Engineering is a grind

[Bob Lighthouse]

It's only a grind because the grade 5 components/materials for engineering are supidly hard to get

duh I know, I need 50 exquisite focus crystals and the reward is 5 (YES 5) for flying 20k+ light years, or 3 exquisite focus crystals for delivering 5k biowaste. Ugh.

i popped in on patch day to see if this had been rectified, as there had been mentions of these materials being made a little easier to get your hands on. No it hadn't.

FD could do with adding those rewards to less ridiculous missions.

if I could engineer new ships without being forced to ONLY play ED, I might actually buy new ships and play the game again

No, you are just not using the ideal ways to get mats.

20Klys?

LOL.

Try 2 jumps in a Python.

 

[Clanky Munge]

No, you are just not using the ideal ways to get mats.

20Klys?

LOL.

Try 2 jumps in a Python.

well how helpful.
you are so amazingly clever, I wish I was just like you

my point is that as a combat pilot or passenger pilot, your rewards are gimped.
if I have to buy a certain ship to engineer my fleet, as the only decent rewards are for trucking biowaste, then it's a grind to me as I hate trading.

 

[Cupsuki]

well how helpful.
you are so amazingly clever, I wish I was just like you

my point is that as a combat pilot or passenger pilot, your rewards are gimped.
if I have to buy a certain ship to engineer my fleet, as the only decent rewards are for trucking biowaste, then it's a grind to me as I hate trading.

You don’t need to buy another ship, you can do anything on any ship. It will just make it faster or slower and I’m sorry but if you’re not willing to change your methods in the slightest then the only one to blame here it’s you. This is coming from a combat pilot btw, I have found plenty of materials either out in the wild or doing combat focused missions, all it takes is putting a bit of thought in the way you do stuff.

 

[Clanky Munge]

Whether the game is or isn't a grind is subjective.

i don't like the mechanic that rewards the most, there for me lies the grind

 

[Braandlin]

I would slap you into next week for calling me a liar in person.



D is the only given, and that much is self evident.

You seem to be confused by the concept of multiple choice.
Clearly D applies to you. so my initial statement is entirely correct.

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

You seem to be confused by the concept of multiple choice.
Clearly D applies to you. so my initial statement is entirely correct.

I didn't say you were wrong.
Read it again.
You are the confused one.

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

well how helpful.
you are so amazingly clever, I wish I was just like you

my point is that as a combat pilot or passenger pilot, your rewards are gimped.
if I have to buy a certain ship to engineer my fleet, as the only decent rewards are for trucking biowaste, then it's a grind to me as I hate trading.

Ftr, I am good looking too!
If you want help, it helps if you don't assert non-true things, then get smarmy when they are corrected.
Correcting your misconceptions is very helpful.
Perhaps try
"Gee, really?
How?
Where?"

That out of the way, passenger transport is consistently the highest paying career path that I know of.
It is often touted as the meta get rich quick scheme.
A cursory google search will confirm this.
It's also an easy way to get high level mats.
Don't go to Colonia to do that, lol...


I agree that combat should pay more, relatively, but it's still easy to make multiple millions in an hour.
Just build your ships well and do assassination missions.

PVP combat is the real credit sink.

 

[Clanky Munge]

Smarmy was saying "2 jumps Python lolz"

i know how to make money and mats, I've been playing a very long time.

As previously stated the grind is subjective, what I find tedious you may not.

you know, in 2015 when this forum started, there were very few knowitalls, pretty much everyone went out of their way to help others. It's a shame that's been lost is all I'm sayin.

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

Smarmy was saying "2 jumps Python lolz"

i know how to make money and mats, I've been playing a very long time.

As previously stated the grind is subjective, what I find tedious you may not.

feel free continue flaming, your opinion will be disregarded

It's not flaming or opinion.
You can easily make tens of millions in an hour doing passenger missions and you don't need to travel 20Klys to get mats.
That's patently absurd.
You've inflated the distance needed to get mats doing passenger missions, the way many people do it, by over 300x.

LOL is the appropriate response.

 

[Clanky Munge]

Dude, I've been signed up to this forum since 2015, have a fully engineered fleet of over 20 ships and 600m credits. you really don't need to give advice, you only started posting a year ago.

when I signed in after the update, all high end material rewards were for 20k + trips, as I hate exploring I didn't bother to check every system, I'm not massively fussed about picking the game up again, as I would have to grind out the mats for the new ships.

that being said I actually enjoy the scanner, and after doing the research the best way to get high end mats is through wing delivery missions. So I may well pick up the game again and choose to start the grind again.

funny thing is it took over 20k kills for me to slow up on the combat grind, because I enjoy it, it's not a grind for me

 

[Clanky Munge]

You don’t need to buy another ship, you can do anything on any ship. It will just make it faster or slower and I’m sorry but if you’re not willing to change your methods in the slightest then the only one to blame here it’s you. This is coming from a combat pilot btw, I have found plenty of materials either out in the wild or doing combat focused missions, all it takes is putting a bit of thought in the way you do stuff.

when you have spent over a 1000 hours in the game, you really don't want to be doing the things you find boring.

i already have loads of engineered ships, if I wanted new ones, I would grind mats out again, but getting the grade 5 mats has become somewhat of a chore. Ok?

