I didn’t know there was a cap on systems. Is that factual?
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Elite Dangerous | System Colonisation Beta Details & Feedback
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Yup, its kind of like when they first added the FC, they hoped that middling game design and worse implementation would be made up with player emergent gameplay, completly forgetting that this ain't EVE online and we dont even have a send player money system.
really ought to have baked colonisation for a quarter more, maybe even see if they can find those pp2 designers again after they fired them or whatever they must have done for caring about gameplay a slight bit.
really ought to have baked colonisation for a quarter more, maybe even see if they can find those pp2 designers again after they fired them or whatever they must have done for caring about gameplay a slight bit.
Best of my knowledge it was speculated as a possible constraint by one individual on the forums, then erroneously adopted as fact by others
I have been building orbital facilities using a shieldless cutter without any significant issues. I learned very quickly not to engage autodock from a big distance: bad. And very slow. I simply manually fly the ship close to the pad without concern of ship orientation, then set thrust to zero and let autodock take over. Its great. Np.
When I built a surface outpost port a week or two ago I did have to use shields. The autodock would slam my ship down on the pad, regularly losing +10% of my 6A engineered prismatic shields. Frontier might have fixed that by now. I have been noticing big improvements with autodock over the weeks.
1 - The current design already slows dedicated players. Seems a bit unfair to handicap people who actually want to DO something, so it should apply across the board. Systems must be fully built before expanding? Cool, affects everyone.
2 - Incentive? Massively increased colonization range! I know 500 Ly would certainly make me fill out my systems.
3 - They already are. Seems like it's a disagreement in what needs protecting. No one will be built to any nebula in the northeast corner any time soon, fly out to those, I guess.
Okay there's a problem with the claiming process, while it's all fun and all to have this Gold rush situation, it generates a lot of zombie systems like others said. Even worse is that some people are just waiting for people to complete their system to snipe and claim the next one.
Guys, if you want the system, at least help with the resources instead of just waiting for the others to make the efforts. This does not promote collaborative work and just make people more selfish than before.
The penalty construction points is useless, I'm fine with the idea of having to build T1 for T2 and T2 for T3 but don't start to ask for 18 T2 points because the big systems are not that common near the bubble. The time limit is a bad idea, and forcing players to join groups will just share the same burn out experience.
Right now the beta feels like a massive grind fest with lots of days of work and hauling to have such a small reward. If I wanted to be rich I would do exobiology, right now the colonization system does not feel rewarding and does not seem appealing with the Wild West situation.
Guys, if you want the system, at least help with the resources instead of just waiting for the others to make the efforts. This does not promote collaborative work and just make people more selfish than before.
The penalty construction points is useless, I'm fine with the idea of having to build T1 for T2 and T2 for T3 but don't start to ask for 18 T2 points because the big systems are not that common near the bubble. The time limit is a bad idea, and forcing players to join groups will just share the same burn out experience.
Right now the beta feels like a massive grind fest with lots of days of work and hauling to have such a small reward. If I wanted to be rich I would do exobiology, right now the colonization system does not feel rewarding and does not seem appealing with the Wild West situation.
English version here (I actually live 20 minutes from FDev HQ
). It is a Tier 1 Commercial Outpost that I was trying to build, so no points needed. I have just logged into game, and none of the three slots have anything in, so it's not like it took a few hours to appear.I'll try again later, and see if it works tonight.
We have been playing in this mode since the very first day of this patch. Therefore, I assumed such a probabilityEnglish version here (I actually live 20 minutes from FDev HQ
I'll try again later, and see if it works tonight.
Perhaps this is another bug, which has already accumulated so much during this time in all areas of the game that it is impossible to count.
This is exactly how I run my Cutter too!
No enforced rule for improving "zombie" systems can be considered unless the distance requirement for colonization is removed, or at least significantly upgraded to something like 500 LY. The primary reason so many systems away from the bubble are not developed is that going through those systems is the only way CMDRs can reach the systems they want. If FDev doesn't want thousands of systems with only outposts, the solution is to drastically increase the colonization range. However, even on the Unlocked where they described colonization, FDev explained how players would make multiple chained systems to reach those places they wanted to reach out in the black. To me, that means FDev actually wants the colonization to work this way, and they don't have an issue with undeveloped systems.
