I might try to create Building Piece Blueprints today to make it easier to create those Buildings. I'm currently building a Wildpark anyways
European Pack
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Not anywhere except in North America, really.
But they are in dang near every zoo in the U.S. Can't speak outside of that, but I would venture to guess they're extremely common all across the Americas
Exactly this.
Yeah, but in terms of this community, a huge section of which is European (moreso than most online communities, I think) and a not-insignificant portion of which is from Australasia and Asia, the cougar doesn't have nearly the significance that Doran is suggesting it does. I agree that the cougar is a likely candidate for North America, as it is an iconic American species, I just disagree that it's globally important.
Of course, on the flipside, the lynx also doesn't have the same significance as lions or tigers, but at least with lynxes there are species in North America, too (bobcat, Canadian lynx). For our South American users, I think the cougar would be considerably popular, but not nearly as much as the jaguar, or smaller cats such as the ocelot and margay.
As a side personal subjective opinion, I think it could also be explained because any of the 2 European lynxes are cooler than any of the 2 American lynxes, so it makes sense that they prefer cougar. As a big lynx, Eurasian > Canadian,and in the small lynx competition Iberian > Bobcat.
Its also a sideeffect of the european fauna only having a handful of really iconic species, so thouse that are are even more so.
Lets be honest, the red deer is very cool, beautiful and one of if Not the most imposing deer species, but if they would be living in africa they would just be another species of ungulant.
But that doesnt take away from the animal, but anhances them, especally as european wildlife is quite the mean and though bunch.
Europe is by far the continent most dominated by us humans and also for the longest time.
Any animal living here needed to directly compete with us, adapt to us and find a way to keep up with a radically changing world.
Ofcourse thats Not the only factor for why they are so resilient in the first place, but we still have red giant deer (thouse guys can reach the size of a medium sized horse), black beasts that are able to fight us 1vs1 and will if provocated, a Mix of very adaptable smal carnivores from all famillies and more.
Its a in comparison rather small amount of animals there are rather few/boring choices, which is also why its the dlc where i feel lile they can Do the keast wrong.
A pack of chamois, wildboar, european polecat and a marten might Not be what we are expecting, but i doubt that there would be much distain towards it, as every species is in its own way a mayor species and a great pick.
There are Not really alot of obvious misstep, as allmost every species has a point, which makes them a reasonable baseline inclusion
Lets be honest, the red deer is very cool, beautiful and one of if Not the most imposing deer species, but if they would be living in africa they would just be another species of ungulant.
But that doesnt take away from the animal, but anhances them, especally as european wildlife is quite the mean and though bunch.
Europe is by far the continent most dominated by us humans and also for the longest time.
Any animal living here needed to directly compete with us, adapt to us and find a way to keep up with a radically changing world.
Ofcourse thats Not the only factor for why they are so resilient in the first place, but we still have red giant deer (thouse guys can reach the size of a medium sized horse), black beasts that are able to fight us 1vs1 and will if provocated, a Mix of very adaptable smal carnivores from all famillies and more.
Its a in comparison rather small amount of animals there are rather few/boring choices, which is also why its the dlc where i feel lile they can Do the keast wrong.
A pack of chamois, wildboar, european polecat and a marten might Not be what we are expecting, but i doubt that there would be much distain towards it, as every species is in its own way a mayor species and a great pick.
There are Not really alot of obvious misstep, as allmost every species has a point, which makes them a reasonable baseline inclusion
I love this forum. You learn something new every day. The old Atlas Mountains must’ve been cool. Europe and Africa mixed. Brown bears, lions, leopards, deer. Reminds me of pliestoscene times
It's really a cool Animal which once almost went extinct but I agree that it looks too similar to the American Bison. There are so many other awesome European Animals which are more unique
I agree in terms of "do we really need it", but as Urufu says I understand why people want it.
If I was running the Frontier show I'd add a free "reskin" animal to each major update themed around the upcoming DLC. So it would have been Arctic wolf for the first one (with something else in its place in the actual DLC), maybe the American flamingo for South America, Lace monitor for Australia, Nile crocodile for the Aquatic Pack, Sumatran tiger for Southeast Asia, and something like the Masai giraffe for Africa, then the European bison for Europe, Mexican wolf for North America, and so on.
Just to add a spot of biodiversity without asking people to pay for animals they probably wouldn't get excited about.
I'g go with:
- Arctic - Arctic wolf
- SA - Brazilian tapir
- Australia - Dingo (with the Emu in the pack)
- Aquatic - nile crocodile
- SEA - Black crested macaque
- Africa - Red river hog
See, I don't think the macaque, dingo, or hog can be reasonably considered "reskins" to the same extent as the wolf, tapir, and crocodile. All would require far more significant changes to the base models of the species I'm assuming you're going with (wolf, Japanese macaque, warthog).
I actually based the hog on the babirusa, assuming that SEA comes before africa.
And the macaque is definitely an easy reskin. The Dingo may be harder.
I wish they'd done that. To be honest, when I bought PZ before it was released as a pre-order, I kind of hoped that they'd release free simple animals like that every once in a while. I know it's bad to make the comparison... but it's what zoo tycoon also did back in the day. One time sticks out to me when there was an update for a black panther, free for everyone.
Anyway, yes!
- arctic wolf (with an arctic fox in the DLC) for Arctic update
- spectacled bear for SA update
- emu for AUS update
- Nile crocodile for Aqua update
- Malaysian tapir (with a Celebes crested macaque in the DLC) for SEA update (though I do love the Sumatran tiger)
- Massai giraffe for the Africa update
- wisent for the EU update
- coyote for the NA update
Some much needed free biodiversity in the form of reskins. The Malay tapir and arctic wolf were very obvious ones that honestly never should have made it in the DLC, at least as they are now. The arctic wolf for sure, and the Malay tapir really should have gotten its own model for crying out loud.
Wisents, coyotes, massai giraffes and Nile crocodiles are obvious reskins too. Not sure about the emu or spectacled bear, but they would be 'another bear' and 'a smaller ostrich' or 'a boring version of a cassowary' (I don't think they're boring, but I think they were excluded from the AUS DLC in favor of the more colorful cassowary). A SA flamingo and lace monitor would work fine as well.
In any case, the red river hog isn't that close to any other pig we have in the game. I also disagree with the macaque - the face is completely different.
Again, some of those I don't think would be straight "reskins". The word "reskin" doesn't really have a good definition in terms of what we're talking about, but it isn't just "an animal that is kind of similar". The spectacled bear would need a range of new animations compared to any of the other bears as of the SA Pack. Likewise the emu would need a huge overhaul on the ostrich. Even the coyote would be a challenge - they behave completely differently to wolves.
In any case I didn't intend on the thread becoming a conversation about this, I was just throwing a random idea out there.
Yeah, that's why I said I wasn't sure about the emu and spectacled bear. I didn't know coyotes were so very different to the wolves, dingo and dhole already in the game
But I'll take your word for it. It's a great idea! That's why I jumped on the topic
But you're right, there are other threads for that.The dingo, dhole, and wolves all have entirely unique models, animations, sounds, and so on. The Arctic wolf and timber wolf are obviously closer, being the same species.I didn't know coyotes were so very different to the wolves, dingo and dhole already in the game
IMO when discussing "reskins" we should be looking at the most minimal change possible for the new animal. The black-and-white ruffed lemur wouldn't require a massive change on the red ruffed lemur, for example, and the Sumatran tiger would be a size adjustment, reskin, and maybe a couple of unique animations to make it special, but overall they don't differ hugely from other tigers.