Newcomer / Intro Empty space

Hello folks, I've been out to about 800 LY from the starting position system, at about 200 LY I saw the last space station, and from there space is EMPTY, no living or mechanical soul out there. Is the inner orion spur the only inhabited sector in the whole ED galaxy or what?
Asking like a noob I know :)
 
The Colonia area is also inhabited, with a lot of stations and populated systems. It's about 22000 LY from Sol.

Other than that, there are some lone stations scattered here and there, usually near a nebula or something. There's a few located between the bubble and Colonia, for example.

The rest of space is uninhabited, and with over 4 billion star systems, that's a lot of space!
 
The Colonia area is also inhabited, with a lot of stations and populated systems. It's about 22000 LY from Sol.

Other than that, there are some lone stations scattered here and there, usually near a nebula or something. There's a few located between the bubble and Colonia, for example.

The rest of space is uninhabited, and with over 4 billion star systems, that's a lot of space!

well that's a shame, now I know what I miss in this game, maybe some real visible expansion of the inhabited systems, new stations being set up in a wider area, maybe some first contact-like encounters with humanoid aliens...
 
well that's a shame, now I know what I miss in this game, maybe some real visible expansion of the inhabited systems, new stations being set up in a wider area, maybe some first contact-like encounters with humanoid aliens...

This does exist. Sort of. Colonia has been mentioned. There are lone stations along the route to Colonia. The community (CG) built a station at Sag A* last year (search for Explorers Anchorage). There are stations out in the Witch Head nebula, pretty much in direct conflict with Thargoids. Expansion into the Pleiades region was in response to the discovery of alien presence and is rife with Thargoid conflict. There are Guardian ruins to explore, but no stations too near that region. Now there are FCs everywhere.
 
well that's a shame, now I know what I miss in this game, maybe some real visible expansion of the inhabited systems, new stations being set up in a wider area, maybe some first contact-like encounters with humanoid aliens...
... you mean exactly what's going on right now? :ROFLMAO:
To be fair, the expansion is very slow, but during the six years 3300 to 3306, we've seen the colonization of colonia, the pleiades nebula and several frontier worlds. But the big colonization pushes requires outdoor worlds, and unless you're in great luck that means terraforming, and that takes a lot of time. And humanoid aliens? Check.
 
well that's a shame, now I know what I miss in this game, maybe some real visible expansion of the inhabited systems, new stations being set up in a wider area, maybe some first contact-like encounters with humanoid aliens...
The ED galaxy progresses in real time. Better to adjust to that now rather than carrying round incompatible expectations.
 
... you mean exactly what's going on right now? :ROFLMAO:
To be fair, the expansion is very slow, but during the six years 3300 to 3306, we've seen the colonization of colonia, the pleiades nebula and several frontier worlds. But the big colonization pushes requires outdoor worlds, and unless you're in great luck that means terraforming, and that takes a lot of time. And humanoid aliens? Check.
what about station building? no need for a terraformable planet...or am I wrong? :)
 
... you mean exactly what's going on right now? :ROFLMAO:
To be fair, the expansion is very slow, but during the six years 3300 to 3306, we've seen the colonization of colonia, the pleiades nebula and several frontier worlds. But the big colonization pushes requires outdoor worlds, and unless you're in great luck that means terraforming, and that takes a lot of time. And humanoid aliens? Check.
Colonisation also needs colonists (in large numbers). 😀

Colonia got bolstered by all the people getting the heck outta dodge due to the conflict with the Thargoids.

The Pleiades and Witchhead had major commercial and military factors, plus a propaganda campaign factored strongly into the latter as well.

So the pool of potential colonists for more arbitrary colonisation efforts is probably pretty low at the moment.
 
what about station building? no need for a terraformable planet...or am I wrong? :)
No need for a terroformable planets! But even the largest systems without outdoor worlds only reach a few million in population. Systems with outdoor worlds easily reach billions! In our world, supporting a presence in space such as on the ISS is brutally expensive. In the world of Elite, not so much. But I imagine, still a lot more expensive than supporting a population living under a blue sky with breathable air and a human-compatible biosphere where food can be grown in conventional agriculture rather than hydroponics.

People would have to take notice of this if the economy in this game worked as it should, because production/consumption scales with population size. But this is a separate discussion.
 
That's why wars start and end in 2 weeks. Systems change hands at pulsar speeds. :p
True. 😂😂😂

Better off starting from the general principle in terms of general expectations though! 😀

(Besides, with a little bit of ingenuity, I’m sure we can come up for an explanation for what’s going on with the wars! 😀)
 
Hello folks, I've been out to about 800 LY from the starting position system, at about 200 LY I saw the last space station, and from there space is EMPTY, no living or mechanical soul out there. Is the inner orion spur the only inhabited sector in the whole ED galaxy or what?

Yes.

You will often hear people talk about "the bubble". They're not talking about the Bubble Nebula, they're talking about the relatively small region of space within which the vast bulk of humanity lives. 20,000 star systems, 7 trillion people, all living within about 200 LY from Sol. There are a few outposts established within the last 5 years, but apart from those, there are very few outposts outside of the Bubble.

If you want a "lore explanation" for why human space is so tiny: the Frame Shift Drive that allows virtually instant travel between star systems was not invented until very recently, like the 3290s or something. Prior to this, interstellar travel required a "hyperdrive". Hyperdrives were much slower and less reliable than the FSD. It took a whole week to travel a single maximum-range jump; the fastest ships could do maybe 32 LY per week? On arrival at the destination, the hyperdrive also dumped you 10 AU away from the star, rather than literally right next to the star; that's roughly 5000 Ls away. No Supercruising back then (Supercruise uses the FSD), so if you wanted to refuel to make the next jump, you had to spend another week accelerating and decelerating through normal space to the star to refuel, before making the next jump. So it's really 32 LY every two weeks. Finally, hyperdrives were cantankerous things that tended to explode and leave you stranded if you didn't do regular maintenace (at least once a year).

The upshot of all this was that it was physically impossible for a lone unsupported starship to travel more than 1000 LY from civilizaiton, as it took 6 months to get out that far, and six months to get back again before your hyperdrive died.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the first Elite wasn't it possible to jump anywhere in one go? I was a bit young so I may be wrong.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the first Elite wasn't it possible to jump anywhere in one go? I was a bit young so I may be wrong.

Nope, sorry, that's wrong. In original Elite, your Cobra III (the only ship you were allowed to fly), you had a max range of 7 LY. I can't remember how big the galaxies were, probably a square around 256 LY per side? 7 LY didn't take you very far across the galaxy, at any rate. You could buy an Intergalactic Drive, which jumped you to a fixed location in the next galaxy in the Loop of eight galaxies.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the first Elite wasn't it possible to jump anywhere in one go? I was a bit young so I may be wrong.

You can always download the original for free from Frontierstore.net - it contains a BBC B emulator.

(Where you can eventually buy a galactic hyperdrive to jump to one of the other 7 galaxies in the game.)
 
Nope, sorry, that's wrong. In original Elite, your Cobra III (the only ship you were allowed to fly), you had a max range of 7 LY. I can't remember how big the galaxies were, probably a square around 256 LY per side? 7 LY didn't take you very far across the galaxy, at any rate. You could buy an Intergalactic Drive, which jumped you to a fixed location in the next galaxy in the Loop of eight galaxies.
You can always download the original for free from Frontierstore.net - it contains a BBC B emulator.

(Where you can eventually buy a galactic hyperdrive to jump to one of the other 7 galaxies in the game.)
I have a dubious memory that the intergalactic drive was a one shot device, but I am probably conflating it with the energy bomb.
 
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