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

Dude, I've been signed up to this forum since 2015, have a fully engineered fleet of over 20 ships and 600m credits. you really don't need to give advice, you only started posting a year ago.

when I signed in after the update, all high end material rewards were for 20k + trips, as I hate exploring I didn't bother to check every system, I'm not massively fussed about picking the game up again, as I would have to grind out the mats for the new ships.

that being said I actually enjoy the scanner, and after doing the research the best way to get high end mats is through wing delivery missions. So I may well pick up the game again and choose to start the grind again.

funny thing is it took over 20k kills for me to slow up on the combat grind, because I enjoy it, it's not a grind for me

Lol, ok pauper.

Let's just review what I responded to:

It's only a grind because the grade 5 components/materials for engineering are supidly hard to get

duh I know, I need 50 exquisite focus crystals and the reward is 5 (YES 5) for flying 20k+ light years, or 3 exquisite focus crystals for delivering 5k biowaste. Ugh.

Clearly you do need the advice and I might as well give it.

You don't need to do either of those things.
You can get the same reward, in stack-able fashion, for flying 60ly.
So maybe 6 missions @ 5 Ea for 30 G5 mats, in two jumps.
You'll even make a few million doing it.

Ftr I have ~ 30 engineered ships just on my main account, and just shy of 3 billion in liquid credits, not to mention the Anaconda and two FDS full of engineered modules, because my storage is too full.
My alt account that I started around Thanksgiving already has most of the main engineers unlocked and a mostly engineered Python, Krait MkII and Phantom.

So it seems I am much more efficient than you.

 

[Clanky Munge]

Lol, ok pauper.

Let's just review what I responded to:


Clearly you do need the advice and I might as well give it.

You don't need to do either of those things.
You can get the same reward, in stack-able fashion, for flying 60ly.
So maybe 6 missions @ 5 Ea for 30 G5 mats, in two jumps.
You'll even make a few million doing it.

Ftr I have ~ 30 engineered ships just on my main account, and just shy of 3 billion in liquid credits, not to mention the Anaconda and two FDS full of engineered modules, because my storage is too full.
My alt account that I started around Thanksgiving already has most of the main engineers unlocked and a mostly engineered Python, Krait MkII and Phantom.

So it seems I am much more efficient than you.

Yeah, your so efficient, you've stopped playing the game to troll the forum lol,

i have plenty of friends that spent so much time, like you, amassing billions, they burned themselves out rather quickly.

i posted in a thread called engineering is a grind, a sentiment I agree with, and you've acted like a spoiled child in retaliation to my post.

it seems to me I'm not the only one not playing ED, when I was playing I had no time to post in the forum, much less get all gloaty about how wonderful I am

I'm surprised anyone bothers to even play this game any more, given how utterly incredible you are, if you were English you would be called Sir Bob because you are so amazing.

your advice sucks though btw, with a wing delivery and 3 friends, you can make far more in terms of rewards and faster, since passenger missions were nerfed MANY patches ago, in terms of grade 5 mats and monetary rewards, which incidentally, was applied because players were exploiting mechanics to amass a ridiculous amount of credits to easily. Well done you again.

wing delivery is the only sensible option, after spending some time looking through the boards that seemed pretty obvious

why would you even be grinding mats if you have all the ships, fully engineered and no space in your module storage

 

[Clifra Jones]

Those that quote they can fully engineer their ships in ony a few hours are
a) lying
b) only applying a small amount of engineering
c) already have the materials
d) already have all the engineers unlocked
e) all of the above

As to the idea of engineering being a grind - I disagree. YOU are CHOOSING to try and run through it as fast as possible. YOU are CHOOSING to max out the engineering changes you can make.

The only person making this a grind is YOU.

