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[CMDR Thon Mystra]

Crowdfunding is where you take money to fund a product which you haven't yet sold or released. i.e. "funding" something which will be available in the future.

We are in full agreement there. Hence my: "... ED development is being financed by crowdfunding. Only 20% of Horizons has been released and sales now are paying for the development of the remaining 80% until the end of this year or further. "

So?

If they use the Horizons money to make the rest of Horizons, that's fine - but it's not "crowdfunding".

A reminder. "Crowdfunding is where you take money to fund a product which you haven't yet sold or released. i.e. "funding" something which will be available in the future." (<<< that's you, above.)

And?

The business model isn't going to change anytime soon since, the way I see it after much thought and deliberation, the only other way to fund a project this big over the particular timeframe planned is to sub it. Is that what you want? £40 base game, £10-£20 expansions and £120 per year to play it? A publisher certainly wouldn't invest that amount of capital into one game over a 10 year dev plan. Hell, EA are infamous for pushing out broken crap just to hit a 12 month deadline.

At least there aren't any scandals about FD staff spending the budget on million dollar mansions.....unlike a certain other game that has barely even been started....

As for update priorities....stuff *is* getting fixed. The issue is that a LOT of the problems require coding solutions so what, in the meantime, are the modelers, riggers, skinners and animators to do? L2code? No. Hence the avatars. A good business constantly keeps its assets and employees productive. A good business will not gain staff loyalty through zero hour contracts and extended time off because there is no work for them.

Devs need to eat too.....

 

[CMDR Thon Mystra]

1. Because it would be an unwise move to backstep into what is considered by the industry to be an out of date pricing model.

2. Should ED ever be in a position to have to force a subscription based model back onto the consumer to keep generating income, it would be pretty much safe to say it was already dead.

3. You'd have to explain this one to me; I don't know what type of company the one in question may be, nor do I understand how the state of a company could possibly justify the use of money given by the public to build a game to instead pay salaries that enable the purchase of luxuries of extreme expense. I understand that devs have to live- I stated so myself- but million dollar paychecks from a game that even now cannot claim to be even close to early access, let alone out of alpha stage just sounded ludicrous to me; and judging by the respective forums, a *lot* of backers were most displeased.

The underlying point there though, is that whatever happens with frontier in the future- even if they choose to walk away- we still have a game to play.....assuming preparations were made to enable offline play should servers be discontinued in any way. And even then, I personally have had over a year's worth of fun in ED for the total £70 I spent on it and Horizons, so even if I end up with nothing I've still had all that fun for my money when compared to, say, Bioshock Infinite; £40 game for a week's play.

I think a key issue here is that you and I have different ideals about what is value for money, and that's ok, we're different people. However after observing your postings, I come to the conclusion that you are simply here spoiling for a rumble. You say you would be happy to pay well over £100 a year to keep the game you love alive, yet come onto the boards to post aggressively about negative aspects of the game (you love) for potential new players (and income) to see and get turned off by.

FDev aren't going to kill this game, posts like yours will.

People are strange......

 

[Javert]

All,

Please stick to the subject at hand - comments about the poster or FD staff, or commenting on moderation, are frowned upon by the forum rules.

 

[Shar]

Is there a thread that doesn't devolve into feces flinging and name calling? Between Shar and forumuser8767 I don't know where the facts end and the chest pounding begins. Seriously this is stupid. Everyone in these forums devolves into a bunch of roid raging chimps. I've never seen a forum so childlike and impudent. Literally. I've browsed planetside 2 forums for a while, warframe, tf2 when I was younger but you guys take the cake seriously. I feel like I'm back in high school. This is getting ridiculous. And I don't care if a mod smites me for insulting other users you BOTH are silly children. Grow up.

Be happy nobody will smite you but yes ease up on the insults. hmm all this talk of cake has made me hungry. Now i can,t speak for the other guy but I,m long past insulting him i,ll leave that to some of the other commentators.

Some of the things being said about the game need to be challenged, and some of us are willing to do that, so sorry if that bothers you. however no one is forcing you to read it.

Don,t be salty dude i still have some of that Aloe-Vera left if you would like some. +1 Rep for the cake.


Edit: Your post intrigues me as it seems to complain about it,s own substance, it,s almost paradoxical very clever. i would give you more rep if i could.

 

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