Newcomer / Intro EvE-Online newcomer to Elite, needs help.

[Bish8]

Hi guys, i haven't played eve-online in almost a year but that is the only game i have that comes close to a comparison for me.

Does anyone know if Elite will show statistics on the maps i.e. number of ships in space, docked, destroyed, npc's destroyed, systems visits?

Can i put up trade goods for people to haul for me to other stations, set up buy/sell orders?

I have only really tried to play today and sorted out keyboard and mouse bounds so there is a lot i haven't checked or might have missed.

I noticed there isnt any hanger, am i not looking hard enough? Where do i store mods and loot?



I have read the news feed and seen statistics for the system im in but there isn't really what i was hoping for. Anyone from EvE Online would know exactly what i mean here.

 

[JeffRyan]

A lot of the stuff from EVE doesn't translate into Elite: Dangerous because the two games are very different. ED has been called a Han Solo Simulator because that's (so far) just what it is. It's YOU in your spaceship and you get to do what you want with it. There's no real 'large scale' control or crafting, it's just you and your ship.

EVE is a lot more stat based than ED is and lends itself more to min-maxing than ED does. One of the things I found infuriating in my years at EVE was the rock-scissors-paper approach to combat that just doesn't work here.

So this game is less in some ways (no large scale stuff) but more in others (more direct control of your ship) which might not be for everyone. Stick around and drop back if you have any other questions.

This is a bit silly and funny but somes up the difference quite well.



(Not mine and quite old at this point).

 

[Arry]

Hi guys, i haven't played eve-online in almost a year but that is the only game i have that comes close to a comparison for me.

Does anyone know if Elite will show statistics on the maps i.e. number of ships in space, docked, destroyed, npc's destroyed, systems visits?

Can i put up trade goods for people to haul for me to other stations, set up buy/sell orders?

I have only really tried to play today and sorted out keyboard and mouse bounds so there is a lot i haven't checked or might have missed.

I noticed there isnt any hanger, am i not looking hard enough? Where do i store mods and loot?



I have read the news feed and seen statistics for the system im in but there isn't really what i was hoping for. Anyone from EvE Online would know exactly what i mean here.

OK, I use to play EVE, Have a 60mil+sp char there and have not played for a year.

Ships numbers can be found in the station services window, look to the right.
Only scanned ships can be recognised. Also look in the left panel for contacts. There is no history records, from what I understand.

Cargo: What you have on board, is it. No hangers, no storage, only ships, without cargo. No P2P trading, officially. No contracts between P2P, officially.

I just use keyboard, love it, a bit retro or something. Binds are in the pause then options menu.

To store ship parts, but the cheapest ship that has the correct modual size and store that way.

It is all about credits, no loot.

 

[Universal Evil]

Actually there is a small history record in the right hand panel under the first tab(i think) it contain historic of all the kills you've done how many times your ship has blown up how much trading you've done and exploration( how many planets you've Explorer/surface scanned) ect...

 

[Dakron Nova]

Hi Commander welcome to the galaxy

What you ask for does not exist currently, although items such as heatmaps in the galaxy maps have been asked for. There are a number of external tools that you can use for trading etc. I choose not to use them as I like to keep everything in game. I've posted a link from the main forum below which should enable you to search for systems, imports, exports, stations, etc which may give you some of the information you are after.

http://ed-td.space/

In terms of finding other players, its a big galaxy so this can be a problem sometimes, however if you keep your eyes on community goals you can usually find plenty gathering around these places, active goals can be found here https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=187372

All the best.

 

[Mr.Sharku]

I played Eve almost 2 years till my 2.5 Billion Isk Tangu got ambushed by 4 reds as I coming out of a Sec 4 Base.
Reds are not even supposed to get there but then I hear that other's can Warp them in.
Killed my ship, destroyed my Pod and I said (Expletive Deleted) and quit.
This is a lot more fun anyway. :] And with 400 Billion Star systems I don't think ANYONE will ever be able to visit them all.

 

[Mordu]

Former Eve player here as well (played for 4 years). ED is a completely different animal. You really can't compare it. I love Eve because of the social aspect, and I love ED for the cockpit view, dog fighting, and better insurance rates.

 

[Bish8]

I played Eve almost 2 years till my 2.5 Billion Isk Tangu got ambushed by 4 reds as I coming out of a Sec 4 Base.
Reds are not even supposed to get there but then I hear that other's can Warp them in.
Killed my ship, destroyed my Pod and I said (Expletive Deleted) and quit.
This is a lot more fun anyway. :] And with 400 Billion Star systems I don't think ANYONE will ever be able to visit them all.

Remember could take several hours if you travelled from the center of the map to the outer edges in eve, which was truly brutal. What im afraid is i go travelling get bored and want to go back to some where more populated, worse part being i could only be several systems away from one and not know.

OK, I use to play EVE, Have a 60mil+sp char there and have not played for a year.

Ships numbers can be found in the station services window, look to the right.
Only scanned ships can be recognised. Also look in the left panel for contacts. There is no history records, from what I understand.

Cargo: What you have on board, is it. No hangers, no storage, only ships, without cargo. No P2P trading, officially. No contracts between P2P, officially.

I just use keyboard, love it, a bit retro or something. Binds are in the pause then options menu.