The other primary reason many systems are underdeveloped is that many players are waiting for bugs to be fixed or for the beta to end, so that the systems for colonization are known. Some players are fine spending hundreds of hours building while using trial and error to discover the best combinations. Many more players, myself included, won't build anything beyond the initial starport until we understand the consequences of what each build means. I've claimed 8 systems so far. I plan to build them all up eventually. But I'm not going to add even a satellite to any of them until either FDev publishes a guide or the player community reverse engineers all the rules.
Hi 
...I've done a similar sort of thing once or twice ferrying commodity build stuff from my player carrier to the colonisation carrier, getting bored with the repetitive trucking and forgetting momentarily where I am in the loop.
As soon as this started to happen I mentally stood back, realised what was causing this and exited the game...Edit...or did something completely different in the game.
"All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy"
Jack
...I've done a similar sort of thing once or twice ferrying commodity build stuff from my player carrier to the colonisation carrier, getting bored with the repetitive trucking and forgetting momentarily where I am in the loop.As soon as this started to happen I mentally stood back, realised what was causing this and exited the game...Edit...or did something completely different in the game.
"All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy"
Jack
Why? Why does it matter? Before they were "zombie" systems they were uninhabited systems with no station at all. What's wrong with a system with a single outpost in it?
With current jump ranges its not like your jumping 15LY from one of these systems to the next when travelling anywhere.
Increasing the range just means people will reach further away and still have zombie systems just more spread out.
We may have a job for you. Do you take PayPal or Venmo?English version here (I actually live 20 minutes from FDev HQ
Betting on the latter...
Yup, and is why I never leave the docking computer unattended. Some course corrections may be necessary around said orbital construction facilities, but I have never lost a ship to that so far.
I found that removing the ship kit helped. Less to get stuck on.
I don't like the current look of tendrils either, my only hope is that other commanders will come along and "fill in the blanks" along the way by populating systems just off the tendrils (surely some plum systems have opened up). Hopefully then the initial ugly tendrils wont be as obvious and fade over time
This is absolutely outrageous!
My squadron and I spent days coordinating, planning, and building stations to expand into a specific systems as part of our long-term colonization effort. We strategized, worked hard and followed your new Trailblazer colonization mechanics as intended.
Then what happens?
Some rat in Solo Mode was lurking and waiting for the moment to snipe the system from us at the last second.
No PvP. No diplomacy. No challenge. Just an invisible exploit that allows a single player to invalidate the work of dozens of others—all while being 100% unaccountable and untouchable.
This is not "shared gameplay." This is an illusion.
You're trying to sell us the idea of a living, breathing galaxy while simultaneously allowing this kind of solo-mode abuse to ruin everything meaningful in player-driven efforts.
If I wanted to play a colony builder by myself, I’d launch a different game.
Instead, we're stuck in a “multiplayer” game where our biggest threat isn't pirates or enemy factions—it’s ghost players hiding in solo mode, waiting to steal the results of our real work.
This system is broken.
It’s demoralizing.
And unless you fix it or introduce real limits to solo mode in shared BGS and colonization mechanics, this will continue to drive away dedicated players who are trying to actually play the damn game as a community.
Fix your game. Or stop pretending it’s a multiplayer galaxy!!!
– A very ed-off commander on behalf of an entire betrayed squadron.
My squadron and I spent days coordinating, planning, and building stations to expand into a specific systems as part of our long-term colonization effort. We strategized, worked hard and followed your new Trailblazer colonization mechanics as intended.
Then what happens?
Some rat in Solo Mode was lurking and waiting for the moment to snipe the system from us at the last second.
No PvP. No diplomacy. No challenge. Just an invisible exploit that allows a single player to invalidate the work of dozens of others—all while being 100% unaccountable and untouchable.
This is not "shared gameplay." This is an illusion.
You're trying to sell us the idea of a living, breathing galaxy while simultaneously allowing this kind of solo-mode abuse to ruin everything meaningful in player-driven efforts.
If I wanted to play a colony builder by myself, I’d launch a different game.
Instead, we're stuck in a “multiplayer” game where our biggest threat isn't pirates or enemy factions—it’s ghost players hiding in solo mode, waiting to steal the results of our real work.
This system is broken.
It’s demoralizing.
And unless you fix it or introduce real limits to solo mode in shared BGS and colonization mechanics, this will continue to drive away dedicated players who are trying to actually play the damn game as a community.
Fix your game. Or stop pretending it’s a multiplayer galaxy!!!
– A very ed-off commander on behalf of an entire betrayed squadron.
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