty of reviews.

I only buy games on sale and play them eventually, No rush.

 

[Northpin]

Download time and server down time are two completely different things We can't predict how long it will take each player to download the patch, what we can say is that the server will be ready when you are.

Sorry Zac, but if i'm telling to one of my customers: i will do some fixes on the servers your application is running, but there will be no downtime.
And then i have to restart the server and my customers will get booted out (hence downtime)... i will have to do a lot of explanations and be very apologetic on why there was a downtime when i said there won't be any

Better say: the downtime will be minimal - since that's hopefully exactly what it is - instead of no expected downtime

Just saying

 

[Zac Cocken]

No, the 'hot' in 'hotfix' originally (as used by Blzzard with respect to World of Warcraft back in the mid-00s) referred to a server-side only change that didn't even require players to log out and back into characters, let alone restart their client, or even worse exit, download+apply a patch, and then re-start.

Frontier's abuse/misuse of the term 'hotfix' dilutes any meaning it has beyond "we're changing something". If you used 'patch' for any time there's a client download, and reserved 'hotfix' for (at least, even if requiring player relog/restart at most) changes only on the server side, then both terms would convey extra information.

Ok, but that's not really what hotfix means in 2022.

 

[LeoBartlet]

No, the 'hot' in 'hotfix' originally (as used by Blzzard with respect to World of Warcraft back in the mid-00s) referred to a server-side only change that didn't even require players to log out and back into characters, let alone restart their client, or even worse exit, download+apply a patch, and then re-start.

Frontier's abuse/misuse of the term 'hotfix' dilutes any meaning it has beyond "we're changing something". If you used 'patch' for any time there's a client download, and reserved 'hotfix' for (at least, even if requiring player relog/restart at most) changes only on the server side, then both terms would convey extra information.

 

[Frop]

I only buy games on sale and play them eventually, No rush.

Especially with Steam, because you know the majority of the titles will be on sale for at least 33% before they pass the half year mark.

 

[Frop]

Ok, but that's not really what hotfix means in 2022.

So what would be FDev's definition?

 

[LeoBartlet]

So what would be FDev's definition?

That's one of the several questions they need to find out

 

[CaptainPugwash]

1,7 Gb ... Hmmm

Rather a lot for a couple of stability fixes eh! What have you smuggled into the code @Zac Cocken ?? We will make you talk!! he he

 

[DrinkyBird]

So what would be FDev's definition?

1.1GB and 2465 changed files apparently.

 

[Zac Cocken]

So what would be FDev's definition?

That would be an originally unplanned fix to address a specific issue(s) deemed more urgent than waiting for the next regular patch - which is industry standard.

 

[CMDR Xyhod]

Ok, but that's not really what hotfix means in 2022.

k so what he's saying and what you are saying is essentially the same thing. I guess you could say he might have elaborated a little more clearly. He means HOTfix SHOULD mean x, but no one (not just frontier, but he uses frontier as an example) really acknowledges the difference anymore and thus the term hotfix has become diluted and lost its original meaning.

 

[Frop]

Rather a lot for a couple of stability fixes eh! What have you smuggled into the code @Zac Cocken ?? We will make you talk!! he he

Somebody's going to datamine the hotfix and figure out they changed nothing, but only removed "leaked" FC interiors and the files for the Panther Clipper.

 

[Oztig]

Rather a lot for a couple of stability fixes eh! What have you smuggled into the code @Zac Cocken ?? We will make you talk!! he he

Perhaps defenitions of 'Hotfix' or Patches, oir Hot Pants - for the pedantic?

 

[zimms]

Sorry Zac, but if i'm telling to one of my customers: i will do some fixes on the servers your application is running, but there will be no downtime.
And then i have to restart the server and my customers will get booted out (hence downtime)... i will have to do a lot of explanations and be very apologetic on why there was a downtime when i said there won't be any

Better say: the downtime will be minimal - since that's hopefully exactly what it is - instead of no expected downtime

Just saying

Which year's definition did you use for 'downtime' there?

 

[Frop]

That would be an originally unplanned fix to address a specific issue(s) deemed more urgent than waiting for the next regular patch - which is industry standard.

Graçias.

 

[amigacooke]

::a wild CM has appeared::
Catch him quick, don't let him escape..!!

You can't do that, endangered species

 

[Flimley]

hot fix. Robots in disguise

Flimley

 

[Skizomeuh]

Some rear ejection system retentives around here. As if when there's nothing to really complain about, let's find any tiny stupid detail to get angry about!