No, I engineered my new Anaconda in a few hours. If you have the Mats and Data and know where to trade for what you need and if you need Raw materials and don't mind a few minutes shooting rocks on a planet you can do it. Know what you need to trade. Tag the appropriate blue prints. I use the same things of most of my ships, Beams, Multi-cannons, Frags, PAs and rails so I keep those tagged. You don't need to search for hours for G5 mats just gather enough lower mats that you can trade up. I tend to carry a collector limpet controller with me unless I am doing full out trading (which is rare as I find it boring and unprofitable, at least for me) so when ever I get into a fight I collect that trash from the ship I just blew up. In my normal game play I pick up EVERYTHING, I visit signal sources and gather whatever is there. I do skimmer missions and while looking for skimmers at POIs I gather as much raw materials as I can.

The only thing you can't do at any station/base is outfit experimental effects and those trips are not really that much of a grind.

Engineering is far less of a grind than it was when it first cam out.

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

Yeah, your so efficient, you've stopped playing the game to troll the forum lol,

i have plenty of friends that spent so much time, like you, amassing billions, they burned themselves out rather quickly.

i posted in a thread called engineering is a grind, a sentiment I agree with, and you've acted like a spoiled child in retaliation to my post.

it seems to me I'm not the only one not playing ED, when I was playing I had no time to post in the forum, much less get all gloaty about how wonderful I am

I'm surprised anyone bothers to even play this game any more, given how utterly incredible you are, if you were English you would be called Sir Bob because you are so amazing.

your advice sucks though btw, with a wing delivery and 3 friends, you can make far more in terms of rewards and faster, since passenger missions were nerfed MANY patches ago, in terms of grade 5 mats and monetary rewards, which incidentally, was applied because players were exploiting mechanics to amass a ridiculous amount of credits to easily. Well done you again.

wing delivery is the only sensible option, after spending some time looking through the boards that seemed pretty obvious

why would you even be grinding mats if you have all the ships, fully engineered and no space in your module storage

You're just making up things now, and it's not even consistent.
Why would I start a brand new account just a few weeks ago, if I'm burnt out?

The only thing keeping me from playing right this second is the new crash issue.

I'm grinding mats because I'm far from burnt out and want to try different loadouts.
That's why I buy storage ships.

I also have an entirely new Cmdr, so I'm engineering another fleet from scratch there.

There are lots of efficient people out there.
It's not just me.
I learned from others.

A rising tide lifts all ships Cmdr!

 

[Cmdr Nemo]

No, I engineered my new Anaconda in a few hours. If you have the Mats and Data and know where to trade for what you need and if you need Raw materials and don't mind a few minutes shooting rocks on a planet you can do it. Know what you need to trade. Tag the appropriate blue prints. I use the same things of most of my ships, Beams, Multi-cannons, Frags, PAs and rails so I keep those tagged. You don't need to search for hours for G5 mats just gather enough lower mats that you can trade up. I tend to carry a collector limpet controller with me unless I am doing full out trading (which is rare as I find it boring and unprofitable, at least for me) so when ever I get into a fight I collect that trash from the ship I just blew up. In my normal game play I pick up EVERYTHING, I visit signal sources and gather whatever is there. I do skimmer missions and while looking for skimmers at POIs I gather as much raw materials as I can.

The only thing you can't do at any station/base is outfit experimental effects and those trips are not really that much of a grind.

Engineering is far less of a grind than it was when it first cam out.

To be fair, he did state in part, one must have the materials first.

 

[Clifra Jones]

To be fair, he did state in part, one must have the materials first.

But that is just plain obvious! You can deliberately grind for materials and yes that might feel like a grind, well because it is, but oit is much easier then it was before. he started out his comment by calling people liars and that is just not true as I have done it. I have not gone out searching for G5 data is a long time. I just collect a bunch of useless data and trade up.

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

But that is just plain obvious! You can deliberately grind for materials and yes that might feel like a grind, well because it is, but oit is much easier then it was before. he started out his comment by calling people liars and that is just not true as I have done it. I have not gone out searching for G5 data is a long time. I just collect a bunch of useless data and trade up.

Exactly, no one is suggesting otherwise in the first place.
That was my point of contention.

Now if people were actually saying they could do it from a new account there would be a point, but I've yet to see anyone say that.

 

[Cmdr Nemo]

Hey monitor's, getting out of hand, go ahead close it.

 

[Braandlin]

But that is just plain obvious! You can deliberately grind for materials and yes that might feel like a grind, well because it is, but oit is much easier then it was before. he started out his comment by calling people liars and that is just not true as I have done it. I have not gone out searching for G5 data is a long time. I just collect a bunch of useless data and trade up.

I haven't called ANYONE here a liar.

I explicitly said that if someone is telling the op that they have engineered their ship in 'just a few hours' then they are either lying or they already have a number of assets in place. those assets being a mix of ready gathered materials, and unlocked engineers.

As everyone who has commented on my post to date has admitted that they had unlocked engineers and materials gathered already then clearly that falls within the options i listed.