[Event/Experiment] Call to supporters of independent systems/Alliance

I'll make a longer post later, but I have been thinking about the difficulties the players are having influencing the game and getting systems to undergo major changes in faction control. In short I believe we are going about it the wrong way. Basically we need more of an organized and concentrated effort. Doing missions and not trading is not enough. I'll make a new thread about it tonight to get some opinions. We are on the right track just need a better plan.
 
For three consecutive days i have been working in Teithay nav beacon

a few things i had noticed with each session are

day one i noticed there was hardly any ships affiliated with Silver Vision LTD and little to no combat was seen against each faction

day two i saw a major increase in ships affiliated with silver vision LTD and would see them engaging against other factions mainly focusing against Tiethay Family on several occasions the Silver Vision LTD faction would pop out of no were and help engage targets i was already engaging

day three the Silver vision LTD seem to have decreased in numbers in the area they must be taking a break from all the confrontation what i did notice was an increase of fighting between the Tiethay Family and the new Tiethay League the other two factions were pretty non existent in the area i also noticed a lot more trade ships from the Silver Vision LTD in the area

It would be good to see if any one else who had been working in the Tiethay nav beacon had seen any similar results

for me it seems that what ever we were doing in Tiethay could be working and we were making an impact

or the increase in confrontation between Silver Vision LTD and Tiethay family was just a one off and i had just jumped into a lucky instance < just guesing here

Hey Scrumpy, I can confirm I have seen the exact same changes. Multiple times I was not in the same instance as you and also witnessed these changes. I also came across several USS with the same factions fighting. I too was wondering why Silver Vision fighters seem to have largely disappeared late Sunday onwards.

Sadly, it seems system changes were locked galaxy wide till yesterday. :(
 
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As per my testing which was also independently confirmed by CMDR Mephane here, please refrain from cashing in any Alliance bounties in independent systems or Fed controlled ones regardless if the local system faction has allegiance to Alliance (e.g. Rominger Dock at 78 Ursae Majoris).

This will increase your Federation and all Fed-allied system faction(s) reputation, while your Alliance rep will not increase, nor will the influence of the local Alliance system faction.

Instead, use neighbouring Alliance systems for cashing in bounties which will increase your Alliance rep and reputation with all system faction(s) aligned with the Alliance.
 
remember to accept war missions (e.g. "Feeding the fuel of war") that are available right now because our guys are at "civil war critical" state. You get get these missions at any station in UM78 and sometimes from other systems leading to UM78. These will double the available missions to help the Alliance in UM78.

Afair you need non-lethal weapons, reactive armor and agri-medicine for these missions. You can obtain them in Ailoth or LTT 14019 (nearby HiTech worlds).

But don't do these missions for the bad guys (UM78 Equality and such)
 
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It seems we're not the only ones finding it difficult to exert our influence.
Apparently the Lugh initiative is having a lot problems as well: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=83120

At least the devs have taken notice:
I don't have anyone in the office I can check the status of this with, but when we're back in the new year I'll get into it.

Michael

I'm thinking of going on a long exploration run, and coming back to 78UM later once the background sim stuff gets tightened up a bit.
 
So, what's everyones 78UM federation bounties up to? :D

I've been loitering outside 78UM Equality stations and ambushing their transports, but damn if security isn't johnny on the spot. Usually a Fed Viper and a couple eagles come chasing after you, good fun haha.

Federation has around 93k bounty on my head. I quite frequently roam in 78 ursae majoris, but they still didnt try to collect it. Those lazy Fed guys..
 
remember to accept war missions (e.g. "Feeding the fuel of war") that are available right now because our guys are at "civil war critical" state. You get get these missions at any station in UM78 and sometimes from other systems leading to UM78. These will double the available missions to help the Alliance in UM78.

Afair you need non-lethal weapons, reactive armor and agri-medicine for these missions. You can obtain them in Ailoth or LTT 14019 (nearby HiTech worlds).

But don't do these missions for the bad guys (UM78 Equality and such)

As for NonLetWea, Rea Arm and AgrMed you can (cheaply) buy them in Khernidjal system in first starport (West sth). One jump from most of Alioth sector systems. And West sth station is very close from nav point (you can't say it about LTT 14019 which has 150000ls :)
 
As per my testing which was also independently confirmed by CMDR Mephane here, please refrain from cashing in any Alliance bounties in independent systems or Fed controlled ones regardless if the local system faction has allegiance to Alliance (e.g. Rominger Dock at 78 Ursae Majoris).