To store ship parts, but the cheapest ship that has the correct modual size and store that way.

It is all about credits, no loot.

So i can buy more than one ship?

Actually there is a small history record in the right hand panel under the first tab(i think) it contain historic of all the kills you've done how many times your ship has blown up how much trading you've done and exploration( how many planets you've Explorer/surface scanned) ect...

Wasn't really what i was looking for but nice tip, i didnt know about that.

Hi Commander welcome to the galaxy

What you ask for does not exist currently, although items such as heatmaps in the galaxy maps have been asked for. There are a number of external tools that you can use for trading etc. I choose not to use them as I like to keep everything in game. I've posted a link from the main forum below which should enable you to search for systems, imports, exports, stations, etc which may give you some of the information you are after.

http://ed-td.space/

In terms of finding other players, its a big galaxy so this can be a problem sometimes, however if you keep your eyes on community goals you can usually find plenty gathering around these places, active goals can be found here https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=187372

All the best.

Thanks for the links

Former Eve player here as well (played for 4 years). ED is a completely different animal. You really can't compare it. I love Eve because of the social aspect, and I love ED for the cockpit view, dog fighting, and better insurance rates.

This game could easily have what eve has though.

If this game could add some of il 2 sturmovik G-force affects and plane malfunctions as well...

 

[paulca]

Yes you can own more than one ship. When you buy a new one there is an option to store the current one in the hangar. In "Shipyard" you then have two tabs, "Stored ships" and "Ship locations" so you can keep track of them. Stored ships also get a red waypoint marker in the galaxy map.

No need to store modules. If you buy a jump drive for 2,000,000cr and realise it's the wrong one, you can sell it back for 2,000,000cr. I think the only way to lose money fitting a ship is to sell the stuff at a cheaper station than you bought it... or get it blowed up. Ship hulls you loose 10% of the value, so strip them of modules first or you lose 10% of their value too. (Though Ive never confirmed this).

It will take you more an a few hours to traverse the ED galaxy. 400 billion stars. 75,000ly across edge to edge roughly. Sagitarius A* at the centre of the galaxy will take you a while to reach and there won't be much there. "Civilized space" is a bubble with it's main bulk being in a roughly 100ly radius from the core systems (Sol, Barnard's star etc.). Smaller outposts are scattered beyond this "bubble" out to 300-500ly. Beyond that you are into the abyss.

Coming from Eve as well I found ED refreshingly simple and direct. Combat is up, close, in your face, personal, not playing trump cards with module stacking and spreadsheets.

 

[Patrick_68000]

and better insurance rates.

Normal, ED is more dangerous

 

[Tidal]

Been an eve player since 2004. Elite and Eve are two games set in space and that's where the similarities end. Both are good games but in entirely different ways. Both could benefit from some of the features the other has.

Pretty sure you'll love Elite.

 

[the100thmonkey]

If this game could add some of il 2 sturmovik G-force affects and plane malfunctions as well...

There are a couple of ships where it's possible to exceed designed G force limits, which can damage your ship.

It's also quite possible for modules to malfunction, as you'll no doubt find in combat sooner or later.

At the risk of stressing something too much, this game is not EVE. Do not expect it to be like EVE and you'll be fine. Expect it to be live EVE and it will frustrate you.

 

[Rob_the_Sparky]

It will take you more an a few hours to traverse the ED galaxy. 400 billion stars. 75,000ly across edge to edge roughly. Sagitarius A* at the centre of the galaxy will take you a while to reach and there won't be much there. "Civilized space" is a bubble with it's main bulk being in a roughly 100ly radius from the core systems (Sol, Barnard's star etc.). Smaller outposts are scattered beyond this "bubble" out to 300-500ly. Beyond that you are into the abyss.

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LOL, understatement of the century. You are talking days to weeks to get across the "map" not hours! I've not been out more than a few hundred light years but there are people that spend almost all their time away from the "bubble". The joy of ED is to play it the way you want to.

 

[Djerk Ard]

Does anyone know if Elite will show statistics on the maps i.e. number of ships in space, docked, destroyed, npc's destroyed, systems visits?

Can i put up trade goods for people to haul for me to other stations, set up buy/sell orders?

Welcome Commander,

Most of your questions have already been answered here - the mods and loot storage bit may be changing in the future, but not any time soon.

With regard to statistics, there have been requests to show them on the maps but the easiest way currently to see traffic is in the system info you referred to - this will show the number of player ships that passed through, not NPC numbers. Kill numbers and so on are never shown - the GalNet Weekly Security Digest refers only to systems in Lockdown, and while they may be related to kill numbers other factors will probably be playing a larger factor.

Unfortunately the trade system is nowhere near as detailed and involved as Eve's - crafting currently (in Horizons) is solely for your own ship's equipment, cannot be sold and is limited to the session you are playing (i.e. "craft" a fuel for your buggy with 50% fuel efficiency and it'll be forgotten about when you next log in). It would be nice if in the future it was possible to sell certain elements found on planets to other players but doubt this will happen any time soon.

Good luck out there! (Also, highly recommend a cheap HOTAS joystick!)

 

[Hellhawk666]

Been an eve player since 2004. Elite and Eve are two games set in space and that's where the similarities end. Both are good games but in entirely different ways. Both could benefit from some of the features the other has.

The wisest words I've read on the forum all day.