This will increase your Federation and all Fed-allied system faction(s) reputation, while your Alliance rep will not increase, nor will the influence of the local Alliance system faction.

Instead, use neighbouring Alliance systems for cashing in bounties which will increase your Alliance rep and reputation with all system faction(s) aligned with the Alliance.

This is extremly important. To summarize:
1. It's not the station faction that matters but whole star system one.
2. major faction can change local faction and vice versa.
 
did a kill mission for allioth independents, and now i have a alliance bounty on me.... :(


EDIT: ah, i can just buy it off, was my first bounty, i did not know that. :)
 
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LHS 2651 is 20LY from 78UM and is a high tech Alliance system, you can find most of those goodies there

Ailoth (if you already got access) and LTT with some five numbers are even closer to UM78. You can travel to both of them in a single jump even with shi_tty FSDs. All those war missions with lon-lethal weapons, reactive armor....get 10 missions and head for the high tech system.
 
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LTT is 150000 ly away, LHS 2651 is 1000ly away the station and is just 2 heaps about (15 sec extra).

But yes, if you have access to Alioth and the goods are there better go to Alioth and check if there are missions for 78UM.

P.S: getting kill authority missions from Alioth ind in 78UM now, looks goods
 
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Anyone had this happened to them ?

I'm friendly with Alioth Independents ( ships are green to me ) but while doing a cargo run for them to Landis Freeport a Lone Sidey pulled me out of FSD & attacked me ?

Doesn't he know i'm on his side ?? anyway i decided to boost away from him & engage my FSD. I did think of taking him out but the mission rep was more important
 
Anyone had this happened to them ?

I'm friendly with Alioth Independents ( ships are green to me ) but while doing a cargo run for them to Landis Freeport a Lone Sidey pulled me out of FSD & attacked me ?

Doesn't he know i'm on his side ?? anyway i decided to boost away from him & engage my FSD. I did think of taking him out but the mission rep was more important

Factions are not a coherent whole, there are archetypes in each faction and depending on the faction type some archetypes are more frequent than others. This includes bounty hunters or pirates that will attack you. It happens even between NPC's of the same faction ;)

Even if they engage don't retaliate and run away as killing those will hurt the faction.
 
Another alternative for Nonlethal Weps is LHS 2637, Perez Ring is close to the star and has all the weapon types including reactive armour, also HE Suits, and other high tech goodies, and it's a refinery economy too. Try not to drive the prices up too far please.:D
 
Well nice one Cmdr knac, is that your game with this thread? trying to get people to come out so you can shoot them down as they try grind some alliance rep.

Thankyou for disposing of my stock sidewinder in your fully kitted out cobra before I could reply to you " whats your bizzness" hail, not everyone has the hang of the chat function yet to reply within 10 seconds.
 
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Well nice one Cmdr knac, is that your game with this thread? trying to get people to come out so you can shoot them down as they try grind some alliance rep.

Thankyou for disposing of my stock sidewinder in your fully kitted out cobra before I could reply to you " whats your bizzness" hail, not everyone has the hang of the chat function yet to reply within 10 seconds.

Sorry about that but I waited a minute for a reply, and I was on kill missions for Alioth ind on that nav beacon and wanted. not taking the chance, in that same beacon i almost get killed by someone while getting attacked by npcs.

Btw you someone who is wanted and hostile in that sytem what are you expecting?

p.s: my cobra is class C mostly, hardly kitted :D
 
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Wanted? Odd, can't see how unless another little gem in this game I've missed. Maybe the last in dependant ship I shot made me appear hostile or maybe I clipped another ship, I dunno.

I'm not wanted by any faction, was doing 2 pirate kill missions in whatever system it was we met, had only recently picked them up from erzheger?? Nearby.
 
Wanted? Odd, can't see how unless another little gem in this game I've missed. Maybe the last in dependant ship I shot made me appear hostile or maybe I clipped another ship, I dunno.

I'm not wanted by any faction, was doing 2 pirate kill missions in whatever system it was we met, had only recently picked them up from erzheger?? Nearby.

Not you, me :D wanted in the system with a fat bounty on my head, opportunists may take advantage. Again, sorry, was not personal.

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You can buy fish and algae in LHS 331 or (i believe) He Bo
 
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